Author Topic: Tommy Smith - Can at least we as Liverpudlians get it right about him  (Read 47204 times)

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #200 on: April 12, 2019, 08:25:16 pm »
RIP a huge part of LFC and it's period of dominance
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #201 on: April 12, 2019, 08:26:42 pm »
God that is awful news

R.I.P Tommy,  i cherished watching you on the pitch.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #202 on: April 12, 2019, 08:29:17 pm »
RIP Tommy. A true Liverpool legend.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #203 on: April 12, 2019, 08:31:13 pm »
RIP Tommy Smith
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #204 on: April 12, 2019, 08:31:21 pm »
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #205 on: April 12, 2019, 08:31:52 pm »
Ah, no. Rest in peace Tommy
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #206 on: April 12, 2019, 08:32:58 pm »

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #207 on: April 12, 2019, 08:35:23 pm »
RIP

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #208 on: April 12, 2019, 08:35:43 pm »
Love this image of a young Tommy.


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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #209 on: April 12, 2019, 08:38:35 pm »
Liverpool legend.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #210 on: April 12, 2019, 08:40:04 pm »
Very sad news indeed. A fantastic player and person...easily one of the all-time Anfield greats.

Thanks for all you did at the club.

RIP.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #211 on: April 12, 2019, 08:48:05 pm »
RIP

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #212 on: April 12, 2019, 08:48:56 pm »
RIP Tommy, an absolute legend of the game.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #213 on: April 12, 2019, 08:53:33 pm »
RIP Tommy.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #214 on: April 12, 2019, 09:09:34 pm »
RIP the Anfield Iron.

Thoughts go out to his friends and family.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #215 on: April 12, 2019, 09:09:38 pm »
I kind of suspected this was coming, given Tommy being so absent from LFC things this past few years. It makes it no less sad for me and for others who grew up as Reds watching Tommy from the very start of his Anfield career.

I was going to write something as my own personal epitaph to the great man and then I remembered I had done a piece some time ago on another website in response to another piece about Tommy. So I'll just reproduce it here with a few amendments to tailor it for this thread.

I would say, newer fans should now read every word of it not least because the claims I make regarding the majesty of the man as an outstanding footballer - not simply the classifying of him as a legendary hardman - really do need to be digested and reflected upon.


Tommy Smith was a player so immense for LFC that words cannot begin to accord him justice.

Tommy’s arrival in ’64 as twin centre back [number 10 shirt] alongside Big Rowdy Yeats in a hitherto little known back four line-up came about 5 years after I’d begun watching the Reds from the Boys Pen as Shanks mounted his escape plan from Division Two.

I’ve never been totally sure whether the deployment of Smithy in that role was a true tactical masterstroke by Shanks or whether he was merely mimicking a tactical innovation of other sharp footballing minds elsewhere. I’d love it to have been Shanks’s own flash of tactical inspiration and it was certainly not deployed by every team back then. However, whatever the case, for LFC it not only ensured the securing of those ensuing historical mid ’60’s league and FA cup triumphs but also provided our formation blueprint for many years to come.

I’ve often said it to friends and family but I’ll repeat it here now as a most appropriate place to reiterate it. The Tommy Smith who bestrode domestic and European arenas back in those mid ’60’s adventures was the finest centre back I’ve ever witnessed bar Franz Beckenbauer.

Yes, read that again and and try to digest it.

Better than ANY others.

For me, despite the inevitable blue-eyed blond incarnation of the undoubtedly majestic Bobby Moore courtesy of the prevailing southern media and - in the eyes of our very own rewritten history - our own two subsequent greats in that position – Hansen and Lawrenson, it was only the performances I saw of Beckenbauer in that centre back role which have ever transcended those of Tommy Smith in the same role.

