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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #80 on: October 31, 2012, 01:02:47 am »
I really don't know what to think about this. I would hate for star wars to be made even more mediocre by them releasing more shite along the lines of episodes I & II. On the other hand they could rejuvenate the series and make it awesome again.

I'll be in line on opening day no matter what though so I guess it doesn't really matter to Disney.

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« Reply #81 on: October 31, 2012, 01:03:19 am »
Maybe they could do a reboot of I to III with Christopher Nolan in charge. Nice and dark and no mita-bloody-chlorins in sight. ;)

Nolan, and going dark, would be a terrible choice for Star Wars. You need a light touch, the same tone as Whedon's Avengers.

Brad Bird or Del Toro would be my first picks. The 2015 release date makes me think they must have approached/interviewed people already as well. All of the Marvel people are booked up for the next 5 years or something so it's not going to be Whedon.
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Re: Star Wars Episode 7
« Reply #82 on: October 31, 2012, 01:07:46 am »
Jedis are the bedrock of the Star Wars story and after episode 6 Luke was the only remaining one so they'd have to follow his character in some form. In the expanded universe series I recall he sets up a new jedi academy and starts training new apprectices, including Han and Leia's son.

Palpatine is supposedly still alive as his spirit is brought to life so they could follow the story from here. But to use these characters again, producers will have to pull off a mighty feat to live up to the impact they had in the 3 originals, or you're looking at a massive flop.

Alternatively they could go before the prequels and follow Palpatine's early beginings as Sidious under the influence of Darth Plagueis which could be pretty cool. Plagueis is a nasty character and there would be a lot to go on. Yoda would be alive too. Be cool, that would :)
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Re: Star Wars Episode 7
« Reply #83 on: October 31, 2012, 01:11:24 am »
Bit off topic, but when the first Star Wars film was released was it at the time call Episode 4?
Well supposedly he wrote at least 6 films worth of story, but couldnt get the money to make it from ep one, so decided to make the 3rd part which was more action orientated and he could sell as a movie to the studio. Then the studio made the worst deal in the history of films,  toy deal, shit loads of money, autonomy, independence from the studio system, megalomania, a fat bullfrog neck and a funny little beard that was fooling nobody swiftly followed and the rest is history. Once he had the money he could go about retconning all he fucking liked.

Has to be said there might be some truth in it, because ep one should never have seen the light of day and if thats the story he pitched its no wonder they fucked him off all them years ago.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #84 on: October 31, 2012, 01:16:25 am »
I'd go with Del Toro purely because he has the visual style that would suit Star Wars so well and he likes to work in animatronics more than CGI.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #85 on: October 31, 2012, 01:24:33 am »
But doesn't this mean that Indiana Jones will also come under Disney's remit?

Zak McCraken and the Alien Mindbenders too, I'd imagine.
Paramount hold some rights to Indy and based on the article there are no plans by Disney to touch it. Yet.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #86 on: October 31, 2012, 01:28:19 am »
I'd go with Del Toro purely because he has the visual style that would suit Star Wars so well and he likes to work in animatronics more than CGI.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #87 on: October 31, 2012, 01:28:54 am »
Was initially annoyed at this, but now coming round.

If anyone can revamp star wars and make it great again, its disney.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2012, 01:29:31 am »
Knowing my luck they will give all three films to that sausage fingered meff hack Peter fucking Jackson.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2012, 01:36:29 am »
Better than Michael Bay. Just.
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« Reply #90 on: October 31, 2012, 01:39:13 am »
4 billion!!!

Drinks are on George! Also I heard he's got a gig as being an advisor also.

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« Reply #91 on: October 31, 2012, 01:52:43 am »
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/10/30/fox-retain-rights-to-all-existing-star-wars-films/

Ah well, don't get your hopes up for the original cut trilogy on BluRay just yet :(
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #92 on: October 31, 2012, 01:54:59 am »
Hopefully Disney can make a Star Wars film as good as John Carter.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #93 on: October 31, 2012, 01:58:09 am »
Hopefully Disney can make a Star Wars film as good as John Carter.
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Re: Star Wars Episode 7
« Reply #94 on: October 31, 2012, 03:03:54 am »
He should give every individual on the planet $0.57 to apologise for the prequels, and possibly Return Of The Jedi.
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Re: Star Wars Episode 7
« Reply #95 on: October 31, 2012, 04:50:36 am »
Star Wars 7 : The Search for More Money

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« Reply #96 on: October 31, 2012, 05:18:13 am »
Star Wars 7 : The Search for More Money

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Re: Star Wars Episode 7
« Reply #97 on: October 31, 2012, 05:22:21 am »
Excited about this. Time to right the wrongs.

Course, they'll probably just fuck it up some more.
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« Reply #98 on: October 31, 2012, 05:31:15 am »


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« Reply #99 on: October 31, 2012, 06:49:52 am »
Happy with this news, as long as Jar Jar Binks is nowhere to be seen, I will be happy.  They have such a massive universe to work with, I think they can do something good.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #100 on: October 31, 2012, 06:56:16 am »
Hope we might get some good new Star Wars based RPG games as well.

