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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #120 on: July 3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm »
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #121 on: July 3, 2016, 12:40:02 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.

I don't think that's necessarily true, we were less of a pressing team under Rodgers and more a team of players who liked to press if that makes sense.

I don't hold out any hope for him really but it'll be interesting to see if Klopp tries to get something out of him. Sturridge and Origi will be away for a few weeks so we could see a bit of him in preseason.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #122 on: July 3, 2016, 12:48:38 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.

How is it not fair for a manager to ask one of his players when we haven't got the ball to either close the ball/man down or close areas of space and learn the concept of pressing.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #123 on: July 3, 2016, 12:48:58 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.

He can. He chooses not to.

Sorry but this 'he can't press' thing is ridiculous. If a genius like Luis Suarez can press then what excuse does Mario have other than he can't be arsed? 
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #124 on: July 3, 2016, 12:50:56 pm »
Quote from: King Klopp. on July  3, 2016, 12:48:58 pm
He can. He chooses not to.

Sorry but this 'he can't press' thing is ridiculous. If a genius like Luis Suarez can press then what excuse does Mario have other than he can't be arsed? 
I'm not really sure whether it matters.  Can't or won't? Doesn't is all that matters.

You are of course wrong that all players can press.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #125 on: July 3, 2016, 12:56:43 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:50:56 pm
I'm not really sure whether it matters.  Can't or won't? Doesn't is all that matters.

You are of course wrong that all players can press.

Stop being so insultingly arrogant and condescending. Really no need for it.

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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #126 on: July 3, 2016, 01:00:26 pm »
The guy's a malcontent and hopefully China beckons.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #127 on: July 3, 2016, 01:06:09 pm »
Quote from: ALPH1217 on July  3, 2016, 01:00:26 pm
The guy's a malcontent and hopefully China beckons.

China isn't the MLS, they seem to be spending big on decent players not just throwing money at garbage. It seems like Turkey isn't interested either judging by what his agent has said and it's gonna be difficult offloading an ego like his to a lower team.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #128 on: July 3, 2016, 01:07:22 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.
The same as sturridge then?
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #129 on: July 3, 2016, 01:08:02 pm »
Quote from: King Klopp. on July  3, 2016, 12:56:43 pm
Stop being so insultingly arrogant and condescending. Really no need for it.


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Grow up.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #130 on: July 3, 2016, 01:09:27 pm »
Quote from: Armless Louie Romano on July  2, 2016, 10:07:32 pm
Klopp won't take his shit.

Exactly my thinking.  Jurgen demands 100% from every single player.  We're lucky is Mario gives 50% half the time.

I just don't see a future for him here, not a chance.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #131 on: July 3, 2016, 01:09:50 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:50:56 pm
I'm not really sure whether it matters.  Can't or won't? Doesn't is all that matters.

You are of course wrong that all players can press.

Hang on, pressing requires fitness and knowledge of when and where to go. How is it beyond anyone to do?
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #132 on: July 3, 2016, 01:14:17 pm »
Quote from: Anfield89 on July  3, 2016, 01:09:50 pm
Hang on, pressing requires fitness and knowledge of when and where to go. How is it beyond anyone to do?
It also requires a certain characteristic of physical attributes.

Some players can learn these, but some players just don't have it in they'd make up.

It's about a player being right for the system. Balotelli isn't and never will be.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #133 on: July 3, 2016, 01:19:57 pm »
Would I like this guy getting game time infront of ings, Origi in fact any of our squad,  absolutely not.  He has made it clear he didn't want to return or play for us again (not sure he ever played for us) .
Suprise  Suprise Milan sent him packing and he's returned with his tail between his legs. Personally I wouldn't waste one second on him that could be spent with more deserving players.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #134 on: July 3, 2016, 01:24:26 pm »
Would be lucky to get on the bench in the capital cup.

Absolute waster, no idea why anyone would even contemplate keeping him around.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #135 on: July 3, 2016, 01:35:01 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 01:14:17 pm
It also requires a certain characteristic of physical attributes.

Some players can learn these, but some players just don't have it in they'd make up.

It's about a player being right for the system. Balotelli isn't and never will be.

It comes down to effort mate you either willing or your not. Everyone can do it, it just may not beable to do it quick enough. Say Lambert, could have all the knowledge and be willing but unable to cover the required ground which is fair enough but Balotelli when fit should not have that problem he's got the athletism.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #136 on: July 3, 2016, 01:36:02 pm »
Quote from: rocco on July  2, 2016, 10:09:31 pm
Anybody think Klopp thinking he can get the best out of Mario ?




Klopp is a great manager but he isn't a magician :-)
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #137 on: July 3, 2016, 02:20:12 pm »
Quote from: SMASHerano on July  3, 2016, 11:36:20 am
Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice...
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #138 on: July 3, 2016, 02:33:28 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.

He pressed a hell of a lot more under Rodgers then Sturridge did.  Of course he's never going to be a player like Suarez who will practically kill himself trying to get the ball back but I think he's got the ability to do a decent pressing job in him. 
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #139 on: July 3, 2016, 02:36:32 pm »
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #140 on: July 3, 2016, 02:40:25 pm »
Welcome him back give him the respect any LFC player deserves, lets see how it pans out.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #141 on: July 3, 2016, 02:42:50 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 01:14:17 pm
It also requires a certain characteristic of physical attributes.

