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« Reply #200 on: December 11, 2021, 11:54:01 pm »
saving this for Xmas when i get some time off, but just watching some clips on Youtube - just amazing to watch them when they were creating this magic. Astounding stuff, they were such great guys too. So much fun together

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« Reply #201 on: December 12, 2021, 09:09:00 pm »
I haven't seen this as I don't have the channel but I found the comments really interesting from everyone. I like that Paul is getting a bit more love, I always felt as if he got a lot of the muck thrown his way. But I never doubted just how much he loved working in the band and just being part of it. He's always come across to me as someone who has a passion for what he does and a natural love for song writing and performing.
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« Reply #202 on: December 12, 2021, 09:13:19 pm »
Paul is the best in this. Not a fan of his beard though.

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« Reply #203 on: December 13, 2021, 12:34:36 am »
I felt sorry for Harrison during this. Lennon's mostly checked out until they go to Apple Studios and McCartney has pretty much decided (rightly or wrongly) to push his vision of The Beatles. Imagine dismissing All Things Must Pass but pushing Maxwell's Silver Hammer. No wonder by the end of the month Harrison is talking about wanting to do a solo album.

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« Reply #204 on: December 16, 2021, 03:05:20 am »
Started this today with the intention of watching it over the weekend and just never turned it off for 9 hours! Absolutely amazing insight to how they worked. Felt sorry a little bit for McCartney as I got the feeling he knew it was starting to slip but just wanted to keep the momentum going. Two moments where when Preston started playing and his eyes lit up, the second was when he turns around and sees the coppers come onto the roof as he looks back around he's absolutely made up! haha


Don't forget the bit (shown in slow-mo) where he's being told the idea of playing on the roof (the big bang ending he wanted)

The look of sheer joy on his face!
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« Reply #205 on: December 26, 2021, 12:24:44 am »
Saved this for Christmas and just finished it tonight. Crying. It's the best music documentary I've ever seen. It's a miracle, I can't believe this footage existed. Will be watching over and over. Watching them hammer stuff into shape from scraps, it was graft as much as it was genius. What a thing to have access to.

Highlights:

- Paul working out Get Back
- the John and George dynamic. Man I'd love if they'd done that mooted George album as the Beatles. John had defo checked out, but he has so much sympathy for George's position, just wasn't arsed taking Paul on.
- the India reminiscing
- Ringo in general
- Paul's shimmy when the cops arrived on the roof
- George turning his amp back on when Mal turns it off

Paul was an absolute force of nature. But John is so fucking natural, makes all those rockers.

It rewrites everything about the end. 10/10
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« Reply #206 on: December 26, 2021, 09:51:15 am »
Just finished it.. Absolute gem. Just have to marvel that despite the unsaid friction they could still procuce all time classics in such a short period of time is mind blowing. 8 hours of footage and you still leave it wanting more.

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« Reply #207 on: December 27, 2021, 02:15:10 am »
Told myself I'd finish Get Back over Christmas, and I did. There'll never, ever be anything of their like again - and fuck me, how much did Paul and John want to lamp each other ;D

Some spectacular outfits on show as well. If my fella doesn't turn up to our wedding in George's baby pink corduroy suit / purple shirt combo, it's off.

Edit: I echo others, I've always been a George girl but Paul has massively, massively gone up in my estimations after that.
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« Reply #208 on: December 27, 2021, 09:57:30 am »
Yes, was absolutely lovely. You could tell they loved each other, but were just fed up working the way they did. There were lovely wee moments sprinkled throughout: Lennon when not off his face faffing about with comedy versions, everyone giving Ringo song writing advice. Paul trying to keep the show on the road and still producing the goods. John calling Ringo “Richie”. Billy Preston a joy. Wee Heather McCartney imitating Yoko & the band playing with her as you would with your friends children.
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« Reply #209 on: December 28, 2021, 11:53:13 am »
I was worried before I sat down to watch this that my expectations might have been to high. There was a lot of hype around it and a lot of talented people involved in the film's production. Plus we're talking about the greatest band in history! But, jeez, what an experience. Totally immersive if you watch it, as we did, in two blocks on consecutive days.

First of all you have to congratulate Peter Jackson. I'd seen his brilliant film on the Great War and so knew what respect he held his subject in. But, as someone said earlier in the thread, it would have been so easy to go down the conventional route and produce a 'documentary' that showed just the highlights (or lowlights as the original one did), and stick a load of recently filmed interviews in there. A sort of confectionary-store piece of schmaltz. But Jackson went for 'verite' instead - a purist 'fly on the wall' edit. Sure, the original footage was shot in verite style, but most directors (or rather producers) would have pillaged that for the best bits and added a load of sugar.

