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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #320 on: September 21, 2017, 02:29:39 pm »
Oh yeah, not disputing that at all. Objectively he's not a good singer.

I think that was Corky's intention in this thread, to highlight the objectively good ones (in an inherently subjective medium). 
Unlike him I love Nick Cave, but I realise that his vocal isn't the best instrument possible. But fuck it if he doesn't make it work for his songs. So he doesn't make it in here.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #321 on: September 21, 2017, 04:18:41 pm »
Corey Taylor of Slipknot (seriously), has an incredible voice and an amazing range. Here he is signing Through Glass by Stone Sour. Honestly, really worth the listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIzDsGyxsQM

And the lead singer of The Cranberries, goes without saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #322 on: September 21, 2017, 04:37:31 pm »
And the lead singer of The Cranberries, goes without saying.

I'm glad you said it all the same, so I can disagree with you.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #323 on: September 21, 2017, 10:17:53 pm »
I'm glad you said it all the same, so I can disagree with you.

Did you have to let it linger Corky?

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #324 on: September 21, 2017, 10:30:44 pm »
Corey Taylor of Slipknot (seriously), has an incredible voice and an amazing range. Here he is signing Through Glass by Stone Sour. Honestly, really worth the listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIzDsGyxsQM

And the lead singer of The Cranberries, goes without saying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

Great shout for Corey Taylor. First time I heard Stone Sour was Through Glass and I would never have guessed it was the same singer from Slipknot. Sounded more like himself on Say You'll Haunt me.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #325 on: September 21, 2017, 11:08:29 pm »
Just scrolled down from the start and cannot believe I've never actually posted in this thread till now


 ;D


Mind you got to say an awful lot of ground has already been covered so doesn't leave a lot of room for singers not mentioned



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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #326 on: September 22, 2017, 08:46:32 am »
Ditto.

Mind you, ten years later and we're still arguing about nick cave...

Diamanda Galas been mentioned yet?

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #327 on: September 22, 2017, 10:50:02 am »
I'm glad you said it all the same, so I can disagree with you.
Why's that? The raw emotion that she holds in her voice is tangible.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #328 on: September 22, 2017, 11:04:30 am »
At the risk of sounding snobbish, I have a slight problem with some of these choices as being really good singers.

There's many a person who can blow out  "Dixie" on a harmonica, but that doesn't make them a Larry Adler.

And the singing voice is very much an instrument, and there are some who only possess a kazoo and there are others who have a full orchestra down their throat and at their disposal.

That doesn't mean to say that I would never listen to a kazoo or think it was rubbish, in the right place and at the right time it can be fun, but it's undoubtedly somewhat limited in its range and restricted in what it can convey.



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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #329 on: September 22, 2017, 11:12:41 am »
Top ten great singers who can't sing

They are celebrated as great vocalists, but can the likes of Bob Dylan and Tom Waits really sing?

Bob Dylan: “A voice like sand and glue” in Bowie’s memorable phrase. Contrary to what many of his critics would assert, Dylan actually sings in tune but his harsh, barbed-wire timbre & attacking delivery has been inspiration for every tone deaf poet with a guitar. But with songs like these, who cares whether he can really sing or not?

Lou Reed: His half talking, half singing drawl with the Velvet Underground created a new rock template

Tom Waits: Started out gruff and soulful but deliberately ravaged his vocal chords with whiskey & cigarettes to sound older & more lived in. In the history of vocals, I am not sure anyone has ever done more with less.

Johnny Cash: Even as a youngster, his voice was shaky & low, but he sang in time and in tune and like he had lived every word.

John Lydon: His ranting style, high and tuneless, led the attack of the Sex Pistols then took us on dub metal journeys with PIL

Ian Dury: Unrepentantly cockney speak-singing, frequently completely flat but utterly alive in the playful lyrics.

Leonard Cohen: A low, shaky monotone that has, somehow, grown in authority even as it reduces in range

Nick Cave: A stiff baritone beset by tuning problems, Cave invests his apocalyptic blues with spine chilling conviction

Siouxsie Sioux: A lone female entrant on our chart of errant singing stars, Siouxsie’s limited range and gravelly tone only added to her lustre as the grand dame of punk & goth

Jarvis Cocker: OK when he keeps it to a whisper but as soon as he sings out he turns into some tuneless geek in a karaoke bar. Which perfectly suits his vignettes of ordinary life.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #330 on: September 22, 2017, 11:22:11 am »
I think there's a distinction to be made between singers I like and really good singers.

