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The Pyramids
« on: March 30, 2007, 07:32:13 pm »
Everyone knows that pyramids were built by aliens.



That's as plausible as any explanation I've heard so far. The
in-fighting among so-called "Egyptologists" regarding the method
of the pyramids' construction is immense. Everyone's got their
own pet theory that they would likely defend unto death. I've
heard them ALL. Some are just goofy while other seem a bit
more possible in terms of manpower, materials, and logistics.

However, I haven't heard a more conclusive and reasonable
theory as "aliens built 'em". Do you really think that's more
laughable than vast hordes of men working 12 hours a day in
the fucking desert for 20 (more) years, constructing with
immense multi-ton pieces (which may have in fact been made
many miles away, mind) a geometrically meaningful and
dimensionally perfect colossal structure, complete with a large
network of internal passages (some of which have not been
discovered yet), and whose geographical locations line up
directly with the constellations ?

What do you think?

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2007, 07:37:08 pm »
They aren't dimensionally perfect in the first place - one of them has a massive kink in the side where they got half way up and found it was unstable.

If you actually stop and think - what is the most primitive possible shape for a building?.... fucking enormous at the bottom going up to a point. Try holding a handfull of dry sand and running it through your fingers... makes a cone doesn't it? The angle of the pile of sand is called the "angle of repose" and is close to the angle of the sides pf the pyramids.


In other words they look like buildings built using very primitive technology - if they were the other way up and made of plastic.... I might believe they were built by aliens....

By the way that also explains why the aztecs and egyptians both built pyramid shaped buildings when they wanted to go high... both were pre-technology cultures and that was the only shape they could use...

Do you think the medieval cathedrals were built by aliens too - I mean, enormous structures made from huge lumps of stone built over centuries not decades using just hand tools - a bit far fetched don't you think?
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2007, 08:02:13 pm »
Good post.

It also puzzles me how carbon-dating of blocks in the upper reaches of the pyramid suggest they're several hundred years older than those at the bottom. Was the thing built top down?

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2007, 09:20:41 pm »
Good post.

It also puzzles me how carbon-dating of blocks in the upper reaches of the pyramid suggest they're several hundred years older than those at the bottom. Was the thing built top down?

Surely thats consistent with them being built from the bottom up?
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2007, 09:36:42 pm »
would love to visit the Pyramids, the only surviving ancient wonder..

intresting artical on how they were built
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.independent.co.uk%2Fworld%2Fscience_technology%2Farticle2405133.ece

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2007, 10:19:39 pm »
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2007, 10:50:51 pm »
I don't like the pyramids, never been a fan of Birkenhead and the shops in there are crap anyway.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2007, 11:16:26 pm »
Good post.

It also puzzles me how carbon-dating of blocks in the upper reaches of the pyramid suggest they're several hundred years older than those at the bottom. Was the thing built top down?

It's because they wanted the good stones for the top so they chose the smoothest, most weathered bits for the pinnacle.

Wasn't that obvious?

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2007, 11:32:35 pm »
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2007, 11:33:37 pm »
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2007, 12:53:45 am »
I've been into the opened pyramid at Giza - it felt very, very weird.

I've been to Egypt twice (Fully recommend it - amazing place and fantastic people) and have visted many many tombs and temples - and the feeling you get is 'unworldly' and it's strangely humbling - some of these places have been around for 5-8 THOUSAND years.

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2007, 01:07:49 am »
Fantastic place and well worth the visit.
would love to visit the Pyramids, the only surviving ancient wonder..
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2007, 08:46:45 am »
I read abook years ago called 'fingerprints of the gods' or something, it was about this kind of thing. The author was convinced all these ancient monuments such as the pyramids, machu piccu ? , etc, etc, were all either built by aliens or built for aliens.like i said, this was years ago, so my memory of it is quite hazy, it was a very convincing read though.

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Re: The Pyramids
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2007, 10:07:40 am »
Good post.

It also puzzles me how carbon-dating of blocks in the upper reaches of the pyramid suggest they're several hundred years older than those at the bottom. Was the thing built top down?

It just means they used older materials at the top - if you're quarrying somewhere, the stuff you quarry first (at the top) is newer than the stuff at the bottom, surely?

It makes perfect sense really.  In the grand scheme of geology, a couple of hundred years isn't that far apart.

If you made a table out of wood from a tree planted thirty years ago, and mixed it with timber from a tree planted 300 years ago, it would have two ages as well, but the table would still be 'new' - and not made 300 years ago, or 30 years old.

That's the difference between the age of the materials, and the age of the thing you make out of the materials.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2007, 11:58:20 am »
I read abook years ago called 'fingerprints of the gods' or something, it was about this kind of thing. The author was convinced all these ancient monuments such as the pyramids, machu piccu ? , etc, etc, were all either built by aliens or built for aliens.like i said, this was years ago, so my memory of it is quite hazy, it was a very convincing read though.

Have read that book as well and very plausible it is too, some very interesting theories

the 'alien' angle though seems very hard to believe, not saying thats not possible though

the scientific evidence though does suggest that that the pyramids are much older than conventional egyptologists originally thought, which is i believe about 3000 years old, more and more scientists are know saying the true age of the structures are nearer to 12000 years, which if true is pretty damn amazing

the one thing about that book that got me thinking, was the chapter about the so called 'Tomb' in the Kings chamber, a granite block that after careful examination had been drilled out with diamond tipped tubular drills! an engineering marvel even by todays technological standards!

so whether it was aliens or some forgotten civilisation, there is definately more to it than what we are led to believe!