And how brilliantly was it edited? A story emerged from the mass of material - several stories in fact - and the emotional range of the whole thing was so extensive. The four lads may never have completely forgotten the presence of the cameras but for long periods they clearly did push them to the back of their minds. The result is that we saw how blessedly ordinary they were, as well as how genius works and how ragged it can be. The painstaking nature of it. How individual flashes of inspiration work in harness with, or even in conflict with, other inspired minds. And despite their clashes, and occasional tantrums, you could say that not one of these scousers was a prima donna. Not one of them behaved like 'pop stars'. You saw it most in the way talked to the doorman and the secretaries, the way they were around the sound engineers and the other skilled workers (like Glyn Johns). And especially the way they played with Linda's kid. Snarkiness occasionally reared its head, but it was killed every time by their outrageous and inclusive sense of humour. 

Others have talked about seeing 'Get Back' incubate almost in real time - and 'I've Got a Feeling' too. I personally couldn't get enough of 'Two of Us' for the simple reason it was fascinating watching the ever changing chemistry between Paul and John. The arrival of Billy Preston was marvellous too. That seam of gold he threaded through songs like 'Don't let me Down'. And then George! The 'commercial-type' documentary would not have shown the embarrassing episode early on where both Paul and John sniffed at an early version of one of the greatest pop songs of all time ('These Things Must Pass') and it was painful witnessing George, newly flinty and fresh from being with 'The Band' in upstate New York, trying to assert himself and create his own mountain range.

I'm glad they covered Allen Klein. Glyn John's assessment was a 'cheer-out loud' moment. Words to effect that he was "a very strange man" and that if he didn't like the answer you were giving him he'd simply cut you off rudely and talk about something else. "It's really bugging me" he said. And Lennon could be heard chipping in "Very strange, yeah, but very brilliant too").  That was the point when you understood the Beatles were destined to break up.   

And then the climax, the roof concert that we all know so well. Jackson's colossal accomplishment was to allow us to see this familiar material for the first time, as it were. I loved the moment when they went out on to the roof for a recce. Paul leaping up over the parapets as if he was a young limber kid in a Liverpool playground. Poor, portly, Michael Lindsay-Hogg being dragged on his belly on to the gantry. And the concert itself. Never having known about all the arguments about where to play live and the doubts about even doing it at all (which existed right until the day before) it was sensational to see them up there. For the first time! The first uncertain chords and then - characteristically I would say - Paul McCartney hitting his stride, shouting "Yeah", and filling the other three with confidence and energy.

When they finally walk off the roof and back into the stairwell and you're told that is the last time they will ever perform live together......Sob.

What a document though. It confirmed what perhaps we all knew already. The Beatles split at the height of their creative powers. I'm eternally grateful for what they gave us, but even sadder now that there were probably 2 or 3 more LPs of genius that they never got to make together.

Happy New Year to Paul and Ringo. And thanks.   
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« Reply #210 on: December 28, 2021, 02:04:34 pm »
Truly wonderful.

The film is like some great archaeological find ..up there with Tutankhamen or Sutten Hoo.

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« Reply #211 on: December 29, 2021, 08:57:43 am »
Superb response to it Yorky.
I know a few big fans haven't made themselves sit down and watch it yet. They still have all those emotions ahead of them.

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« Reply #212 on: December 29, 2021, 09:31:07 am »

Some spectacular outfits on show as well. If my fella doesn't turn up to our wedding in George's baby pink corduroy suit / purple shirt combo, it's off.

John's rainbow striped shirt in the 2nd episode for me. Would be a bit of a sea change from the well fed vampire thing I have going, but would 100% wear once and instantly regret when I walked downstairs to howls of derision.

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« Reply #213 on: December 29, 2021, 02:07:47 pm »
John's rainbow striped shirt in the 2nd episode for me. Would be a bit of a sea change from the well fed vampire thing I have going, but would 100% wear once and instantly regret when I walked downstairs to howls of derision.

I said the same to my missus, I want Johns rainbow shirt but she scoffed and said I would never wear it which is probably true!

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« Reply #214 on: December 30, 2021, 06:09:09 pm »
The films have been widely praised, but this (Adam Gopnik, New Yorker) is the most perceptive and interesting review I've read to date:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/a-close-read-of-the-beatles-in-get-back
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« Reply #215 on: December 30, 2021, 07:03:44 pm »
Can I just say the most important thing in whole film...totally lost elsewhere..Paul said ' sagging' instead of 'bunking ' off....proper Scouse that...he also called John the "coolest ( or similar) guy
in Garston".