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« Reply #101 on: October 31, 2012, 07:42:58 am »
Talking of games, Disney should get cracking on a new Star Wars Battlefront game. They would rake in a shit load of money with it. Was one of the best games around.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #102 on: October 31, 2012, 07:51:45 am »
I'm assuming they'll be going on with the story line from the books with a few popular fan fiction add-in's.. i hope anyway.

I can't see how Disney can make them any worse than George has in the new 3, he finally came to his sense's and got rid of his best creation for someone to make it that much better. he was killing it. I agree maybe we'll get a few good games now, Jedi Academy has to be my favorite and i don't even think that was made by Lucasarts.
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #103 on: October 31, 2012, 08:46:34 am »
Flogging a dead wookie? Disney have the clout to revitalise the series, talent permitting...

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #104 on: October 31, 2012, 09:13:59 am »
yeah, true. I do wonder if he's seen that review, though. It's more or less the most scathing and analytical dissection of a film out there. I personally think it's a good thing they're having another crack at 3 new films. It needed to be done, if only to banish those other 3 terrible efforts from memory.

Have you got a link to it, would love to read it if its that good?
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« Reply #105 on: October 31, 2012, 09:29:32 am »
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« Reply #106 on: October 31, 2012, 09:33:22 am »
a sneak peak of episode 7


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« Reply #107 on: October 31, 2012, 09:41:50 am »
Nolan, and going dark, would be a terrible choice for Star Wars. You need a light touch, the same tone as Whedon's Avengers.

Brad Bird or Del Toro would be my first picks. The 2015 release date makes me think they must have approached/interviewed people already as well. All of the Marvel people are booked up for the next 5 years or something so it's not going to be Whedon.

It was very much a tongue in cheek comment. Didn't hurt 'Empire Strikes Back' being a little dark though!

As long as they don't do pointless CGI, get in someone who can write a script and make sure Lucas is nowhere near the set then I'm sure it'll be a vast improvement anyway.

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« Reply #108 on: October 31, 2012, 09:42:30 am »
Will they really get someone half-decent to do it though?

as evidenced by 1-3, they can do any old shit and still make a killing, what's their real incentive?

I used to love star wars as a kid. There was great anticipation for the Phantom Menace, I was working at the cinema and my colleagues stole the advance poster and made a grand from it. I saw it and instantly deflated, the other two weren't much better, ruined the whole thing for me.

even the original trilogy, looking back, is like the LOTR books - about one and a half good books worth and a load of extra guff.

Can't we just have some new ideas, instead of having our swollen nostalgia teats milked?
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« Reply #109 on: October 31, 2012, 09:44:21 am »
Have you got a link to it, would love to read it if its that good?

They're video reviews and very very long. 70mins for Phantom Menace but well worth watching.

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« Reply #110 on: October 31, 2012, 09:56:00 am »
Can't we just have some new ideas, instead of having our swollen nostalgia teats milked?
It's not quite nostalgia that's seen such a flurry of sequels, prequels, re-boots and franchises. It's all about the money. Disney have put 4bn down because they know they can make that money back and much more by giving the paying what they want, ie. what the punters are already familiar with.

Having said that I don't think there's anybody even vaguely connected to the film industry who doesn't know how crushingly disappointing episodes I-III were; and how much more lucrative it would be if the films (characters, plot, dialogue) were actually any good.

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« Reply #111 on: October 31, 2012, 09:58:53 am »
use the forrrrrr billion dollars luke

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« Reply #112 on: October 31, 2012, 10:00:55 am »
It's not quite nostalgia that's seen such a flurry of sequels, prequels, re-boots and franchises. It's all about the money. Disney have put 4bn down because they know they can make that money back and much more by giving the paying what they want, ie. what the punters are already familiar with.

Having said that I don't think there's anybody even vaguely connected to the film industry who doesn't know how crushingly disappointing episodes I-III were; and how much more lucrative it would be if the films (characters, plot, dialogue) were actually any good.

True, poor to mediocre I-III brought in a lot of money indeed, Disney must be aware that good to great films would have brought in both far more money, a new loyal fanbase that would have lapped up any new content (offshoots/direct sequels).

They know that if they do a good job with resurrecting it then they will have an absolutely huge revenue stream here, or a massive one even if they just stick with as is.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #113 on: October 31, 2012, 10:02:41 am »
Are Disney and George Lucas Hiding Something?
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There are only a few reasons why, if you're Disney, you announce that you're buying George Lucas's film studio for $4 billion today, in the middle of an impenetrable news cycle surrounding a major natural disaster, and when U.S. stock markets are closed:

1. You want to cheer up the citizens of storm-damaged cities on the East Coast by giving them a new Star Wars film to look forward to.

2. You were going to announce the deal this week anyway, and somewhat callously decided not to delay the release just because Hurricane Sandy happened.

