Author Topic: Youth and Under 23 Thread (Read 12290388 times)

4pool · « **Reply #99120 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:01:36 pm »

Funny seeing the Everton side walk out with Liverpool kitted out mascots as do the Liverpool team...

4pool · « **Reply #99121 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:03:20 pm »

And here we go..

Come on you mini Reds..

4pool · « **Reply #99122 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:11:01 pm »

1-0 Everton

dimwit · « **Reply #99123 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:12:34 pm »

There really was nothing Kelleher could do

4pool · « **Reply #99124 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:13:08 pm »

Evertons right back sends a ball through the goal area and the left back on the far post scores.

dimwit · « **Reply #99125 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:13:52 pm »

Horrible misskick from woodburn

dimwit · « **Reply #99126 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:15:16 pm »

everton close to score again, Kelleher sees the ball rolling wide of the post

dimwit · « **Reply #99127 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:18:32 pm »

Unimpressing freekick for Everton, Hoever and Camacho don't connect in the counter

dimwit · « **Reply #99128 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:22:08 pm »

Woodburn shot after Hoevers pass

Strong as a kitten pawing you in the nose.

dimwit · « **Reply #99129 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:26:55 pm »

Missed chance for Hoever, blasted that shot

(this is why I don't do commentary, I get lost in the game..)

4pool · « **Reply #99130 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:29:42 pm »

We're getting closer..

dimwit · « **Reply #99131 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:30:38 pm »

Camacho and Lewis combine in the left side, threathening, but eventually miles off target

reddebs · « **Reply #99132 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:32:55 pm »

Always disjointed when the teams thrown together from whoever's available but that's the nature of the u23s.

We're getting better though.

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dimwit · « **Reply #99133 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:36:51 pm »

Commentators claiming Klopp is watching the game, no visual evidence though

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #99134 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:36:54 pm »

Quote from: Bergersleftpeg on February 26, 2019, 10:27:37 pm

It sure is. Logically, by his definition there can only be one world-class goalkeeper at any given time.

Just saw this - you can have 20+ players on a squad, you know

But my definition is simple - a world class player (or manager, or anything) is one who every single team would like on their books as a starting player. So, Emre Can isn't world class, for example, because there are a lot of teams who wouldn't have any use for his limitations. Lionel Messi, peak Suarez, both Ronaldos, Figo, Xabi Alonso, DeGea, Becker, Wambach, Ancelotti, Guardiola, etc. - these are all players and managers who every single team would look at and go "yeah we would love to have them here"

That's my definition of "World Class"

4pool · « **Reply #99135 on:** March 4, 2019, 07:38:29 pm »

Everton playing 4-4-2

Liverpool 4-3-3

Lee1-6Liv · « **Reply #99136 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:11:18 pm »

Poor sportsmanship there not putting the ball out.

cdav · « **Reply #99137 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:17:17 pm »

How is that not a free kick and red card for the foul on Woodburn, really poor and high tackle

Lee1-6Liv · « **Reply #99138 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:17:54 pm »

Should be a red card for Everton there.

KingKolo · « **Reply #99139 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:21:22 pm »

There's talk of Adam Lewis stepping up to be Robbo's deputy next season.
Can't say he looks up to it on tonight's showing, sad to say.

reddebs · « **Reply #99140 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:22:40 pm »

Yard dog behaviour begins at nursery age for the bitters so expecting fair play/tackles from them is delusion at its finest.

And that's one hell of a save!! And another one. Wtf ya doing lads!!!!

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jillcwhomever · « **Reply #99141 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:31:00 pm »

Quote from: reddebs on March 4, 2019, 08:22:40 pm

Yard dog behaviour begins at nursery age for the bitters so expecting fair play/tackles from them is delusion at its finest.

And that's one hell of a save!! And another one. Wtf ya doing lads!!!!

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They always were a dirty side some of those junior derbies would have shocking tackles in them. Isn't this a new formation for the lads, also a very young side from what I can make out. It also has to be stressed this Everton side stay together all the time, so they're a settled side. Looks like McCauley is coming on.

reddebs · « **Reply #99142 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:36:47 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 4, 2019, 08:31:00 pm

They always were a dirty side some of those junior derbies would have shocking tackles in them. Isn't this a new formation for the lads, also a very young side from what I can make out. It also has to be stressed this Everton side stay together all the time, so they're a settled side. Looks like McCauley is coming on.

Yeah they've never been any different, certainly for the 10yrs or so that I've been watching academy football.

The team's a mish mash really, players who've not been involved for a while and it's just not clicked.

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jillcwhomever · « **Reply #99143 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:41:13 pm »

These officials are a joke how many times have those Everton defenders grabbed hold of our shirts in the penalty area.

Lee1-6Liv · « **Reply #99144 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:49:14 pm »

2-0 Everton, they deserve it, created the best chances. I don't think their keeper has had to make a save.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #99145 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:50:47 pm »

Camacho should have done better with his run. Took too long to take the shot.

reddebs · « **Reply #99146 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:52:28 pm »

We're just not on it tonight, they look far more organised and prepared than we do.

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jillcwhomever · « **Reply #99147 on:** March 4, 2019, 08:54:46 pm »

Quote from: reddebs on March 4, 2019, 08:52:28 pm

We're just not on it tonight, they look far more organised and prepared than we do.