Perhaps it's too hard to do, but sometimes you have to step back from the music the artist has released, which you may not even like, but then recognise that the vocal talent is unquestionable.

For example, I rate Lulu very highly indeed though probably wouldn't go near her pop releases that she was once famous for.

Same with Tom Jones, I'd never buy any of his stuff, but his singing voice is recognisably something pretty special.

And Streisand vocally I'd put on a pedestal though I rarely listen to any of her stuff.


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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #331 on: September 22, 2017, 02:32:47 pm »
There are a lot of really nice female voices around the British/ Irish folk scene - the late great Sandy Denny of course, but Kate Rusby, Chris While, Emily Portman, Linda Thompson, Cara Dillon and Karine Polwart are excellent singers. Sticking with females, of different genres, I like Emmylou Harris, Paloma Faith and Floor Jansen (of Nightwish).
 I don't think Graham Nash and David Crosby have been mentioned in this thread yet either.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #332 on: September 22, 2017, 02:39:00 pm »
There are a lot of really nice female voices around the British/ Irish folk scene - the late great Sandy Denny of course, but Kate Rusby, Chris While, Emily Portman, Linda Thompson, Cara Dillon and Karine Polwart are excellent singers. Sticking with females, of different genres, I like Emmylou Harris, Paloma Faith and Floor Jansen (of Nightwish).
 I don't think Graham Nash and David Crosby have been mentioned in this thread yet either.

Some great shouts there. Emmylou  8)
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #333 on: September 22, 2017, 02:51:01 pm »
I never thought I'd see someone who likes Cara Dillon on here.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #334 on: September 22, 2017, 03:09:15 pm »
I never thought I'd see someone who likes Cara Dillon on here.

Is that good or bad?

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #335 on: September 22, 2017, 03:50:58 pm »
Is that good or bad?

Definitely good :)

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #336 on: September 23, 2017, 05:11:35 pm »
Definitely good :)



She's got a beautiful voice - I was lucky enough to see her at Crosby Civic Hall a few years ago - wonderful performance.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #337 on: September 23, 2017, 06:46:29 pm »
Rob Halford from Walsall used to be a fantastic singer.
Such a range and such power, every bootleg he's on is a joy to listen to.
It's like he does it a little bit different every night.
But you can hear age becomes a thing in his voice now.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #338 on: September 23, 2017, 08:54:39 pm »
Love them or loathe them Matt Bellamy from Muse's voice is fantastic.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #339 on: September 24, 2017, 09:55:27 am »
Did you have to let it linger Corky?

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #340 on: September 24, 2017, 11:05:58 am »
There are a lot of really nice female voices around the British/ Irish folk scene - the late great Sandy Denny of course, but Kate Rusby, Chris While, Emily Portman, Linda Thompson, Cara Dillon and Karine Polwart are excellent singers. Sticking with females, of different genres, I like Emmylou Harris, Paloma Faith and Floor Jansen (of Nightwish).
 I don't think Graham Nash and David Crosby have been mentioned in this thread yet either.

Emmylou Harris's version of Here, There and Everywhere was stunning. I remember my sister having a copy of the record.

Also if you're going on about female's then Adele needs a mention, she has an amazing vocal range, though I would not buy any of her stuff.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #341 on: October 1, 2017, 11:02:39 pm »
There is a touch of KC there.

This has been getting a fair bit of airplay recently and just finally appeared on youtube...

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That delayed vibrato she can do on her voice and her control of dynamics, she's seriously talented.

The production is just slightly too busy and as usual for these days a tad too compressed for the usual streaming outputs, but it's still pretty sweet, and that major/minor piano chord vamping sequence is really nice.