3. The deal is a financial dud, and you want to get the news out with minimum scrutiny.

Based on what little we know of the finances of Lucasfilm (which was private, and 100 percent owned by George Lucas, until today), I'm guessing that something closer to option 3 is happening.

George Lucas, now 68 years old and entering the twilight of a long and successful career, clearly had incentives to sell out. He'll get half of the $4 billion purchase in cash, and will be able to hand the Star Wars franchise over to Disney, who will have the energy and the wherewithal to milk it for all it's worth. (On a conference call today, Disney executives said they planned to release a new Star Wars movie every two to three years, beginning in 2015.) Disney will also get the Indiana Jones franchise out of the deal.

Compared to its other acquisitions (most notably, its 2006 purchase of Pixar for $7.4 billion), Disney is buying LucasFilm for a steal. And at a glance, $4 billion does look low for an iconic movie series. Earlier this year, 24/7 Wall Street ran some back-of-envelope calculations and estimated that the Star Wars franchise alone was worth upwards of $30 billion.

But there's no way a $30 billion valuation is even remotely accurate, given that George Lucas was willing to sell his entire company for roughly one-eighth of that.

It's true that Star Wars has sold many, many billions of dollars worth of merchandise, video games, movie tickets, and licenses. But Disney isn't buying LucasFilm for what Star Wars has already made — it's buying it based on what it believes the franchise can earn in the future. And that is much, much less certain.

Disney called Star Wars an "evergreen" media property today. But the prospect of keeping the Star Wars series going ad infinitum, and expanding it to regions and age groups in which it isn't already well known or loved, is far from a sure bet with consumers. It essentially amounts to wagering that die-hards will continue to flock to anything with the Star Wars name on it, while also betting that new movies will draw a younger generation that didn't grow up on Millenium Falcon references.

Disney can't rely on old intellectual property — it needs Lucasfilm to keep throwing off cash to justify its $4 billion price tag. But with aging cultural cachet (the first Star Wars came out 35 years ago) and a consumer base that has lots of other popular franchises clamoring for its attention, it's hard to think that the marketing machine of a decade ago can keep chugging along at pace. As this chart from Box Office Mojo points out, recent Star Wars movies (adjusted for ticket price inflation) have generally underperformed older ones. Why would newer versions, released by Disney, fare any better?
George Lucas, who has seen the Star Wars franchise go from revered cultural touchstone to virtual punchline, may have accepted a lowball bid in an effort to wash his hands of the series altogether. But I doubt it. We won't know for sure until Disney reports LucasFilm's financials, but it seems to me that Lucas may have gotten the better deal here.

If Disney can't keep a parade of Star Wars sequels from suffering diminishing returns, its "evergreen" acquisition may be more like a wilting flower. And if Disney knows it overpaid, or even senses it might have, then burying the news makes all the sense in the world.

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« Reply #114 on: October 31, 2012, 10:10:10 am »
As this chart from Box Office Mojo points out, recent Star Wars movies (adjusted for ticket price inflation) have generally underperformed older ones. Why would newer versions, released by Disney, fare any better?
George Lucas, who has seen the Star Wars franchise go from revered cultural touchstone to virtual punchline, may have accepted a lowball bid in an effort to wash his hands of the series altogether.

Haven't they answered their own question here? Lucas is the reason why Star Wars isn't revered any more. His constant fiddling with it, the prequels awful storylines, dialogue and obsession with CGI, and everything else he does with it.

Once he's out of the equation and a new talented director and writer/writing team are in place then Disney are potentially onto a winner out of the gate. One great new film will get a whole new audience in place and drag in the old guard.

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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #115 on: October 31, 2012, 10:15:59 am »
To be fair, Disney bought Marvel 3 or 4 years ago and have completely revitalised every single property of theirs that they've produced as a motion picture.

Yes absolutely.


The corporate nature of these takeovers is not a good story. But with better, younger directors it should be possible to make a good Star Wars film.

The bad news for me is that Joss Whedon is busy making Avengers 2 and JJ Abrams will be busy until next year on the Star Trek sequel.

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« Reply #116 on: October 31, 2012, 10:20:15 am »
The new movies underperformed because they are shit. Pure and simple.

Remove Lucas from the driving seat, the universe itself is prime for an absolutely brilliant new saga.

This will make a shit ton of cash.
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« Reply #117 on: October 31, 2012, 10:25:34 am »
Disney bought Pixar for 7+ billion?


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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #118 on: October 31, 2012, 10:34:31 am »
If you like these kind of movies look at Summer 2015:

The Justice League
The Avengers 2
Avatar 2
Star Wars Episode 7

Can the box office sustain it?
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Re: Disney buying 'Star Wars' maker Lucasfilm for $4.05B
« Reply #119 on: October 31, 2012, 10:49:37 am »
What would the seventh film be based on? Original material or the expanded universe?

Based on the Canon and what Lucas said in the 80/90s it would be the rebuilding of the Republic and Luke becoming a Jedi Master - Luke's kids and Lea/Solo's all become jedi and some of them being dark lords.. So lots of places they could go.