Topic: Formula One - The 2023 Season

[El Lobo]

Please dont be shit!

[Qston]

Who is going to mention sandbagging first ? Oh, just did it.

Really like the Merc livery. I just hope their computer analytics doesn`t fuck up like last year. I was starting to get irritated with comments about the computer testing didn`t show up the porpoising etc.

[Graeme]

Car launches nowadays are just livery reveals aren’t they? I’d be surprised if any of these cars look exactly the same in terms of aerodynamic appearance come testing.

[IgorBobbins]

Noz Hyde is definitely designing some of these liveries.

[TepidT2O]

Car launches nowadays are just livery reveals aren’t they? I’d be surprised if any of these cars look exactly the same in terms of aerodynamic appearance come testing.

Maybe, but there’s only one testing session and it’s only for three days, so I don’t imagine there’s going to be too many rabbits pulled from hats…. And that Mercedes has clearly changed

[clinical]

Anyone but Red Bull please.

[paulrazor]

Anyone but Red Bull please.

and or Max

I dont mind Perez tbf

[TepidT2O]

Ok, so the nose seems quite a lot shorter…and there appear to be two small channels going down the side (more grooves really)


It’s like a mini version of what Ferrari have

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Can see they've set the air inlets further back and higher. Most of the good stuff is happening where we can't see (venturi tunnels) and where the extra air tunnel time should pay off.

[TepidT2O]

Interesting that in some photos there is a strut but not in others..

[jillcwhomever]

This looks interesting a Formula 1 documentary on the relationship between Villeneuve and Pironi.


https://youtu.be/hm61kb5F5W8

[TepidT2O]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.tech-analysis-mercedes-stick-to-their-guns-on-unique-sidepod-design-with-new.3mk8c8ec2hThECsxtusEdm.html
This is also interesting…. They think the problems they had last year were mainly mechanical. So they’ve new rear suspension to allow a wider range of settings and to avoid the hyper hard suspension they sometimes had to run.
Also, there’s shits with the car having no engine louvres at all…. Which would be totally unique (but probably not at hot races).

[50 Pence]

Much prefer the Merc`s black livery to the silver. Looks nice , let's just hope it's fast & RB doesn't run away with the titles again

[voodoo ray]

I didn't realise there's an additional compound of tyre this year. Ted will be gutted because he hates "tyre chat"

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.pirelli-confirm-tyre-choices-for-first-three-f1-races-of-2023-as-new.1xlpcTVaLqw0NeM3aYoyCt.html

[TepidT2O]

A harder medium basically

[paulrazor]

not much of a change there

the c2, 3, 4 and 5 still the same?

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Alpine looks a mixture. Not as scooped out under the side pods but has a groove on the top. Their louvers are set quite high.

[Tobez]

I'm not sure what 'Louvers' are but I'm not a Mona, Lisa can do is ask. So what are they?

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

I'm not sure what 'Louvers' are but I'm not a Mona, Lisa can do is ask. So what are they?

To be fair, it’s a word they only started using last year for air vents on the body work that look like shark gills.

[Tobez]

To be fair, it’s a word they only started using last year for air vents on the body work that look like shark gills.

All that effort on a world-class pun and all get is the information I actually asked for.

Thanks...I guess

[CaseRed]

All that effort on a world-class pun and all get is the information I actually asked for.

Thanks...I guess

World Class is a stretch. 3/5!

[bradders1011]

Now all the liveries are out, best to worst:

1. Merc W14 - A stone-cold classic. The beautiful black livery from before and I love the flourescent Petronas colour detail.

2. Alfa Romeo C43 - Really aggressive-looking - black suits it much better than white

3. Aston Martin AMR23 - Racing Green is always a great colour

4. Ferrari SF23 - If this wins, it'll become a legend in this scheme

5. RBR RB19 - Same as usual, but it's a great livery to begin with and by now it's as recognisable as JPS, Marlboro or Camel

6. Alpine A523 - Would prefer less pink, but they make it work somehow

7. Haas VF-23 - Meh, midfield, defined by the sponsor

8. Williams FW45 - Meh. Every Williams livery since they lost Martini & Rexona has been a GP2 livery, with the possible exception of the white-blue fade Rokit livery (2019?)

9. McLaren MCL60 - Far, far too much going on. If you're going with Google sponsorship, embrace Google's 4-colour pallette, don't shotgun it all over your signature papaya.

10. Alpha Tauri AT04 - The white and blue ATs have been very well put-together. The red on this is so out of place, it's jarring.

[bradders1011]

Oh, and all I ask is a consistent naming convention for all cars.

