Author Topic: Steve McManaman - Legend or big time charlie???????? (Read 67005 times)

Peeker · « **Reply #160 on:** August 13, 2007, 04:51:29 pm »

Absolutely fuckin spot on.

Macca was a fantastic player for us in a very barren period for us and the club in general.

Not sure about being a legend, but he was an excellent player and would walk into our team in his 1995-96 form, and we still havent replaced him. The fact that Igor fucking Biscan is held in higher esteem than Steve McManaman says a lot about the intelligence of some fans.

BootleRed · « **Reply #161 on:** August 13, 2007, 05:09:17 pm »

The lad was decent for us but i'm afraid the word legend is banded about far too often these days and he certainly is NOT one.
Judging by the general feeling on here there may not be many viewers for the "MACCA SHOW" on setanta 1 at 7pm tonight then

Steele_uk · « **Reply #162 on:** August 13, 2007, 05:15:01 pm »

Quote from: DosyMickKeane on August 13, 2007, 02:54:23 pm

No, not from a player that once held the premiership record for consecutive appearnaces. Never missed a league game in nearly 5 seasons.

What has that got to do with giving 100%?

I am not questioning his attendance, and i am not arguing that the man had talent, but he didnt always put in the effort and fight that WOULD have turned him into a 'great' player.

Alf Garnett! · « **Reply #163 on:** August 13, 2007, 05:54:58 pm »

A good friend of mine is best buddies with Macca (and Robbie).

What i know of Macca & everything my mate says is all good.

LFC-Dan · « **Reply #164 on:** August 13, 2007, 05:57:03 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeMucUA5wRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFc9frXRAHg

Few vids to refresh the memories there.

Certainly not a legend but good back in the day, still don't think we've had anyone with that much pace on the wings since though.

redpride9 · « **Reply #165 on:** August 13, 2007, 06:07:43 pm »

great player...

complete knob... talks crap...

nayia2002 · « **Reply #166 on:** August 13, 2007, 06:19:06 pm »

never liked the guy even as a footballer!!

BIGdavalad · « **Reply #167 on:** August 13, 2007, 06:25:22 pm »

Quote from: nayia2002 on August 13, 2007, 06:19:06 pm

never liked the guy even as a footballer!!

Oh aye, we were always far better off when Leonhardsen played. Or McAteer.

Cruiser · « **Reply #168 on:** August 13, 2007, 06:46:29 pm »

Loved him as a player, was one of my favourites during my teens.

Legend? No.

Bitter c*nt? Maybe.

alfonso · « **Reply #169 on:** August 13, 2007, 06:49:47 pm »

I didn't think he was fantastic for us.

But you could see his quality when he went to Madrid.

He is however an admitted Everton Twat and should be fucked off from the Legend's team.

He IS NOT a legend.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #170 on:** August 13, 2007, 07:09:10 pm »

Quote from: Peeker on August 13, 2007, 04:51:29 pm

Absolutely fuckin spot on.

Macca was a fantastic player for us in a very barren period for us and the club in general.

Not sure about being a legend, but he was an excellent player and would walk into our team in his 1995-96 form, and we still havent replaced him. The fact that Igor fucking Biscan is held in higher esteem than Steve McManaman says a lot about the intelligence of some fans.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grifter · « **Reply #171 on:** August 13, 2007, 07:15:24 pm »

Quote from: Sarah B on August 13, 2007, 03:18:28 pm

Redknapp and that annoying whiny cockney voice on every single game is staring to get on my nerves. He's only on because he's a decent looking lad.

Spot on, the bastard is begining to grate on me. Every time the footie is on, fucking he's on stating the obvious.
He has his hands in this position 95% of the time he gases, if he does it again I'm going to boot the fucking telly in.

Maca - great player, but comes across as a cocky twat, not that I know him.

sean70 · « **Reply #172 on:** August 13, 2007, 07:24:42 pm »

Big time Charlie, 1 of the English Prems 1st manufactured footballers, Beckham came after him, limited abilty just flashy moves and the odd goal curtisy of being in a good team and protected by modern whistle happy refs. DONT EVEN MENSION HIM IN THE SAME BREATH AS DALGLISH/BARNES/FOWLER/KEEGAN/GERRARD. The guys a knob simple as!

Ron · « **Reply #173 on:** August 13, 2007, 07:32:29 pm »

Quote from: shangtsung on August 13, 2007, 11:58:53 am

Owen is definitely NOT a Liverpool legend.

You've decided that in all your wisdom, have you ?
Than you can bring that FA cup to Highbury (mind you, it's called different now), legend !

voodoo ray · « **Reply #174 on:** August 13, 2007, 07:48:29 pm »

Michael Owen? Legend?

Bahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa

Sorry I need to go lie down to get over that.

Life · « **Reply #175 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:03:03 pm »

Quote from: A Day 2 Remember on August 13, 2007, 04:16:13 pm

Lets ask this simple question. Out of the two, who would you want in our current squad.

Barnes or Macca

Barnes in my opinion is a true legend and in comparing the two it becomes evident that Macca cannot be considered a legend.

Are you an idiot?

Rome 84 · « **Reply #176 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:06:15 pm »

I think you'll find Macca is a legend in Madrid.
Had he been surrounded by top class players at Anfield he might now be seen in the same light on Merseyside.

Reeves · « **Reply #177 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:11:58 pm »

Our best player for about 3 seasons. Robbie on a par.

How many players have actually been man marked by the opposition! Remember "stop macca and stop lfc" ? 352 with him in the hole.

Excellent player.

campioni1984 · « **Reply #178 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:28:22 pm »

He got butted by Gary Neville. :lmaoThats all you need to know.Cockend.

neopulian · « **Reply #179 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:36:02 pm »

He was a legend in the days we didn't have much to cheer about. The way he left clouded the judgment of some of the fans, but in his heighdays, he was no worse than Giggs or Figo.

Joe Rogans Chin · « **Reply #180 on:** August 13, 2007, 10:58:27 pm »

Quote from: sean70 on August 13, 2007, 07:24:42 pm

Big time Charlie, 1 of the English Prems 1st manufactured footballers, Beckham came after him, limited abilty just flashy moves and the odd goal curtisy of being in a good team and protected by modern whistle happy refs. DONT EVEN MENSION HIM IN THE SAME BREATH AS DALGLISH/BARNES/FOWLER/KEEGAN/GERRARD. The guys a knob simple as!

Quote from: campioni1984 on August 13, 2007, 08:28:22 pm

He got butted by Gary Neville. :lmaoThats all you need to know.Cockend.

A Day 2 Remember · « **Reply #181 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:08:45 pm »

If you look at the whole spice boys era it is very easy to understand why these young, extremely rich, very famous and adoured lads went off the rails on occasion. All of a sudden footballers as young as 19/20 were making CFO money, the media was going crazy with the whole SKY bollox and Liverpool was in the middle of a drug and club craze.

Most people who have the personality of a sports person would have had some issues with the above. If the management had been more strict ala whiskey nose maybe they could have handled the situation. Considering the above I think they all did well to entertain us and provide moments of natural ecstasy.

Emlyn18 · « **Reply #182 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:47:42 pm »

Deffo not a legend imo.

WillieBob · « **Reply #183 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:50:18 pm »

No way a legend, but by the same token no way a Big Time Charlie. However, if I were pressed to put him into one camp or the other it would have to be the BTC camp.

Curva Nord '77 · « **Reply #184 on:** August 14, 2007, 12:32:51 am »

Quote from: The Infamous_LFC on August 12, 2007, 10:19:46 pm

Don't like him as a person seems very annoying.

As a player I loved him though bought light to the days of gloom him and Robbie did.

Pain in the arse that walked out on the club.

Gobshite.

Stan. · « **Reply #185 on:** August 14, 2007, 12:44:22 am »

Not interested in what he's paid to say these days, I judge red's players the only way they should be - on the pitch. Growing up in 90's, for me he was brilliant. Can't be arsed with any bitterness, I watch Liverpool for the football.

4pool · « **Reply #186 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:27:22 am »

btw..

Macca's Monday Night show is on setanta here in the USA. Tonight was on from 7:45 -8:15 pm eastern.

berrno3333 · « **Reply #187 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:56:21 am »

The goal at Celtic will always live in my mind.
Never a legend but a scorer of a legendary goal which he repeated but i cant remember who against.

gritsvanilla · « **Reply #188 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:57:39 am »

Quote from: DosyMickKeane on August 13, 2007, 02:51:03 pm

Ian Callaghan would get no where near a greatest Liverpool 11, he's a legend.
Same applies to Billy Liddel, most people name Rush, King Kenny, fowler & even Keegan ahead of him, he's still a legend.

Even so, I'm struggling to think of 2 better right wingers than Mcmanaman, IMO he's not far off the greatest Liverpoll 11, as has been pointed out, he's never been replaced.
With a club as great as ours, with the many great players that have played for us, being in the all time 11, shouldn't and isn't a barometer for legendary status.

Cally was Shanklys fave player and a supremely underrated midfielder who had just about everything, been watching a lot of the old stuff of late and Cally really shines i'd almost forgotten just how unbelievably good he was, i think he'd at least get a place on the bench in any Best Liverpool team ever.

