Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD 2023 - archived discussions about what’s offensive

[Aldo1988]

Isn't one of the main problems with us signing more players our squad size?   Isn't there a regulation on how many first team players we can register?  Won't be easy to offload Ox and Naby in this window unless we give them away.

[red mongoose]

Has looked good on the YouTube compilations I watched when he was linked a few months ago, about as much as I can add.

But he can run and tackle so instant improvement, get him in.

I'm all for it. Grab him and Thuram in this window for relative peanuts and jack shit for risk - the way values are going, we could sell them in summer for 100 million apiece.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I mean, if you believe that they can't see the evidence of their own eyes or the mountain of stats that tell us that the midfield is broken, ok, but I don't think so for a second. Which is why I assume we are buying a midfielder this window. Anything else is insanity, really. No way our manager and his team can't see what is happening every game. There's loyalty and there's ignoring reality.

Same owners that wouldn't buy a defender when we needed one though,maybe they think that we'll get lucky and our Keeper will again come to the rescue with a bicycle kick in the 93rd minute

[Aldo1988]

I'm all for it. Grab him and Thuram in this window for relative peanuts and jack shit for risk - the way values are going, we could sell them in summer for 100 million apiece.

Think we should go for the player that Benfica are after to replace Enzo, cut out the middle man.  Can't remember what his name was, but I think he was another Argentinian.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Isn't one of the main problems with us signing more players our squad size?   Isn't there a regulation on how many first team players we can register?  Won't be easy to offload Ox and Naby in this window unless we give them away.

How many have Chelsea got ?

[Aldo1988]

How many have Chelsea got ?

I would not like my club run the same way as Chelsea.

[rob1966]

Same owners that wouldn't buy a defender when we needed one though,maybe they think that we'll get lucky and our Keeper will again come to the rescue with a bicycle kick in the 93rd minute

Or the boss said no, I want Konate, I'll get by with what I've got rather than buy a player I don't want

[RedG13]

Some rumours about Juve looking to offload Rabiot and Mckennie,anyone think either of those would work for us?

https://fbref.com/en/players/01c3aff5/Weston-McKennie
https://fbref.com/en/players/8794e251/Adrien-Rabiot
doubt it

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I would not like my club run the same way as Chelsea.

Me neither,was an honest question.

[Aldo1988]

Me neither,was an honest question.

I haven't got a clue, they are run a game of Championship Manager.  I thought the whole loan system was changed because they were herding young talent and loaning them out to the same clubs?  I guess they just don't register or plan to sell some of their squad in January?

[RedG13]

Isn't one of the main problems with us signing more players our squad size?   Isn't there a regulation on how many first team players we can register?  Won't be easy to offload Ox and Naby in this window unless we give them away.

Max 17 non Home grown players pretty sure that that maxed out currently.
Also Ox and Naby would have to agreed to leave i dont see why they would do that

[Suareznumber7]

It is interesting how people who have never seen Arthur play dismiss the idea of signing him on a permanent deal, yet they are willing to sign James Ward-Prowse 

Yeah, Arthur is a good player that would be an upgrade on both Milner and Ox in the midfield. 

[Aldo1988]

Max 17 non Home grown players pretty sure that that maxed out currently.
Also Ox and Naby would have to agreed to leave i dont see why they would do that

Think we have 16 including Cody at the moment, so we can fit in one more non home-grown if we don't shift anyone.

[Suareznumber7]

Thankfully, there’s been zero indication we plan on making it permanent. Hopefully it stays that way.

I don’t get this.  We obviously have a limited budget, we are losing 3 midfielders in the summer, he’s an upgrade on 2 of them and is available for a decent fee. 

[Aldo1988]

I don’t get this.  We obviously have a limited budget, we are losing 3 midfielders in the summer, he’s an upgrade on 2 of them and is available for a decent fee.