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« Reply #216 on: December 30, 2021, 07:05:53 pm »
The films have been widely praised, but this (Adam Gopnik, New Yorker) is the most perceptive and interesting review I've read to date:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/a-close-read-of-the-beatles-in-get-back

Good read mate ,cheers!

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« Reply #217 on: December 30, 2021, 09:26:18 pm »
My favourite bit of this is when the police come up to the roof.  They all turned around a bit iffy, apart from Paul who thought ‘fuck it’ and played into Get Back.

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« Reply #218 on: January 1, 2022, 09:58:14 pm »
Simply wonderful. Truly…four Scousers who shook the world.

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« Reply #219 on: January 5, 2022, 04:08:31 pm »
My favourite bit of this is when the police come up to the roof.  They all turned around a bit iffy, apart from Paul who thought ‘fuck it’ and played into Get Back.

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Yeah, another one of the (many) moments that made me re-assess my long-held opinions on Paul. Even Lennon looked a bit cagey while Paul just had that 'fuck them' look on his face.

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« Reply #220 on: January 5, 2022, 04:27:07 pm »
Yeah, another one of the (many) moments that made me re-assess my long-held opinions on Paul. Even Lennon looked a bit cagey while Paul just had that 'fuck them' look on his face.

It was his original plan, wasn't it? In the first episode, where everyone is speculating on what they should do for the live concert, it's Macca who wants to play somewhere "illegal". He suggests the Houses of Parliament and has visions of being yanked into a police van while still trying to play his bass guitar. The sudden appearance of the coppers on the roof must have seemed like the fruition of a plan.

In Craig Brown's fantastic book which came out last year ('One, Two, Three, Four') he records that Paul, true to form, actually spoke to the coppers after it was all over to say 'sorry about the bother lads'.

I must say he comes out of both that book and this documentary as a first-class bloke. As well as the creative genius we already knew he was. Mind you, they all come out of it well - even John who was obviously 'digging his pony' most of the time.
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« Reply #221 on: January 5, 2022, 10:06:19 pm »
One thing I thought was mad in this whole story was that even though they'd recorded a handful of great songs in these sessions, they basically just shelved them and started recording a whole new album just a few weeks later. I mean I Iike Abbey Road, but think how good it would've been with the best tracks from these sessions as well.

So it could be like:

Get Back
Come Together
Something
Two Of Us
Across the Universe
Let It Be
Here Comes The Sun
Don't Let Me Down
The Long And Winding Road
I've Got A Feeling
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« Reply #222 on: January 5, 2022, 11:19:44 pm »
Saved this for Christmas and just finished it tonight. Crying. It's the best music documentary I've ever seen. It's a miracle, I can't believe this footage existed. Will be watching over and over. Watching them hammer stuff into shape from scraps, it was graft as much as it was genius. What a thing to have access to.

Highlights:

- Paul working out Get Back
- the John and George dynamic. Man I'd love if they'd done that mooted George album as the Beatles. John had defo checked out, but he has so much sympathy for George's position, just wasn't arsed taking Paul on.
- the India reminiscing
- Ringo in general
- Paul's shimmy when the cops arrived on the roof
- George turning his amp back on when Mal turns it off

Paul was an absolute force of nature. But John is so fucking natural, makes all those rockers.

It rewrites everything about the end. 10/10


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« Reply #223 on: January 6, 2022, 03:42:37 am »
It is simply incredible. Strangely it confirms the broad assumptions about their roles and confirms what a control freak Paul could be.

But crucially, we sympathise with Paul in his actions. Working with him may have been unbearable at times but my god, what a grafter he is. Obsessive to the extreme, he’s just the driving force that was needed to drag the ailing band by the scruff of its necks. And that was partly due to his fear of the band breaking up - unlike George and John, he just couldn’t comprehend life without The Beatles.  I dare say that without that hellbent attitude, the band could have petered out and ended on a whimper but I think it’s mostly thanks to him that they ended on top quality with Abbey Road.

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« Reply #224 on: January 6, 2022, 11:23:16 am »
You do wonder if Paul wasn't the driving force in the later years and it all fell apart how many fewer Beatles albums there would be.
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« Reply #225 on: January 6, 2022, 11:51:45 am »
It was his original plan, wasn't it? In the first episode, where everyone is speculating on what they should do for the live concert, it's Macca who wants to play somewhere "illegal". He suggests the Houses of Parliament and has visions of being yanked into a police van while still trying to play his bass guitar. The sudden appearance of the coppers on the roof must have seemed like the fruition of a plan.

In Craig Brown's fantastic book which came out last year ('One, Two, Three, Four') he records that Paul, true to form, actually spoke to the coppers after it was all over to say 'sorry about the bother lads'.