[jackh]

Now all the liveries are out, best to worst:

I'm actually a big fan of that Alpha Tauri - they've had a nice 'base' for a couple of years and I think the read 'pops' nicely.

Thought the Williams one from two (??) years ago was pure "GP2" as you put it - looked really out of step with the others on the grid.

[paulrazor]

Williams horrible compared to rest

Alpha Tauri last though is a joke

[voodoo ray]

I also quite like the alpha, but agree the Williams is a bit f2. I think that's down to its lack of sponsors though as much as anything.

[jillcwhomever]

Some great F1 documentaries on at the moment. The Jackie Stewart one was good as was the Ronnie Peterson one. Such a different time though with how close the drivers where, they would all fly over together when the American races were on. The downside was the cars were so dangerous the number of times Peterson had break failures was unbelievable. Some awful crashes in the documentary one of the worst ones, was the death of Roger Williamson and the heroic effort of David Purley to single handedly attempt to turn his car over, with a fire raging around him. Incredible bravery from Purley it earned him the George Medal. 😕

[TepidT2O]

Some great F1 documentaries on at the moment. The Jackie Stewart one was good as was the Ronnie Peterson one. Such a different time though with how close the drivers where, they would all fly over together when the American races were on. The downside was the cars were so dangerous the number of times Peterson had break failures was unbelievable. Some awful crashes in the documentary one of the worst ones, was the death of Roger Williamson and the heroic effort of David Purley to single handedly attempt to turn his car over, with a fire raging around him. Incredible bravery from Purley it earned him the George Medal. 😕

Stewart’s autobiography is a really good read.

He wouldn’t even have been a racing driver if he hadn’t been very dyslexic … funny World eh?

[jillcwhomever]

Stewart’s autobiography is a really good read.

He wouldn’t even have been a racing driver if he hadn’t been very dyslexic … funny World eh?

I think I heard him say that in an interview sometime as you say funny world indeed. The best thing about F1 now is the step forward in safety. It should never be taken for granted.

[Graeme]

Lance Stroll won’t take part in the pre-season test this week after an accident on his bike in training. Probably rode it into a wall.

[Qston]

Lance Stroll won’t take part in the pre-season test this week after an accident on his bike in training. Probably rode it into a wall.

And riding his dad's bike

[paulrazor]

Stewart’s autobiography is a really good read.

He wouldn’t even have been a racing driver if he hadn’t been very dyslexic … funny World eh?

read that many years ago. Cracking read

[Trump's tiny tiny hands]

Just watched the vid of McLaren’s track day at Bahrain today and thought the track looked extra dusty but soon realised they had blurred the floor of the car in some shots. The dust was clearly revealing too much around the floor of the car down the straights.

[bradders1011]

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Access code 68426961

[IgorBobbins]

Jeez. Micah Richards gets everywhere - there’s no escape - even F1 isn’t safe!

And who the hell is Yung Filly? I feel old.

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[paulrazor]

Jeez. Micah Richards gets everywhere - there’s no escape - even F1 isn’t safe!

And who the hell is Yung Filly? I feel old.

Jesus I feel like he is haunting me

He is like that simpsons episode when Mr Burns is trying to get Homer to give him back bobo the teddy, and he keeps running from channel to channel

Anyway hopefully he isnt in here

https://www.autosport.com/f1/live-text/f1-bahrain-pre-season-test-day-1-1118052/1118052/

live timing update of testing

   Leaderboard
Sainz, Ferrari, 1m33.253s - 30 laps
Verstappen, Red Bull, 1m33.593s - 31 laps
Albon, Williams, 1m33.671s - 22 laps
Zhou, Alfa Romeo, 1m33.723s - 21 laps
Hulkenberg, Haas, 1m34.787s - 26 laps
Gasly, Alpine, 1m34.822s - 24 laps
Russell, Mercedes, 1m36.776s - 21 laps
Tsunoda, AlphaTauri, 1m37.100s - 18 laps
Piastri, McLaren, 1m37.502s - 15 laps
Drugovich, Aston Martin, 1m37.719s - 7 laps

[Graeme]

Interesting times, that's 7 tenths up on the fastest time of Day 1 last year, and last year the fast times were set at the end of the session when it had significantly cooled down under the lights.

[paulrazor]

the times are usually quick in morning

when warmer in afternoon the teams tend to go on long runs

[Graeme]

Fastest times last year were set early evening at the end of the session

[paulrazor]

Fastest times last year were set early evening at the end of the session

didnt know that

Just recall for most part of me sending that link on for years that you would rarely see times drop in afternoon

I would have to say in current times, Williams probably running low, Merc sand bagging as always

Everyone else where I would expect them to be roughly