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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28761 on: March 19, 2023, 11:36:34 am »
Depends what’s on his contract?

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28762 on: March 19, 2023, 12:35:05 pm »
Up until the Bournouth loss which can happen in this league, we were 4 wins from 5 and one was 0-0 away to palace. All clean sheets aswell including a record win v the all conquering United side

Our act is together. It's not the together everyone is used to over the last 5 years but it's good enough to challenge spurs and Newcastle

The over reaction to the bournemouth result is getting a bit nauseating.

I think some of it is understandable frustration of, yet again, another insipid away performance at one of the bottom six. And having an ever diminishing pool of fit or useful midfielders.

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28763 on: March 19, 2023, 01:27:56 pm »
I think some of it is understandable frustration of, yet again, another insipid away performance at one of the bottom six. And having an ever diminishing pool of fit or useful midfielders.

The midfield had FA to do with the loss to Bournemouth. Lack of finishing had more to do with it. Their goal came from a punt over the top we didn't deal with. Konate dropped a bit to deep, Virg could have tracked back better rather than leave it to Andy, and the cross in the middle was an inch away from Konate getting his leg to.

The whinging, scapegoating, over the midfield is getting tiresome.
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28764 on: March 19, 2023, 03:53:40 pm »
The midfield had FA to do with the loss to Bournemouth. Lack of finishing had more to do with it. Their goal came from a punt over the top we didn't deal with. Konate dropped a bit to deep, Virg could have tracked back better rather than leave it to Andy, and the cross in the middle was an inch away from Konate getting his leg to.

The whinging, scapegoating, over the midfield is getting tiresome.
;D truly awful calling of the play

Their midfielder scored a tap in. He was one of three players that gave them an overload of players in the worst place possible, meaning each could have scored the tap in. You've discussed the cause of the ball being at the byline and having an easy opportunity to pass it, but the cause of there being three players to pass to was absent - and that was because the midfield had failed to track the run of Billings (plus one) into the box, as is their responsibility.

It's not scapegoating, it's just understanding the role the midfield plays off the ball. Maybe keep an eye on Allison in future, his actions when shouting at the midfield might convince you more. It seems like you've perhaps become so entrenched with defending the inaction in refreshing midfield over last few years that you've lost sight of what you're saying, when trying to conform to that viewpoint. "The midfield had FA to do with the loss to Bournemouth" is a statement that belies reality

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28765 on: March 19, 2023, 07:03:05 pm »
;D truly awful calling of the play

Their midfielder scored a tap in. He was one of three players that gave them an overload of players in the worst place possible, meaning each could have scored the tap in. You've discussed the cause of the ball being at the byline and having an easy opportunity to pass it, but the cause of there being three players to pass to was absent - and that was because the midfield had failed to track the run of Billings (plus one) into the box, as is their responsibility.

It's not scapegoating, it's just understanding the role the midfield plays off the ball. Maybe keep an eye on Allison in future, his actions when shouting at the midfield might convince you more. It seems like you've perhaps become so entrenched with defending the inaction in refreshing midfield over last few years that you've lost sight of what you're saying, when trying to conform to that viewpoint. "The midfield had FA to do with the loss to Bournemouth" is a statement that belies reality

I wondered why he seemed to be getting quite aerated at times. Wasn’t too sure which if his underperforming team mates he was berating. ;D

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28766 on: March 19, 2023, 07:55:05 pm »
;D truly awful calling of the play

Their midfielder scored a tap in. He was one of three players that gave them an overload of players in the worst place possible, meaning each could have scored the tap in. You've discussed the cause of the ball being at the byline and having an easy opportunity to pass it, but the cause of there being three players to pass to was absent - and that was because the midfield had failed to track the run of Billings (plus one) into the box, as is their responsibility.

It's not scapegoating, it's just understanding the role the midfield plays off the ball. Maybe keep an eye on Allison in future, his actions when shouting at the midfield might convince you more. It seems like you've perhaps become so entrenched with defending the inaction in refreshing midfield over last few years that you've lost sight of what you're saying, when trying to conform to that viewpoint. "The midfield had FA to do with the loss to Bournemouth" is a statement that belies reality

Awful eh.

Konate played their lad onside on the long ball over the top. Nothing to do with the midfield. Looking that direction he should have  easily kept the offside trap.

Virgil then is in position to defend the ball and player. But instead stops and lets Andy, racing back, to pick up the player. And Virgil became a statue at that point. Nothing to do with the midfield.