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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2007, 12:43:17 pm »
I've been into the opened pyramid at Giza - it felt very, very weird.

I've been to Egypt twice (Fully recommend it - amazing place and fantastic people) and have visted many many tombs and temples - and the feeling you get is 'unworldly' and it's strangely humbling - some of these places have been around for 5-8 THOUSAND years.

Amazing.

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Agree with that, was there last month. The sheer antiquity of them is breathtaking.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2007, 01:43:14 pm »

Built 70,000 years ago by the Atlanteans.

And geometrically perfect. Actually squares the circle...

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2007, 09:40:02 pm »
It just means they used older materials at the top - if you're quarrying somewhere, the stuff you quarry first (at the top) is newer than the stuff at the bottom, surely?

Not necessarily. Folds and faults could mean that the older rock ends up above the younger rock in the stratigraphic column.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2007, 10:05:46 pm »
Not necessarily. Folds and faults could mean that the older rock ends up above the younger rock in the stratigraphic column.

Or they could simply have quarried rock in more than one place. You know, old hill, not so old hill...anyone?

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2007, 10:11:34 pm »
Any way you slice it, parts of the pyramid could be THOUSANDS of years older, with no sinister alien influences!
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2007, 10:14:18 pm »
Any way you slice it, parts of the pyramid could be THOUSANDS of years older, with no sinister alien influences!

Oh no, it was clearly aliens. With a very evolved "smooth rock/rough rock" sensibility.

What, you think the aliens would bring the fucking rock with them?

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2007, 10:16:19 pm »
Fantastic place and well worth the visit. Did you know that on 7/7/07 there will be 7 new wonders of the world announced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Seven_Wonders_of_the_World

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2007, 10:29:43 pm »
Oh no, it was clearly aliens. With a very evolved "smooth rock/rough rock" sensibility.

What, you think the aliens would bring the fucking rock with them?

Why would they use rock anyway? 
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #25 on: April 1, 2007, 12:03:57 am »
Or they could simply have quarried rock in more than one place. You know, old hill, not so old hill...anyone?

Point I was trying to make was that you could quarry in one place and still hit older rock before younger from top to bottom.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #26 on: April 1, 2007, 09:12:17 am »
What, you think the aliens would bring the fucking rock with them?

They might have done if B&Q on Mars had a deal on giant stones.  ;)
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #27 on: April 1, 2007, 03:28:18 pm »
Fantastic place and well worth the visit. Did you know that on 7/7/07 there will be 7 new wonders of the world announced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Seven_Wonders_of_the_World

interesting shortlist...
i'd have gaudis Sagrada familia in barcelona  there too..
its just an incredible building that makes u go wow...


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« Reply #28 on: April 1, 2007, 04:11:22 pm »
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« Reply #30 on: April 1, 2007, 08:16:19 pm »
stumbled across this bbc article yesterday. a theory that it was built from the inside. at least part of it was. one of the pyramids anyway...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6514155.stm

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« Reply #31 on: April 1, 2007, 09:41:45 pm »
So here's the problem.....no one has hard evidence that Aliens actually exist. SO until that little bit is taken care of, that theory is ruled out. However, being an Archaeology student I really must comment that in general we know fuck all about the complex Egyptian society and what sort of inovation actually occured in that time. Furthermore, There is evidence to suggest that the principals of flight and aerodynamics was heavily studied by the Egyptians and may have been put to use in a glyder type fashion. My own thoughts about "Modern civilization" is that for so long we condescended upon "ancient civilizations" and we in fact have probably missed out on hundreds, if not thousands, possibly millions of inovations made by them.
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« Reply #32 on: April 2, 2007, 11:14:19 am »
interesting shortlist...
i'd have gaudis Sagrada familia in barcelona  there too..
its just an incredible building that makes u go wow...



They would want to finish it first, though...

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #33 on: April 2, 2007, 11:44:57 am »
However, being an Archaeology student

I'm afraid anyone with any experience of Archaeology students will be aware that you were pissed when you wrote that, as indeed you are when you're reading this and will be when you reply.
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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #34 on: April 2, 2007, 12:54:15 pm »
I'm afraid anyone with any experience of Archaeology students will be aware that you were pissed when you wrote that, as indeed you are when you're reading this and will be when you reply.

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« Reply #35 on: April 2, 2007, 03:46:17 pm »
So here's the problem.....



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« Reply #36 on: April 3, 2007, 02:54:36 am »
I'm afraid anyone with any experience of Archaeology students will be aware that you were pissed when you wrote that, as indeed you are when you're reading this and will be when you reply.

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Re: The Pyramids
« Reply #37 on: April 3, 2007, 10:52:47 am »
So here's the problem.....no one has hard evidence that Aliens actually exist.
Then what the fuckin hell is this thing then?

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« Reply #38 on: April 3, 2007, 03:17:40 pm »
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« Reply #39 on: April 3, 2007, 03:37:44 pm »

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