I think people are judging him on his injury record?  I'm not passing judgement on him until I see him play more than the 30 odd mins (I think it was that much?) he has for us.

[RedG13]

Think we have 16 including Cody at the moment, so we can fit in one more non home-grown if we don't shift anyone.

It was 16 with the 23 man squad in Aug/Sep. Cody makes that 17 with 7 homegrown players

[Aldo1988]

It was 16 with the 23 man squad in Aug/Sep. Cody makes that 17 with 7 homegrown players

Do players under a certain count?  If not, we have no room in our squad for anyone else unless we ship some out.

[RedBec1993]

Another Ecuadorian source saying we bid 60 mill for Caicedo…

https://mobile.twitter.com/ecuadorenvivo/status/1609640887700561920

[RedG13]

Do players under a certain count?  If not, we have no room in our squad for anyone else unless we ship some out.

u21s are Jones, Elliott,Carvalho,Bajcetic,Ramsay, Gordon

[Solomon Grundy]

Another Ecuadorian source saying we bid 60 mill for Caicedo…

https://mobile.twitter.com/ecuadorenvivo/status/1609640887700561920

Its just noise. They've got to make their money somehow. They're actually quoting the Telegraph as their source.

[Samie]

Another Ecuadorian source saying we bid 60 mill for Caicedo…

https://mobile.twitter.com/ecuadorenvivo/status/1609640887700561920

The dark webs saying if we get to 75 million via installments or whatever we get him. 

[Aldo1988]

u21s are Jones, Elliott,Carvalho,Bajcetic,Ramsay, Gordon

Looking at our squad below, we need to de-register someone to fit Cody in...

Goalkeepers: Alisson, Kelleher*, Adrian

Defenders: Van Dijk, Matip, Konate, Gomez*, Phillips*, Alexander-Arnold*, Robertson, Tsimikas

Midfielders: Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson*, Keita, Arthur, Milner*, Oxlade-Chamberlain*

Forwards: Salah, Jota, Diaz, Firmino, Nunez

Notable U21s: Elliott, Jones, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Ramsay, Gordon

The only option would be to send Arthur back or sign Bellingham 

[Samie]

Its just noise. They've got to make their money somehow. They're actually quoting the Telegraph as their source.

Mate, when it comes to us these days foreign journalism is better than local ones. only Joyce is relaible but that's when it's complete he announces it. 

[RedBec1993]

The dark webs saying if we get to 75 million via installments or whatever we get him. 

To be fair I’m warming to the idea of him, he does everything that our midfield is missing atm.

[Solomon Grundy]

Mate, when it comes to us these days foreign journalism is better than local ones. only Joyce is relaible but that's when it's complete he announces it. 

Well, we'll see. I'm calling BS on it though. I think you're so desperate for a signing you'll believe any rumor at this point, mate.

[Samie]

I believe none of it till Joyce or Orny. I just deliver the messages to the forum. 

[RedG13]

Looking at our squad below, we need to de-register someone to fit Cody in...

Goalkeepers: Alisson, Kelleher*, Adrian

Defenders: Van Dijk, Matip, Konate, Gomez*, Phillips*, Alexander-Arnold*, Robertson, Tsimikas

Midfielders: Fabinho, Thiago, Henderson*, Keita, Arthur, Milner*, Oxlade-Chamberlain*

Forwards: Salah, Jota, Diaz, Firmino, Nunez

Notable U21s: Elliott, Jones, Carvalho, Bajcetic, Ramsay, Gordon

The only option would be to send Arthur back or sign Bellingham 

That 16 non home grown, 2 Keepers, 5 Defender, 4 in MF and 5 Forwards.
I think Bellingham or somebody like bennacer(I think qualifies as homegrown with his youth days at arsenal) granted I dont think he leaving AC Milan or Liverpool are in for him rn but basically would need to be u21 or qualify as homegrown to buy in Jan. Have 1 homegrown spot available(Also Jones is going to take a Homegrown spot next year, Likely for Ox)
Arthur loan cant be cancelled, international loans are for the year.