Their lad gets to the goal line and sends a routine ball back in towards the penalty spot. Konate tries to redeem himself by getting into a good defensive position. When the ball come in Konate sticks his leg out to block. Replays show the ball cleared his leg by a millimeter.

Billing scores.

We didn't need a midfield to stop the goal. We needed Virgil to make a better decision. When he passed the player on to Andy, Virgil should have beelined himself to where Konate ultimately ended up. That would have left Konate to hold his position and pick up Billing.

But the reason we dropped points was lack of finishing. No mention of VVD's heading and not scoring. Gakpo being offside when he scored and didn't need to be. And of course, Mo should have put the penalty away. He does that, it's 1-1. Bournemouth heads drop and chances are we go on to win the match.

But it was the midfield at fault.
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28767 on: March 19, 2023, 09:28:21 pm »
How did the Tottenham thread turn into a Bournemouth v Liverpool midfield debate? 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28768 on: March 19, 2023, 09:41:06 pm »
How did the Tottenham thread turn into a Bournemouth v Liverpool midfield debate? 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28769 on: March 19, 2023, 10:12:08 pm »

But the reason we dropped points was lack of finishing. No mention of VVD's heading and not scoring. Gakpo being offside when he scored and didn't need to be. And of course, Mo should have put the penalty away. He does that, it's 1-1. Bournemouth heads drop and chances are we go on to win the match.

But it was the midfield at fault.
You just used five paragraphs to agree with me about what the defence did wrong, but ignored entirely what the midfield did and what Klopp drills them to do (that they didn't do). Then bafflingly shift from discussing the goal we conceded, to blaming the attackers for Salah missing a pen and something daft about Gakpo as being the reason we lost.

As I said before, seems like you're (maybe not consciously) working extremely hard to avoid coming to rational conclusions about out midfield. I can understand your boredom about discussing the midfield's culpability in conceding goals since it's been a problem present since day one of the season. But it's odd to say the least that you don't think they have any role to play in preventing goals from opposition midfield runners.

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28770 on: March 19, 2023, 11:29:06 pm »
How did the Tottenham thread turn into a Bournemouth v Liverpool midfield debate? 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28771 on: March 19, 2023, 11:46:43 pm »
How did the Tottenham thread turn into a Bournemouth v Liverpool midfield debate? 🤷‍♂️

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« Reply #28772 on: March 19, 2023, 11:47:30 pm »
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28774 on: March 20, 2023, 12:57:39 am »
;D fair. sorry!

;) it was an open goal. For which I blame our attack, midfield, and defence.
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28775 on: March 20, 2023, 01:19:44 am »
Conte dropped a wwe style pipebomb promo on Spurs. Loved it.

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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
« Reply #28776 on: March 20, 2023, 12:36:08 pm »
I love that Levy and the Spurs board have looked at the press conference where Conte said 'the board's been there 20 years and have won nothing, maybe you should take a look at them' and said 'well, he wasn't saying anything that could warrant dismissal, it's really directed at the players'.

Conte probably has his flight back home to Italy this week booked and all. What a bunch of beta cucks.
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« Reply #28777 on: March 20, 2023, 02:55:33 pm »
Surely, they can't sack someone for telling the truth.  ;D
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Re: Spurs: fucking useless, managed by a snide little Playmobil haired gimp
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« Reply #28779 on: March 20, 2023, 08:42:35 pm »
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« Reply #28780 on: March 20, 2023, 09:03:52 pm »
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« Reply #28781 on: March 20, 2023, 09:05:27 pm »
He'll end up at PSG when Galtier is thrown out me thinks.

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« Reply #28782 on: March 20, 2023, 09:12:13 pm »
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« Reply #28783 on: March 20, 2023, 09:13:17 pm »
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Thomas Frank come in.
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« Reply #28784 on: March 20, 2023, 09:16:00 pm »
He'll end up at PSG when Galtier is thrown out me thinks.

Or possibly back at Chelsea?

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« Reply #28785 on: March 20, 2023, 09:31:57 pm »
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« Reply #28786 on: March 20, 2023, 09:42:49 pm »
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Thomas Frank come in.


NOOOO! He's our Klopp successor. Or at least we don't want him going to a potential rival.

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« Reply #28787 on: March 20, 2023, 10:06:54 pm »

NOOOO! He's our Klopp successor. Or at least we don't want him going to a potential rival.

that’ll go down a treat, a manager who’s won fuck all. Although he could go to Spurs and change that then come here. Oh wait.......

