Author Topic: Zlatan Ibrahimovic (Read 324269 times)

Kop · « **Reply #160 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:27:54 pm »

Quote from: StevieG26 on July 12, 2006, 04:41:53 pm

Exactly, like Luis.

Not exactly.. Garcias effort is the difference but its a big one.

Darren G · « **Reply #161 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:35:12 pm »

Quote from: Jens from Sweden on July 12, 2006, 05:27:20 pm

Yes he may be shite at this very moment. But the thing is that Rafa can transform him into a goalscoring machine... thats the way he likes it - Rafa doesnt want the finished product. plus he will come cheap.

What are you basing that assumption on exactly?

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #162 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:36:09 pm »

Quote from: Darren G on July 12, 2006, 05:35:12 pm

What are you basing that assumption on exactly?

Basing on the assumption that Kuyt can also be turned into so and so?

TheRedBull · « **Reply #163 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:36:09 pm »

Quote from: Jens from Sweden on July 12, 2006, 05:27:20 pm

plus he will come cheap.

With every big after him, he won't come cheap even he can move on free transfer.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #164 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:37:14 pm »

Quote from: TheRedBull on July 12, 2006, 05:36:09 pm

With every big after him, he won't come cheap even he can move on free transfer.

By the way, how much do they pay for a free transfer?

TheRedBull · « **Reply #165 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:39:49 pm »

Quote from: Ken-Obi on July 12, 2006, 05:37:14 pm

By the way, how much do they pay for a free transfer?

Free transfer = hell a lot more expensive wage and signing on fees. Is it that hard to understand?

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #166 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:42:57 pm »

More expensive than £12 million plus all the wages and signing on fees?

Jens from Sweden · « **Reply #167 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:46:54 pm »

Quote from: Darren G on July 12, 2006, 05:35:12 pm

What are you basing that assumption on exactly?

Based on:

Rafa is a wizard
Zlatan is talented

Darren G · « **Reply #168 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:49:42 pm »

Quote from: Ken-Obi on July 12, 2006, 05:36:09 pm

Basing on the assumption that Kuyt can also be turned into so and so?

53 goals in his last 69 league appearances and you feel that Kuijt has to be turned into a prolific striker then?

TheRedBull · « **Reply #169 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:50:49 pm »

Quote from: Ken-Obi on July 12, 2006, 05:42:57 pm

More expensive than £12 million plus all the wages and signing on fees?

Yes they are less expensive but most free agent will earn more wages & signing on fees than regular tranfer so it will become almost equal at the end of the contract.

Example :

Regular transfer

12M transfer fees + 2M signing on fees + 60,000 / week on 5yrs (15M) = 29M

Free transfer

4M signing on fees + 90,000 / week on 5 yrs (22.5M) = 26.5M

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #170 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:53:24 pm »

Quote from: TheRedBull on July 12, 2006, 05:50:49 pm

Yes they are less expensive but most free agent will earn more wages & signing on fees than regular tranfer so it will become almost equal at the end of the contract.

Thanks for your explaination but you know that's an assumption.

Quote from: Darren G on July 12, 2006, 05:49:42 pm

53 goals in his last 69 league appearances and you feel that Kuijt has to be turned into a prolific striker then?

Do you know a certain player called Mateja Kezman?

TheRedBull · « **Reply #171 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:55:23 pm »

Quote from: Ken-Obi on July 12, 2006, 05:53:24 pm

Thanks for your explaination but you know that's an assumption.

In Zlatan case, it will be like that cuz there will be a war for his signature.

Jens from Sweden · « **Reply #172 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:57:03 pm »

Any news on Alves?

Darren G · « **Reply #173 on:** July 12, 2006, 05:58:19 pm »

Quote from: Jens from Sweden on July 12, 2006, 05:46:54 pm

Yes he may be shite at this very moment....

Quote from: Jens from Sweden on July 12, 2006, 05:46:54 pm

Rafa is a wizard
Zlatan is talented

Just not quite talented enough to stop playing like shite then.

