Topic: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.

[Crosby Nick]

Taking the kids to see Spider-Man later. Do I need to remember what happened in the last couple to follow it?

[AndyMuller]

Taking the kids to see Spider-Man later. Do I need to remember what happened in the last couple to follow it?

I’d say so mate yeah, it starts off from the end of the previous one.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Taking the kids to see Spider-Man later. Do I need to remember what happened in the last couple to follow it?

Remembering the other five won't hurt either

[Crosby Nick]

Remembering the other five won't hurt either

Crikey. I’ll probably have my usual cinema sleep for a bit of it then.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Watched Spider Man last night. Thought it was a mess. Also saw The Eternals and thought it was all over the place. Hope they get their act together for the rest

[stewil007]

Watched the Eternals with the family the other night and we all enjoyed, yes, was a bit messy at times but dont get some of the criticism.

I guess my one gripe at the minute, is the amount of new characters to keep track of.....

[Nobby Reserve]

Marvel currently filming the Secret Invasion TV series on Leeds and Huddersfield.

In Feb, they'll be moving filming to Sintellins (one of the old Pilks factories, apparently)

Chance SLJ to fit a game or two in at Anfield 

[blert596]

Marvel currently filming the Secret Invasion TV series on Leeds and Huddersfield.

In Feb, they'll be moving filming to Sintellins (one of the old Pilks factories, apparently)

Chance SLJ to fit a game or two in at Anfield 

Nah mate. Mane and Salah will be back by then. :-)

although SLJ Lad has a ring to it.

[Scottymuser]

Marvel currently filming the Secret Invasion TV series on Leeds and Huddersfield.

In Feb, they'll be moving filming to Sintellins (one of the old Pilks factories, apparently)

Chance SLJ to fit a game or two in at Anfield 

Hey - they've been filming here in Halifax too!

[Scottymuser]

Watched Spider Man last night. Thought it was a mess. Also saw The Eternals and thought it was all over the place. Hope they get their act together for the rest

Yeah, you are so, so wrong about Spiderman.  Easily the best live action Spiderman film, top 5-7 MCU film, and only Spiderverse beats it for best Spiderman content on screen (and then only *just*).  Not seen Eternals yet, but will watch it soon.

[Scottymuser]

Catching up on various Marvel stuff over the last 6 months.

Shang Chi - mediocre. My impressions going in were that it was going to be good and was a change of pace from previous Marvel movies. Whilst I enjoyed it better than the cookie-cutter Black Widow, and there was nothing glaringly bad about it, this is the type of movie that will kill the franchise if they keep churning it out.

Spiderman NWH - this was hyped to hell but still exceeded expecations. Easily a top 5 comic book movie ever for me and one of the only ones where I felt it could have lasted longer. Can't say too much as I'm sure there are people who still don't know what goes on or who appears in this movie. Certainly the best comic-book movie experience since Avengers.

Hawkeye - probably the worst of the TV series so far. What I don't like especially is how a teenager (Kate) is able to mix it up with people who have been doing it all their lives. Not a terrible show by any means, but really meh.

Shang Chi was amazing - top 10 MCU film easily, but not quite top 5.  Still really, really good

Spiderman NWH - agree on everything other than "top 5 comic book movie ever" - defo top 5 MCU, but might be closer to 10th when including all (non-MCU) films.  Still utterly amazing. 

Hawkeye - disagree slightly - I think it is slightly better than Falcon and Winter Soldier.  But not as good as Loki or Wandavision I'd agree.  Seems unfair though to brandish it as "meh" given how good all 4 shows have been (there are plenty of worse non-MCU MArvel shows on netflix for example).  Also disagree completely (and agree with a couple of people's explanations above about how she should be that good) around Kate should be able to keep up with most (of the terrible at their job and stupid tracksuit ganbg) people she has fought.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Yeah, you are so, so wrong about Spiderman.  Easily the best live action Spiderman film, top 5-7 MCU film, and only Spiderverse beats it for best Spiderman content on screen (and then only *just*).  Not seen Eternals yet, but will watch it soon.

No, you’re so so so so so so wrong, easily one of the worst Spider-Man movies never mind mcu fleems. It’s an absolute mess.

[lionel_messias]

No, you’re so so so so so so wrong, easily one of the worst Spider-Man movies never mind mcu fleems. It’s an absolute mess.

Hmm, seems you don't like Marvel films or Spiderman then?

Easily one of the best examples of both. What are some films you don't find a mess then, just out of interest. I mean, there are always contrarian views, there must be people
out there who didn't like Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame too I guess.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

Hmm, seems you don't like Marvel films or Spiderman then?