[farawayred]

Arthur and even Adrian can open a foreign quota place, if it needs be. In fact, Arthur might be used more than Adrian if he stayed, however unlikely that may seem now.

[The G in Gerrard]

We aren't signing Caicedo in my opinion.

[RedG13]

Arthur and even Adrian can open a foreign quota place, if it needs be. In fact, Arthur might be used more than Adrian if he stayed, however unlikely that may seem now.

Still need a 3rd goalie, dont think Klopp going to do. if Arthur back from injury would expect him to be used.
obv we will see but just dont see it happening rn

[Tobelius]

We aren't signing Caicedo in my opinion.

Don't think so at least not now,Brighton want a special price for not that special a player.

Quoted asking price at £85m so presumably would cost over 70,Chelsea prices.

[PeterTheRed ...]

Yeah, Arthur is a good player that would be an upgrade on both Milner and Ox in the midfield. 

You don't get 22 caps for Brazil by the age of 23 if you are not a good player. Many people don't watch South American football, and don't know that Arthur was a regular for Brazil in their 2019 Copa America winning team. He has also played a significant role on Barcelona's 2018/19 title winning team. Then, in the summer of 2020, the suspicious swap deal with Pjanic happened, and since then his career went off the tracks.

I don't know how much of his quality is still there, but he is only 26 years old, and I am curious to see what he has to offer when fully fit ...

[Lycan]

Still need a 3rd goalie,

Harvey Davies could easily take that slot.

[Flaccido Dongingo]

You don't get 22 caps for Brazil by the age of 23 if you are not a good player. Many people don't watch South American football, and don't know that Arthur was a regular for Brazil in their 2019 Copa America winning team. He has also played a significant role on Barcelona's 2018/19 title winning team. Then, in the summer of 2020, the suspicious swap deal with Pjanic happened, and since then his career went off the tracks.

I don't know how much of his quality is still there, but he is only 26 years old, and I am curious to see what he has to offer when fully fit ...

I main the main issue with Arthur, is that he's fucking injured, so it doesn't matter how good he is.

[Fromola]

Still need a 3rd goalie, dont think Klopp going to do. if Arthur back from injury would expect him to be used.
obv we will see but just dont see it happening rn

Kelleher misses an awful lot of games and Ali's had injuries so you can't be too careful. It didn't make a lot of sense wasting a non-HG spot on a 3rd choice keeper in the summer though.

[Lynndenberries]

I don’t get this.  We obviously have a limited budget, we are losing 3 midfielders in the summer, he’s an upgrade on 2 of them and is available for a decent fee.

He’s played 20 minutes since he joined the club and doesn’t possess the traits we need in a midfielder at the moment.

[PeterTheRed ...]

I main the main issue with Arthur, is that he's fucking injured, so it doesn't matter how good he is.

Well, he is back to training next week, so we will have the chance to see how good he is, hopefully before the end of the month ...

[farawayred]

Still need a 3rd goalie, dont think Klopp going to do. if Arthur back from injury would expect him to be used.
obv we will see but just dont see it happening rn

I don't think it will happen either, but if we desperately need a foreign spot for a first-choice midfield player, we can and will definitely do something.

[cdav]

Would Caicedo take a non-homegrown slot in the squad with him being 21?

[El Lobo]

You don't get 22 caps for Brazil by the age of 23 if you are not a good player. Many people don't watch South American football, and don't know that Arthur was a regular for Brazil in their 2019 Copa America winning team. He has also played a significant role on Barcelona's 2018/19 title winning team. Then, in the summer of 2020, the suspicious swap deal with Pjanic happened, and since then his career went off the tracks.

I don't know how much of his quality is still there, but he is only 26 years old, and I am curious to see what he has to offer when fully fit ...

I dunno, Kleberson wasn’t far off that and he was famously shit