Most Reds fans today seem to reference Tommy’s cameos in the ’74 FA cup final and the ’77 European cup final as the testaments to his greatness. And I fully understand why people do so as they certainly do provide worthy substantiation of his abilities at that time. However, by that time Tommy good as he was was nothing like the Sixties superman that older fans knew him to be. Indeed, in order for those who weren't around back then to gain insight into the version of Tommy Smith which myself and other older Reds put on the pedestal of true world class greatness as a lean mean machine of outstanding strength, power, game reading and, paradoxically, bewitching ball skills and creative ability, I would refer folks to the entire videos of the ’65 final and the ensuing incredible triumph over the reigning world champions Inter Milan.

Both of these have rare cameos of the Tommy Smith we used to witness week in week out back in those halcyon days.

Sure, they show Tommy making those trademark tackles and headed clearances which, allied with a game-reading ability comparable in my opinion with that of Bobby Moore, rendered Tommy a defensive obstacle par excellence. Every Liverpudlian I’m sure knows of those. However, more revealingly they show tantalising glimpses of the immensely skilled and creative attacking footballer never content merely to destroy who would never waste an opportunity to slalom forward past trailing opponents of whatever pedigree to prise openings for his teammates.

For let there be no mistake, around that period Tommy Smith encountered, tamed and often outclassed the very finest attacking players the British and European game could muster and left many in his surging wake. The dearth of internet writers hailing from that time have ensured Tommy is remembered for his achievements more as the beefy right back in those superb ’74 and ’77 cameos against Newcastle and Gladbach. But let me assure everyone. They do not begin to convey one slivver of the full immensity of the real Tommy Smith, a player who ranks comfortably alongside Elisha Scott, Billy Liddell, Cally, Hunt, St John, Keegan, Emlyn, Dalglish, Souness, Hansen, Rush, Barnes, Suarez and Gerrard in the LFC pantheon of true greats.

Indeed, for many reasons the incomparable Tommy can possibly be said to eclipse them all.

I know from reading his own depictions of himself down the years as merely the ‘Anfield Iron’ how unassuming and self effacing he was in regard to what he brought to the Anfield table. Thankfully, there are still some of us who know the reality of his true greatness which goes infinitely beyond that hackneyed hardman summation of a true great. Suffice to say to bring this little epitaph up to date, the mid ‘60’s Tommy Smith as an anchor to our current sparkling attacking set up would guarantee any honour we’d care to name - irrespective of the presence of any highfalutin Man City's, Barcelonas or Real Madrids you care to name.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #216 on: April 12, 2019, 09:13:47 pm »
25th May 1977

... never forget that goal ... and everything that followed.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #217 on: April 12, 2019, 09:14:14 pm »
Legend. RIP Tommy.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #218 on: April 12, 2019, 09:15:23 pm »
RIP Tommy. First name on the team sheet.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #219 on: April 12, 2019, 09:20:53 pm »
"Born a man, never a boy" said Shanks. That comment was not just a nod towards Tommy Smith's larger than life presence on a football pitch, but was also about the player's hard upbringing in Liverpool. He lost his dad as a kid I believe and Liverpool FC became his family.

How he contributed to that family. Part of our illustrious history. The best English half-back of his generation because he could stop and create. Everyone knows he could stop. The legends grow around how intimidating he was as a defender. But none was silkier in possession than Smith. A Shankly player through and through. And therefore a Liverpool player.

What a header! "The delighted scorer is Tommy Smith".

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #220 on: April 12, 2019, 09:21:27 pm »
Gutted...loved Tommy Smith. Brilliant player, his abilities are often and sadly over looked cos people just remember him being a tough bastard.

I went to the same school as Tommy, Cardinal Godfrey in Anfield, the teachers (Christian Brothers) I was told where not that interested in his football ability, our school never even had a playing field.

We had to get a school bus to YewTree Lane Pitches in Liverpool 12...by the time we got there and travelled back, we had 20 minutes actual footy time!

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #221 on: April 12, 2019, 09:31:20 pm »
25th May 1977

... never forget that goal ... and everything that followed.