Easily one of the best examples of both. What are some films you don't find a mess then, just out of interest. I mean, there are always contrarian views, there must be people
out there who didn't like Avengers: Infinity War and Endgame too I guess.

love marvel films, love Spider-Man, think this is a mess, simple

[ScouserAtHeart]

Yeah, you are so, so wrong about Spiderman.  Easily the best live action Spiderman film, top 5-7 MCU film, and only Spiderverse beats it for best Spiderman content on screen (and then only *just*).  Not seen Eternals yet, but will watch it soon.

It's all subjective of course but Spider-Man 2 is the best one, top 3 comic book movies of all time for me

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

It's all subjective of course but Spider-Man 2 is the best one, top 3 comic book movies of all time for me

See, I agree with this. But, I won’t go and tell them they’re so so wrong. Etc. Christ get over ya fucking self

[thegoodfella]

See, I agree with this. But, I won’t go and tell them they’re so so wrong. Etc. Christ get over ya fucking self

You are wrong about telling people to not go around telling others to be wrong Capon.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

You are wrong about telling people to not go around telling others to be wrong Capon.

Well, you’ve just gone on my shit list ya Dip shit. I take it you’re from a long line of bellends?

[Skeeve]

While I did like NWH, I don't rate it as highly as many seem to do, it felt like they just threw in a lot of fanservice stuff to disguise the fact that they were basically doing a version of one of the comic's least popular storylines.

[thegoodfella]

Well, you’ve just gone on my shit list ya Dip shit. I take it you’re from a long line of bellends?

As long a line as your collection of shit photoshop images.

About MCU stuff, not really arsed about anything since Endgame. Not seen any of the movies because couldn't be arsed about the long roster of 'new' superheroes who were 'there' when Thanos showed up but not really there. Wanda started off nice, Loki had to be brought back to life because they needed him around, Falcon and Winter Soldier had some interesting elements but didn't finish it, didn't see Hawkeye.

But I get it, everyone needs a superhero they can get behind and that's all fine. I might check it out again when they bring Fantastic 4 and Doctor Doom in the MCU.

[newterp]

are we ever getting an X-men / avengers cross-over?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

While I did like NWH, I don't rate it as highly as many seem to do, it felt like they just threw in a lot of fanservice stuff to disguise the fact that they were basically doing a version of one of the comic's least popular storylines.

Seems strange to have a go at a studio for giving fans what they want?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

are we ever getting an X-men / avengers cross-over?

Avengers and X-Men are both from Earth-616 and some members of the Avengers were in the X-men too

But the Marvel Cinematic Universe hasn't mentioned them together and I think it would be too much of a stretch to have them in there all along.

I'd suggest that the upcoming film (Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness), introducing and expanding on the Multiverse (Coined by Micharl Moorcock actually) might have the X-men come in from a different reality somewhere down the line.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

As long a line as your collection of shit photoshop images.

About MCU stuff, not really arsed about anything since Endgame. Not seen any of the movies because couldn't be arsed about the long roster of 'new' superheroes who were 'there' when Thanos showed up but not really there. Wanda started off nice, Loki had to be brought back to life because they needed him around, Falcon and Winter Soldier had some interesting elements but didn't finish it, didn't see Hawkeye.

But I get it, everyone needs a superhero they can get behind and that's all fine. I might check it out again when they bring Fantastic 4 and Doctor Doom in the MCU.

I like it all but these new couple of fleems are a bit of mess. They reminded me of DC films in the sense they’re longer than they needed to be and yet somehow crammed loadsa stuff into them without really saying anything and yet had massive gaps with nothing. Spider Man was like a kid had written it. Felt like I was watching that Terence and Philip sketch where they were doing Shakespeare in parts

As far as tv shows go, I’ve liked em all from what I remember. There’s a few I ain’t seen like AOS and lesser known ones but on the whole this is basically the first time I’ve been disappointed. to be honest not that disappointed just thought they were a mess . Venom though, what’s that shite? Just remembered that one

Maybe it’s cos it’s sony(I know eternals isn’t)

[redwillow]

are we ever getting an X-men / avengers cross-over?