Darren G · « **Reply #174 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:03:07 pm »

Quote from: Ken-Obi on July 12, 2006, 05:53:24 pm

Thanks for your explaination but you know that's an assumption.
Do you know a certain player called Mateja Kezman?

Yeah, and that Ruud lad that the Mancs bought too. Ronaldo did alright in Holland as well, so better write him off and all. Point is that Kuijt may or may not do well in the Premiership but he does at least have a good scoring record. He does not need to be 'turned into' a goal scorer. Ibrahimovich has never been prolific in that sense, in any league, so expecting Rafa to be able to magically turn him into a goal machine as was suggested is a bit over-optimistic.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #175 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:17:04 pm »

Time to get out of here, me. Have fun people.

FTW · « **Reply #176 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:18:57 pm »

Remember Ibrahimovich coming up with a story just before the World Cup about him never being more unfit.

Blamed the Italian food, actually..also seemed like he was having a bit of a dig at the Juve coaching staff.

Maybe part of the reason he had an indifferent World Cup.

I haven't seen too much of him in Serie A, but alot of class players had a shite World Cup.

TheRedBull · « **Reply #177 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:22:19 pm »

Quote from: Fowlers Original on July 12, 2006, 06:18:57 pm

Remember Ibrahimovich coming up with a story just before the World Cup about him never being more unfit.

Blamed the Italian food, actually..also seemed like he was having a bit of a dig at the Juve coaching staff.

Nah, he just like Pizza and can't stop eating it. That's why he might consider going elsewhere...

Darren G · « **Reply #178 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:26:21 pm »

Quote from: Fowlers Original on July 12, 2006, 06:18:57 pm

Remember Ibrahimovich coming up with a story just before the World Cup about him never being more unfit.

Blamed the Italian food, actually..also seemed like he was having a bit of a dig at the Juve coaching staff.

Maybe part of the reason he had an indifferent World Cup.

I haven't seen too much of him in Serie A, but alot of class players had a shite World Cup.

.....And yet so many people have based their perceptions of players on that tournament alone. Imagine if it was the first time you had seen Stevie, Ronaldinho, Lampard, Ballack etc. average at best, the lot of 'em.....sorry Stevie.

The Infamous_LFC · « **Reply #179 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:46:35 pm »

I would love Zlatan to join us as i have stated in numerous occasion's. He is a top player that would further enhance our reputation as one of the biggest clubs in this planet(sounds better than kings of europe). He has his risks well so does everyone.

I would love him to join or Trez but both are unlikely as they would rather play in sunny spain or stay in italy.

Hope climate chance would get us bigger stars and bring more brazilian's to our league

Jens from Sweden · « **Reply #180 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:50:43 pm »

Quote from: Fowlers Original on July 12, 2006, 06:18:57 pm

Remember Ibrahimovich coming up with a story just before the World Cup about him never being more unfit.

Blamed the Italian food, actually..also seemed like he was having a bit of a dig at the Juve coaching staff.

Yeah he has gained about 10 kilos during his two seasons at Juve. Sounds incredible I know.

Saracen Salcano · « **Reply #181 on:** July 12, 2006, 06:56:20 pm »

is zlatan actually been linked with us ? (like a linked source) or is this thread just one big arguemnt over nothin?

evie · « **Reply #182 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:21:34 pm »

Quote from: Fowlers Original on July 12, 2006, 06:18:57 pm

Remember Ibrahimovich coming up with a story just before the World Cup about him never being more unfit.

Blamed the Italian food, actually..also seemed like he was having a bit of a dig at the Juve coaching staff.

Maybe part of the reason he had an indifferent World Cup.

I haven't seen too much of him in Serie A, but alot of class players had a shite World Cup.

that was a joke

Gnurglan · « **Reply #183 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:27:00 pm »

Quote from: Saracen Salcano on July 12, 2006, 06:56:20 pm

is zlatan actually been linked with us ? (like a linked source) or is this thread just one big arguemnt over nothin?

On

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,855390,00.html

it says Ibrahimovic is very close to signing for Inter. In the last paragraph however it says
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Yesterday there were rumours that placed Zlatan in Liverpool.