As for Macca, good player but never struck me as truly great, couldn't care less about the fall out from his bosman i'm judging him by his performances and too often (particularly against the big sides) he went missing, along with Redknapp he seemed to me to sum up all that was wrong about Evans' sides....all style with very little substance, looked good but the end result was just not good enough.

BTW Anyone questioning Graeme Souness' legend status needs their head checking, simply put he is still the Greatest CM this club has ever had and no amount of crap management and selling stories to the sun is gonna change that.

Kess73 · « **Reply #189 on:** August 14, 2007, 09:01:27 am »

A good player, who sometimes played like a very good player. A legend though? Not even in this era of throwaway titles.

Cannot stand him as a pundit though.

Kess73 · « **Reply #190 on:** August 14, 2007, 09:04:18 am »

Quote from: gritsvanilla on August 14, 2007, 01:57:39 am

BTW Anyone questioning Graeme Souness' legend status needs their head checking, simply put he is still the Greatest CM this club has ever had and no amount of crap management and selling stories to the sun is gonna change that.

Could not agree more. Souness was an awesome midfielder, he had the lot. We have not had a cm of his quality since he left. Stevie can only dream of being as good as Souness was.

Jonno · « **Reply #191 on:** August 14, 2007, 09:19:05 am »

Quote from: berrno3333 on August 14, 2007, 01:56:21 am

The goal at Celtic will always live in my mind.
Never a legend but a scorer of a legendary goal which he repeated but i cant remember who against.

Aston Villa, the very next week after the Celtic Goal... Almost a carbon copy of it.

elrojoyoda · « **Reply #192 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:03:53 am »

Quote from: Armin on August 12, 2007, 10:34:35 pm

I imagine his training regime per hour went something like:

Pointy finger gesture - 30 mins
Hair swipe apologetic aknowledgement - 20 mins
Footy training - 10 mins

Still, in full flight it was a great sight to watch him ghost past players. I don't think he earned the title legend, its too easily bestowed, but he was a big part of a very attractive Liverpool side.

at the training regime

Agreed with the rest...

Most of our ex players turned pundits who are classed as legends - do my head in, so am not surprised at McManaman being the same... Not yet seen him on Setanta yet!

mikeb58 · « **Reply #193 on:** August 14, 2007, 12:25:02 pm »

A legend ? ....no way, thought he was a very frustrating player at times, who didn't score enough goals.

Once he left the club, he was one of those players that I wasn't arsed about what he did or said. That applies to most of our players when they leave, they just don't interest me anymore.

Not really seen much of him as a pundit, most of them talk shite anyway, so I wouldn't worry about his ( or any of the others) opinions.

berrno3333 · « **Reply #194 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:53:38 pm »

Quote from: Jonno on August 14, 2007, 09:19:05 am

Aston Villa, the very next week after the Celtic Goal... Almost a carbon copy of it.

,
Another beauty.Cheers mate

Kite · « **Reply #195 on:** August 14, 2007, 05:08:21 pm »

Was nothing short of brilliant for us. But I think he left a little too early to be given the legend tag and he also left on a free. That still sticks with me.

Being a local bred lad the club deserved something back from him and he basically buggered off and we got nothing for him.

Craigeth · « **Reply #196 on:** August 14, 2007, 05:11:06 pm »

He was a great player who i admired a lot until he fucked us over the way he left. Have great memories of him as a player but he will now always be remembered by me for leaving the way he did, a shame really.

Alf · « **Reply #197 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:00:28 pm »

McManaman was a good player for us but he fucked off and left on a free. He never seems very complimentary when I read anything in the media he's said about us.

wearethepeople · « **Reply #198 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:33:20 pm »

looks like a bloo nose, probably smells like a bloo nose. Pseudo intellectual who thinks he has something worth listening to. He believes he is a legend. He isn't, he is an out and out twat. Football wise, probably above average but he fucked that up by thinking he was one of our 'greats'. No chance the cheeky bloo nose bastard. I proper hate him.

Wait for it!!! · « **Reply #199 on:** August 14, 2007, 10:48:15 pm »

Quote from: wearethepeople on August 14, 2007, 10:33:20 pm

looks like a bloo nose, probably smells like a bloo nose. Pseudo intellectual who thinks he has something worth listening to. He believes he is a legend. He isn't, he is an out and out twat. Football wise, probably above average but he fucked that up by thinking he was one of our 'greats'. No chance the cheeky bloo nose bastard. I proper hate him.

A Blue YES, A smart Arse YES Won us nothing (apart from a few small cups YES Look at his position in the Telegraph Fantasy League Not Very good YES.
I work with a Manchester City fan who despises him after he went to sort out insurance for the players at the ground and he was the snottiest little turd he's ever seen etc etc etc.

Having said that he carried us for a good 2 years when the rest of the team was shite!!!