Some players can learn these, but some players just don't have it in they'd make up.

It's about a player being right for the system. Balotelli isn't and never will be.

Being a right fit for the system is different to being able/able to learn how to press. It's ridiculous thinking a decent footballer like Balotelli can't learn how to. Won't is another thing, but you didn't say that.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #142 on: July 3, 2016, 02:43:57 pm »
Quote from: Suareznumber7 on July  3, 2016, 02:33:28 pm
He pressed a hell of a lot more under Rodgers then Sturridge did.  Of course he's never going to be a player like Suarez who will practically kill himself trying to get the ball back but I think he's got the ability to do a decent pressing job in him.

Daniel does that 'scoring goals' things though.
Always helps when you're a striker.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #143 on: July 3, 2016, 02:45:18 pm »
The hope will be that we can get him out the door as quickly and quietly as possible. More likely it rumbles on as he is so overpaid and has such a shit attitude.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #144 on: July 3, 2016, 02:45:42 pm »
A mate of mine has an interesting idea: "If you could transplant Kuyt's brain and mentality into Balotelli, you would have the best player in the Premier League, and one of the top 5 players in the world"  ;D
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #145 on: July 3, 2016, 02:49:13 pm »
The lad certainly has a sense of humour anyway.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #146 on: July 3, 2016, 02:59:42 pm »
 I still like him, and I don't care what any of you say!  :wave
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #147 on: July 3, 2016, 03:05:58 pm »
It depresses me he's even back for pre season training.

He's nowhere near good enough and proved it last time he was here. He's come back bashing Rogers, and it'll all turn into the Mario show again.

Wrong player, wrong attitude.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #148 on: July 3, 2016, 03:09:45 pm »
He's got zero chance with Klopp and I'm very OK with that and anyone saying differently is fooling themselves. This is going to be the toughest pre-season for probably every player on our squad, and every player on our squad gives a shit, unlike Mario. Klopp will see right through the words Mario said in that recent paper and will be out the door by the end of August.  :wave
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #149 on: July 3, 2016, 03:13:57 pm »
Sorry but me personally I think klopp could work with him. A lot better than benteke.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #150 on: July 3, 2016, 03:17:49 pm »
I love how blind people are to him, it's some Jedi mind tricks.

He scored one goal in a season for us. One goal playing up front for Liverpool Footbal Club, and he's 'alot' better than poor Benteke (please ban me mods, I am not worthy to post in this forum ) !!

I'm beginning to worry people think Jurgen is Paul Daniels rather than a football manager.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #151 on: July 3, 2016, 03:24:11 pm »
Mario is my favourite celebrity at LFC

But as a football signing? His time was up a couple months after he signed.

Benteke gets flak for not moving, not pressing... Mario seems to be a scarecrow, yet the limelight softens some to him. Including me.

But a full season with Klopp is not the time to fuck about... Mario, if he stays, either brings it on day one or he's out. I wouldn't select him above any other striker in the senior side.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #152 on: July 3, 2016, 03:30:52 pm »
He doesn't have enough desire to become better, evolve as a player, progress his talent, because of his carelessness he's never going to achieve anything more than what he already has. He hasn't improved in about 5 years. He never will.

Hope there is a suitable club somewhere for him
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #153 on: July 3, 2016, 04:46:09 pm »
I have this feeling he will hit an early season purple patch, get all egotistical, spat with Jurgen, gets benched, then loaned out mid season.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #154 on: July 3, 2016, 04:49:19 pm »
Quote from: Bend It Like Aurelio on July  3, 2016, 04:46:09 pm
I have this feeling he will hit an early season purple patch, get all egotistical, spat with Jurgen, gets benched, then loaned out mid season.
Who is he going to displace in the team at the start of the season?
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #155 on: July 3, 2016, 05:23:28 pm »
Quote from: PeterTheRed on July  3, 2016, 02:45:42 pm
A mate of mine has an interesting idea: "If you could transplant Kuyt's brain and mentality into Balotelli, you would have the best player in the Premier League, and one of the top 5 players in the world"  ;D

If you could put Dirk's mentality into any player, you would instantly improve them.

Point is, his mentality is rare.  Easy to say everyone should  try as hard.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #156 on: July 3, 2016, 06:03:06 pm »
Can i get whatever Mario's been Smoking Ballon D'or more like just a massive balloon.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #157 on: July 3, 2016, 06:14:23 pm »
Quote from: Mutton Geoff on July  3, 2016, 06:03:06 pm
Can i get whatever Mario's been Smoking Ballon D'or more like just a massive balloon.
Certainly has a very HIGH opinion of himself.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #158 on: July 3, 2016, 06:25:41 pm »
Quote from: Kinky Kenneth on July  3, 2016, 12:31:37 pm
With the best will in the world, Mario isn't a player who is going to press.

That's not a criticism, it a statement of fact.  It's not party of his game.

It would be neither right nor fair to ask him to do that, as we've seen before that he can't.
There's basically no place in football for someone who doesn't press.
Even Barca press. An asian team might be a place for him.
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Re: Mario Balotelli
« Reply #159 on: July 3, 2016, 06:50:48 pm »
There isn't enough lipstick in the world to make this pig attractive.
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