We had 10 years of Infinity Saga, we are now moving into the Multiverse/Kang ?? saga (who knows what saga this actually is) but i would imagine we have a mutant saga in the future

[Ziltoid]

Marvel's Secret Invasion being filmed in the good old 'Fax

[Peabee]

I like it all but these new couple of fleems are a bit of mess. They reminded me of DC films in the sense they’re longer than they needed to be and yet somehow crammed loadsa stuff into them without really saying anything and yet had massive gaps with nothing. Spider Man was like a kid had written it. Felt like I was watching that Terence and Philip sketch where they were doing Shakespeare in parts

As far as tv shows go, I’ve liked em all from what I remember. There’s a few I ain’t seen like AOS and lesser known ones but on the whole this is basically the first time I’ve been disappointed. to be honest not that disappointed just thought they were a mess . Venom though, what’s that shite? Just remembered that one

Maybe it’s cos it’s sony(I know eternals isn’t)

It feels like each film is setting the scene for the next film. It seems, to me, they’re far too concerned with how to connect each film/series than the plot. The plot of the latest Spider-Man film was just silly and purely a device to fit the three spider-men in to one film.

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

It feels like each film is setting the scene for the next film. It seems, to me, they’re far too concerned with how to connect each film/series than the plot. The plot of the latest Spider-Man film was just silly and purely a device to fit the three spider-men in to one film.

yeah, think you’ve nailed it. A lot of people seem to be more arsed about the end credit spoilers than anything they watch in the previous 2 hours

[B0151?]

Watched Spider Man last night. Thought it was a mess. Also saw The Eternals and thought it was all over the place. Hope they get their act together for the rest

I enjoyed it but I agree it was a mess. I enjoyed where it took the story but the fan service was just too much for my liking. I understand the constraints and there was probably too much in it already, but just the fact that the only characters were ones we already knew made it feel a bit too forced for me. I understand it's a comic book film and all that but just something like Enter the Spider Verse did the concept so much better and more smoothly for me. Nostalgia-fest aspect detracted from the story.

I liked that it gave Tom's Spider-Man some proper Spidey grounding and depth as I wasn't a fan of Iron Boy Spidey and enjoyed the performances of the returning actors but yeah definitely not a masterpiece for me like others think. What I'm most excited about is where it leaves Spider Man for the next films. But each to their own of course

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

I enjoyed it but I agree it was a mess. I enjoyed where it took the story but the fan service was just too much for my liking. I understand the constraints and there was probably too much in it already, but just the fact that the only characters were ones we already knew made it feel a bit too forced for me. I understand it's a comic book film and all that but just something like Enter the Spider Verse did the concept so much better and more smoothly for me. Nostalgia-fest aspect detracted from the story.

I liked that it gave Tom's Spider-Man some proper Spidey grounding and depth as I wasn't a fan of Iron Boy Spidey and enjoyed the performances of the returning actors but yeah definitely not a masterpiece for me like others think. What I'm most excited about is where it leaves Spider Man for the next films. But each to their own of course

i didn’t hate it, nor Eternals. I know I said earlier it’s one of the worst Spider-Man fleems but I was just replying to a post by someone telling me I was wrong. Taking the piss back with the opposite of what they said basically. It did feel forced yeah and they didn’t really get any use outta that old cast of villains in the 2 hours and 35 you’d expect or liked them to have. I enjoyed the previous Spidey and there’s a 5 or 10 minute segment in that film that for me has to be one of the best parts of any MCU movie out there. (The Mysterio illusions/ hallucinations) but I did think at times this one felt like it was written by a kid.

[gazzalfc]

Eternals felt very Umbrella Academy. Still not seen Spider man. Or Venom

[ScouserAtHeart]

Venom 1 was fun

[AndyMuller]

Wasp is being cancelled on twitter for anti-vax views.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Rumours going around that John Krasinski will be introduced as Reed Richards in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness

[redwillow]

Rumours going around that John Krasinski will be introduced as Reed Richards in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness

The rumours i saw are that he will be unveiled as Captain America

[The G in Gerrard]

Spiderman was decent.

Eternals was just poor.

[killer-heels]

The rumours i saw are that he will be unveiled as Captain America

That sounds shit.

[John_P]

That sounds shit.

He was one of the final choices when they originally cast Chris Evans. Think Marvel were very much all in on Chris Evans though who apparently turned them down a few times.

[gazzalfc]

He was one of the final choices when they originally cast Chris Evans. Think Marvel were very much all in on Chris Evans though who apparently turned them down a few times.

Well they wanted to sign him down for 10 years at a time when Marvel had only done a couple of poorly received Fantastic 4 films (which he was a part of as the Human Torch), a couple of equally poor Hulk films and Jon Favreau gambling on Robert Downy Jr as Iron man.

If he knew in 2009 what we know now in 2022 with the MCU it seems like an easy decision.

[El Lobo]

The rumours i saw are that he will be unveiled as Captain America

They seem to be churning out rumours pretty much based on what they did with Spiderman. I saw a great one saying that

Spoiler

Tom Cruise

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would be an Ironman variant in Multiverse of Madness. There's all sorts they could do really, it could be amazing.