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« Reply #28788 on: March 20, 2023, 11:04:48 pm »
How did the Tottenham thread turn into a Bournemouth v Liverpool midfield debate? 🤷‍♂️

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« Reply #28789 on: March 20, 2023, 11:12:42 pm »
...  Conte said 'the board's been there 20 years and have won nothing, maybe you should take a look at them' ...

This is the crux of it isn't it.

No doubt the ground is amazing and they did compete for several seasons and play some great football, but they have won one league cup in 2008. If you compare that to what Liverpool or Arsenal have won since Joe Lewis acquired Spurs from Alan Sugar in 2000 it's abysmal.




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« Reply #28790 on: March 20, 2023, 11:40:22 pm »
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« Reply #28792 on: March 21, 2023, 09:45:55 am »
This is the crux of it isn't it.

No doubt the ground is amazing and they did compete for several seasons and play some great football, but they have won one league cup in 2008. If you compare that to what Liverpool or Arsenal have won since Joe Lewis acquired Spurs from Alan Sugar in 2000 it's abysmal.
It's weird isn't it? Undoubtedly they failed to invest adequately in the playing personnel when they had some real momentum under Pochettino (a mistake that we arguably made this summer) but there's always been something of a style-over-substance feel about about Spurs. They've always felt flashier than their north London rivals and they've definitely had more coverage in the media - especially The BBC - than felt warranted (possibly due to ex-players as pundits). But flashy doesn't win you trophies.

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« Reply #28793 on: March 21, 2023, 10:17:45 am »
This is the crux of it isn't it.

No doubt the ground is amazing and they did compete for several seasons and play some great football, but they have won one league cup in 2008. If you compare that to what Liverpool or Arsenal have won since Joe Lewis acquired Spurs from Alan Sugar in 2000 it's abysmal.

I'm not sure I agree with the concept of comparing them with Liverpool or Arsenal, who are far bigger clubs than them. They barely won anything before 2000 either. Spurs really should be compared with Newcastle (before they became Saudi Arabia), Aston Villa or Everton and to be fair, even without winning anything, their marketing business has been excellent compared to those clubs. To the point that their performance is being compared to clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal  ;D
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« Reply #28794 on: March 21, 2023, 12:15:23 pm »
I'm not sure I agree with the concept of comparing them with Liverpool or Arsenal, who are far bigger clubs than them. They barely won anything before 2000 either. Spurs really should be compared with Newcastle (before they became Saudi Arabia), Aston Villa or Everton and to be fair, even without winning anything, their marketing business has been excellent compared to those clubs. To the point that their performance is being compared to clubs like Liverpool and Arsenal  ;D
That they were invited to join the European Super League - albeit the invitation was met with bemusement by many - shows how much better they have fared compared to their peers like Newcastle, Villa and Everton!  They've been an accepted part of the "top six" for a long time now as well.  They've not managed to get over the line but they have certainly progressed since the days of Alan Sugar.

It is just very difficult to win trophies in England.  Aside from the weird season where Leicester won it (/Spurs lost it) and the season that Klopp defied the odds the league has been dominated by the monied Manchester clubs and Oligarch Chelsea for 20 years.  The domestic cups are really only for the clubs with massive squads, those without European football or, in the case of Arsenal, willing to prioritise domestic cups over European cups.

Having said that, how they didn't win the Conference League is anyone's guess.  They won't get a better chance to win a trophy for a long time.

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« Reply #28795 on: March 24, 2023, 11:01:11 am »
Wonder whether these might now fancy the opportunity to hire Julien Nagelsmann before too long...?

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« Reply #28796 on: March 24, 2023, 11:16:04 am »
Wonder whether these might now fancy the opportunity to hire Julien Nagelsmann before too long...?
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« Reply #28797 on: March 24, 2023, 12:09:12 pm »
Wonder whether these might now fancy the opportunity to hire Julien Nagelsmann before too long...?

I’m sure they’d love too.

If he has any sense thoigh he’ll take the rest of this season off, and then survey his options in the summer! And he’ll no doubt have options. Things didn’t work at Bayern, but he isn’t the first coach they’ve unceremoniously ousted.  He is still a very talented coach.

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« Reply #28798 on: March 24, 2023, 12:14:30 pm »
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« Reply #28799 on: March 24, 2023, 05:15:32 pm »
so if conte does go...or if he doesn't and lingers on knowing there is bad blood. surely this can only be bad for the rest of spurs' campaign right?
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