According to Guillem Balague, Spanish football pundit and personal friend of the Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez, Ibra is on the club's shortlist.
- Liverpool need a striker. There have been speculations about names from the Spanish league, but there are also players in Juventus and that includes Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet.
- Rafa waits for what will happen to them (relegation) before he tries to get them, says Balague to BBC Radio 5.
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zigackly · « **Reply #184 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:38:15 pm »

Well it's surprising that so many of our Swedish posters rate Zlatan

montse · « **Reply #185 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:42:44 pm »

I thought inter were signing luca toni, and they already have martins, adriano, recoba, cruz, [and probably a few other i forgotten]. that means that they will just about enough eh

Kaizer · « **Reply #186 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:52:44 pm »

If Zlatan signs we dont have to come up wit a song fo him cause he has already got one this summer, its been number 1 in Sweden for a couple of weeks during the summer and it sucks

http://nettv.aftenposten.no/player/player.php?id=835&bandwidth=2159546

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSZgoLSJZo&search=who%60s%20da%20man

TheRedBull · « **Reply #187 on:** July 12, 2006, 07:58:51 pm »

Quote from: montse on July 12, 2006, 07:42:44 pm

I thought inter were signing luca toni, and they already have martins, adriano, recoba, cruz, [and probably a few other i forgotten]. that means that they will just about enough eh

They might sell Adriano to Real Madrid though.

FTW · « **Reply #188 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:10:29 pm »

Quote from: evie on July 12, 2006, 07:21:34 pm

that was a joke

No shit.

Helsinki Red · « **Reply #189 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:24:34 pm »

Quote from: zigackly on July 12, 2006, 07:38:15 pm

Well it's surprising that so many of our Swedish posters rate Zlatan

I Finnish so I should hate everything that comes from Sweden

Zlatan is brilliant player and I'd love to see him at Anfield but I really doubt that it will ever happen. If Juventus gets relegated every team in Europe wants to sign him.

xerxes · « **Reply #190 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:26:04 pm »

Quote from: Jens from Sweden on July 12, 2006, 05:46:54 pm

Based on: Rafa is a wizard Zlatan is talented

Just how good is this Rafa? Can he do anything for me? I'd love to play for Liverpool.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #191 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:40:57 pm »

Quote from: Helsinki Red on July 12, 2006, 08:24:34 pm

I Finnish so I should hate everything that comes from Sweden Zlatan is brilliant player and I'd love to see him at Anfield but I really doubt that it will ever happen. If Juventus gets relegated every team in Europe wants to sign him.

Ibrahimovic is a star, but what he does is not yet as good as his talent (or his ego).

As for him gaining weight in Italy, I remember ZI saying that Juve wanted him to be heavier than he first was when he came to Juve.

smicer07 · « **Reply #192 on:** July 12, 2006, 08:48:17 pm »

Am yet to see him have a good game to be honest.

Saracen Salcano · « **Reply #193 on:** July 12, 2006, 10:06:13 pm »

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Quote from: Gnurglan on July 12, 2006, 07:27:00 pm

On

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,855390,00.html

it says Ibrahimovic is very close to signing for Inter. In the last paragraph however it says
----------------------------------
Yesterday there were rumours that placed Zlatan in Liverpool.

According to Guillem Balague, Spanish football pundit and personal friend of the Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez, Ibra is on the club's shortlist.
- Liverpool need a striker. There have been speculations about names from the Spanish league, but there are also players in Juventus and that includes Zlatan Ibrahimovic and David Trezeguet.
- Rafa waits for what will happen to them (relegation) before he tries to get them, says Balague to BBC Radio 5.
-------------------------------------------

ive come to the conclusion Balague is a shit stirrer!

(ledge really)

Neil D · « **Reply #194 on:** July 12, 2006, 10:07:47 pm »

I thought his touch looked exceptional when he played at Anfield, I was very impressed even though we kept him relatively quiet. If we signed him I would be delighted, he has tremendous talent. I'd rather have his strike partner though...