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They play together on a regular basis which is why they are top of the league. Shame some of them haven't done better with Klopp being there.

reddebs · « **Reply #99148 on:** March 4, 2019, 09:03:28 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 4, 2019, 08:54:46 pm

They play together on a regular basis which is why they are top of the league. Shame some of them haven't done better with Klopp being there.

Agreed Jill and yes it shows.

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PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #99149 on:** March 5, 2019, 06:58:53 pm »

Not sure if this was posted, but a very good interview with Inglethorpe, that repeats and confirms some things I've been saying in here. Interesting bit about Michael Owen, Klopp being a mad bastard on and off the camera, the youth ranks being almost a meat market, and the value of having a manager who believes in youth:

https://www.coachesvoice.com/liverpool-academy-director-on-jurgen-klopp/?fbclid=IwAR1ud7tjcd4KWfjFdHS95KL-v0K7iwbQExZGXH5I1NNnXwoKoEzFIGLwvK8

Chris~ · « **Reply #99150 on:** March 5, 2019, 07:36:09 pm »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on March 5, 2019, 06:58:53 pm

Not sure if this was posted, but a very good interview with Inglethorpe, that repeats and confirms some things I've been saying in here. Interesting bit about Michael Owen, Klopp being a mad bastard on and off the camera, the youth ranks being almost a meat market, and the value of having a manager who believes in youth:

https://www.coachesvoice.com/liverpool-academy-director-on-jurgen-klopp/?fbclid=IwAR1ud7tjcd4KWfjFdHS95KL-v0K7iwbQExZGXH5I1NNnXwoKoEzFIGLwvK8

Can tell he worked with Rodgers. Awful lot of character talk

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #99151 on:** March 5, 2019, 07:39:47 pm »

Quote from: Chris~ on March 5, 2019, 07:36:09 pm

Can tell he worked with Rodgers. Awful lot of character talk

They're both clearly "method" actors

RayPhilAlan · « **Reply #99152 on:** March 5, 2019, 07:46:34 pm »

Thanks Pop, that's a really interesting account.

I found this bit near the end particularly interesting:

"Both those things [support by management and by owners] have helped to create an academy that is built on stronger foundations. One that I think will be more self-sufficient in the years to come. We’re getting better at what we do with the younger ages, which means the need to recruit at the age of 15, 16, 17 is going to decrease. "

Does that mean he thinks we're getting better at spotting players when they're younger, and bringing them to Liverpool, or that we're better at training the players from younger ages, so there's no need to bring in other players at 15 or so?

PhaseOfPlay · « **Reply #99153 on:** March 5, 2019, 07:53:00 pm »

Quote from: RayPhilAlan on March 5, 2019, 07:46:34 pm

Thanks Pop, that's a really interesting account.

I found this bit near the end particularly interesting:

"Both those things [support by management and by owners] have helped to create an academy that is built on stronger foundations. One that I think will be more self-sufficient in the years to come. We’re getting better at what we do with the younger ages, which means the need to recruit at the age of 15, 16, 17 is going to decrease. "

Does that mean he thinks we're getting better at spotting players when they're younger, and bringing them to Liverpool, or that we're better at training the players from younger ages, so there's no need to bring in other players at 15 or so?

Probably a bit of both, but as it's a coaching website, I'd say he's probably talking more about training.

dakid · « **Reply #99154 on:** March 5, 2019, 09:22:29 pm »

Curtis Jones seems to be having a quiet season for the u23s on paper anyway. How has he been playing for those of you that have watched the games?

KingKolo · « **Reply #99155 on:** March 5, 2019, 11:51:47 pm »

Quote from: PhaseOfPlay on March 5, 2019, 06:58:53 pm

Not sure if this was posted, but a very good interview with Inglethorpe, that repeats and confirms some things I've been saying in here. Interesting bit about Michael Owen, Klopp being a mad bastard on and off the camera, the youth ranks being almost a meat market, and the value of having a manager who believes in youth:

https://www.coachesvoice.com/liverpool-academy-director-on-jurgen-klopp/?fbclid=IwAR1ud7tjcd4KWfjFdHS95KL-v0K7iwbQExZGXH5I1NNnXwoKoEzFIGLwvK8

I hadn't spotted that. Really interesting, cheers for posting!

Chris~ · « **Reply #99156 on:** March 6, 2019, 03:26:35 pm »

Really good preview for tonights youth cup game

https://burymeinexile.com/2019/03/05/bury-u18s-vs-liverpool-u18s-preview/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Also seems to suggest Bright Amoateng is only on trial there and could be back next season.

HopefulRed · « **Reply #99157 on:** March 6, 2019, 07:26:20 pm »

Quote from: Chris~ on March 6, 2019, 03:26:35 pm

Really good preview for tonights youth cup game

Also seems to suggest Bright Amoateng is only on trial there and could be back next season.

But isn’t it the case that when they’re on trial at that age group it’s because either because they’ve been told that that they’re either being released or that their game time in the first year of U18s is likely to be limited because of others ahead of them? Or possibly because they want to move somewhere nearer to home. The first possibility would be a little strange I think because Glatzeland Duncan will move up to U21s next season, leaving only Fidel and Bearne. Presumably we’re not overloaded with great strikers in the current U16s or we might have heard a bit about them by now?

Incidentally, I think it is poor that the match is not on lfc tv or tvgo.

JP-65 · « **Reply #99158 on:** March 6, 2019, 07:41:39 pm »

1-0 for the good guys, Glatzel

JP-65 · « **Reply #99159 on:** March 6, 2019, 07:44:04 pm »

2-0 Cain