RIP
Was 8 years old and allowed to stay up to watch it
Never forget the feeling I had when he scored that goal
Close my eyes  and I can vividly remember it.
A true legend .
God bless you Tommy.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #222 on: April 12, 2019, 09:39:05 pm »
A little bit too young to remember him in his heyday, but read plenty of stories though.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #223 on: April 12, 2019, 09:39:43 pm »
Love this image of a young Tommy.


The lads at Viz defo modelled Biffa Bacon on that .
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #224 on: April 12, 2019, 09:40:08 pm »
RIP Tommy I remember that European Cup final goal like it was yesterday.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2019, 09:42:11 pm »
Was 8 years old and allowed to stay up to watch it
Never forget the feeling I had when he scored that goal
Close my eyes  and I can vividly remember it.
A true legend .
God bless you Tommy.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2019, 09:53:52 pm »
RIP. He was before my time, but from the accounts I have read he was a brilliant player, but not such a brilliant person off the pitch. He contributed much to Liverpool's on-field history and for that he will be remembered but I am also very glad that some of the beliefs he held are passing into history with him and are no longer accepted in the city or at the club.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2019, 09:56:38 pm »
R.I.P Tommy.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #228 on: April 12, 2019, 10:02:45 pm »
Can't remember the number of times I've casually thought to myself about a new signing, or even a new signing that's been here for years... that 'he hasn't got enough Tommy Smith in him', or 'needs a bit of Tommy Smith' in him. He was a poster boy for narl and fight so it's been good to be passionately reminded of his other qualities in that excellent post from 'Al' above on TAW (+ others).

I was too young, but not young enough to forget him in my first Panini sticker album in 76? 77? I remember staring at them for hours aged 6.

Hard to find a more iconic Liverpool player than Tommy. RIP

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #229 on: April 12, 2019, 10:06:16 pm »
Great post Timbo.
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« Reply #230 on: April 12, 2019, 10:12:25 pm »
It's ironic that Bill Shankly's noted "12th best player in the world" George Scott (left of Tommy) sent me this at half 7 this morning with the message "With  a few of the hardest men who ever played the game in this photo John".

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #231 on: April 12, 2019, 10:16:13 pm »
He was a much better footballer than people often gave him credit for-he started his career as a midfielder before starting his defensive role against Anderlecht in our first European campaign.I also thought he was an underated captain of the side in transition into Shanks second great team.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #232 on: April 12, 2019, 10:18:23 pm »



Great photo,four local lads from that brilliant 60's team.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #233 on: April 12, 2019, 10:20:14 pm »
Only saw you in videos, but your legend will live on forever. Thank you. RIP

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #234 on: April 12, 2019, 10:20:26 pm »
RIP Anfield Iron, loved watching you as a kid, during the glory days.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #235 on: April 12, 2019, 10:24:43 pm »
Good write up Timbo. Tommy for me was the start of the great journey. He was the first player who I saw who was class and who gave his heart and soul for Liverpool.

He got a 1 minute ovation tonight at the Sean Cox game.

RIP Tommy......legend
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #236 on: April 12, 2019, 10:33:05 pm »
Legend

says it all
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #237 on: April 12, 2019, 10:34:23 pm »
Gutted to hear that news tonight. He was a great player and will always be a Liverpool legend.

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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #238 on: April 12, 2019, 10:39:47 pm »
R.I.P. Tommy Smith, true Liverpool legend. Wonderful footballer and the 'hardest of them all', not my words but the words of Norman Hunter, who i had a chat with many years ago at a sportsmans dinner at the BICC club in Prescot. God bless you Tommy. Y.N.W.A.
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Re: Tommy Smith (The Anfield Iron) R.I.P.
« Reply #239 on: April 12, 2019, 10:45:38 pm »
That’s lovely Timbo.

God bless Tommy and thanks for everything you did for this great club and the wonderful memories.  I can see that header in Rome like it was yesterday.

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