I must say he comes out of both that book and this documentary as a first-class bloke. As well as the creative genius we already knew he was. Mind you, they all come out of it well - even John who was obviously 'digging his pony' most of the time.

I’m paraphrasing slightly, but Paul said something like “You’ve gotta have a bit of violence” when talking about the prospect of the live show.
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« Reply #226 on: January 6, 2022, 12:10:46 pm »
I’m paraphrasing slightly, but Paul said something like “You’ve gotta have a bit of violence” when talking about the prospect of the live show.
The concept of Get Back was to get back to basics in terms of recording - strip out the tape loops and other studio effects - so a live show based on that would have felt to them like an awful lot like the early shows in Hamburg, which had more of a touch of the ol' ultraviolence about them. 
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« Reply #227 on: January 6, 2022, 12:16:09 pm »
The concept of Get Back was to get back to basics in terms of recording - strip out the tape loops and other studio effects - so a live show based on that would have felt to them like an awful lot like the early shows in Hamburg, which had more of a touch of the ol' ultraviolence about them. 


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« Reply #228 on: January 28, 2022, 09:30:23 am »
Finally got to the end of it yesterday. Was actually quite sad when I finished.

Knowing that they only had 1 more album in them. And then all the fall outs and 10 years later John is dead.

Such a shame really.

I always think, what if John wasn't killed, would they have reformed? Even for a live show? I doubt they would have for an album - especially George's reluctance for the Anthology.

Also, the whole audio from the rooftop concert on Spotify now.
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« Reply #229 on: January 28, 2022, 11:37:38 am »
I’m reading “1234, The Beatles in Time” by Craig Brown. Some lovely stories & anecdotes I’d never heard in there, lots of weird connections to other people who went on to become big. I enjoyed the story of John trying to get off with Ronnie Spector. Paul should definitely have not messed around behind Jane Asher’s back…
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« Reply #233 on: January 29, 2022, 10:06:51 pm »
I'm thinking I will have to pay for this subscription if only to see this series, is it pretty easy to cancel Disney+ afterwards does anyone know?
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« Reply #234 on: January 29, 2022, 11:29:05 pm »
I'm thinking I will have to pay for this subscription if only to see this series, is it pretty easy to cancel Disney+ afterwards does anyone know?

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« Reply #235 on: January 29, 2022, 11:53:39 pm »
Think so, you don't have to sign up for a contract or anything, so you can cancel it any time.

Thanks for that, no reason not to do it then. 😀
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« Reply #236 on: January 30, 2022, 09:16:25 am »
I'm thinking I will have to pay for this subscription if only to see this series, is it pretty easy to cancel Disney+ afterwards does anyone know?

You can also catch “Hamilton” whilst you are at it. My daughter actually signed us up for it for that purpose & we still have Disney+. I think it’s not as good as Netflix but better than Prime.
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« Reply #237 on: January 30, 2022, 04:48:01 pm »
You can also catch “Hamilton” whilst you are at it. My daughter actually signed us up for it for that purpose & we still have Disney+. I think it’s not as good as Netflix but better than Prime.

Interesting I may do that. I don’t watch much on Prime to be honest.
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« Reply #238 on: February 3, 2022, 10:37:36 am »
One of the many achievements of this new film is that it rehabilitates 'Let it Be' (the album).

It's always suffered in the past, for well-known reasons. It was released after the Beatles broke up, it came after a 3-year run where everything the Beatles touched turned to gold, and above all it was smeared in the sugary syrup that Spector ladled all over it. Or "puke" as Glyn Johns referred to it on the film's opening night.

There were always great songs on the LP. Let it Be, Get Back, Long and Winding Road, Two of Us stand comparison with anything the Beatles had done. But the Spector mix was a disaster, as were his strange omissions (Don't Let Me Down). But now, with the new Glyn Johns mix and with the documentaries showing the painful, joyous, exhausting, transcending evolution of the songs it's impossible not to look at 'Let it Be' with fresh eyes. I think it's a brilliant album. Great singing and harmonising ('I've Got a Feeling'), superb funk by Billy Preston etc. I even love 'Dig a Pony' - especially its barbed reference to the Beatles's most famous tribute band.
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« Reply #239 on: February 5, 2022, 07:41:12 pm »
It's interesting the points you've made about the Let It Be album generally, Yorky. It's always been one of my favourite albums of theirs. But then I do go for a lot of their songs which were not released as singles. I could make a playlist with songs such as One of Us, I've Got a Feeling, Oh! Darling, You Never Give Me Your Money, etc etc. I have just as much love for those ditties as for any of their official singles. I think you are correct in the explanation of them splitting up as affecting the album as a result. The best thing about this film is hopefully that will be put right now and it will win some new admirers.
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