It's vocal molasses and not to everyones taste or appreciation, and it sounds easy to do, but it's not, it's really quite exquisite and takes a lot of skill to do.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #342 on: October 1, 2017, 11:29:05 pm »
It's not a great song, and there's way too much strings, or whatever the fuck that background wash is (you're right, over produced) but she has the same turn in her voice at a certain pitch as KC. It's uncanny.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #343 on: October 1, 2017, 11:29:51 pm »
This has been getting a fair bit of airplay recently and just finally appeared on youtube...

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That delayed vibrato she can do on her voice and her control of dynamics, she's seriously talented.

The production is just slightly too busy and as usual for these days a tad too compressed for the usual streaming outputs, but it's still pretty sweet, and that major/minor piano chord vamping sequence is really nice.

It's vocal molasses and not to everyones taste or appreciation, and it sounds easy to do, but it's not, it's really quite exquisite and takes a lot of skill to do.

Her voice reminds me of Karen Carpenter, who I always liked. Will listen to more of that.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #344 on: October 2, 2017, 12:15:04 am »
I take it Eva Cassidy has been mentioned?

Whenever one of her songs comes on I have to stop what I'm doing and just enjoy it.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #345 on: October 24, 2017, 03:41:56 pm »
Classic George:

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #346 on: October 24, 2017, 04:44:17 pm »
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The production is hideous but she still bangs the brains out of the performance.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #347 on: March 10, 2023, 11:17:56 pm »
Lately listening to some Ella Fitzgerald. She is utterly flawless. You get exactly what she wants you to get, as if it were her explaining what notes are.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #348 on: March 10, 2023, 11:25:05 pm »
Classic George:

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #349 on: March 13, 2023, 12:03:17 am »
Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered-Ella Fitzgerald
It's over 7 minutes but seriously, make yourself a drink and just listen this all the way through, the voice, the unique lyrics (thank god I can be oversexed again), the arrangements, the key changes, the shift towards the end
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #350 on: March 17, 2023, 08:35:00 pm »
Those two George Michael songs are indeed brilliant. And immaculately delivered by the master.
The lyrics need a mention as well though.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #351 on: March 18, 2023, 10:04:42 pm »
Watching/listening to Aretha Franklin on bbc2 ☺️

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #352 on: March 19, 2023, 02:26:02 am »
Hiromi Iwasaki. One of the most celebrated performers in arguably the most celebrated period of Japanese pop music.

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Starts off with a classically trained performance of a Japanese folk ballad. Moves on to disco (Donna Summer medley).


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Probably at her peak.


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The only live performance of an album track. Easily improves on the studio version. Shows off her vocal agility, power, range, technical ability.

From her debut in her teens through into her thirties, she had a habit of improving on the original, not through the Mariah Carey method of imbuing every song with the same tired vocal acrobatics, but by getting the feeling exactly right at every moment. Being technically excellent helped, but a number of composers were fans of hers, with a number of comments on her understanding of the music.


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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #353 on: March 20, 2023, 05:52:38 pm »
My favourite vocalists.

Both missed, still.




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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #354 on: March 22, 2023, 04:11:43 pm »
I'm a big MJ fan, but I appreciate other singers too. Freddie Mercury, Chris Cornell, Lauryn Hill, Chaka Khan.

But this guy Chris Leipe, is a vocal coach, and breaks down vocals, its a fascinating watch. Because he also analyses the mindset of where the artist is when singing the songs.

Chris Cornell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A6x2l_JVpQ

Michael Jackson

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Kurt Cobain

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #355 on: March 22, 2023, 05:03:48 pm »
Has Roberta Flack been mentioned yet?
What a voice.

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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #356 on: March 22, 2023, 05:16:03 pm »
Has Roberta Flack been mentioned yet?
What a voice.

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Decent striker at Norwich for a time as well.

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« Reply #357 on: March 22, 2023, 05:23:53 pm »
Decent striker at Norwich for a time as well.
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Re: Really Good Singers
« Reply #358 on: March 22, 2023, 06:07:34 pm »
Decent striker at Norwich for a time as well.
The first time I ever saw his face
Was in a Panini sticker album.
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« Reply #359 on: March 22, 2023, 07:27:34 pm »
The first time I ever saw his face
Was in a Panini sticker album.

He had a very good touch for a target man didn’t he. Especially with his in-step.

Remember him playing at Anfield once and no matter how hard or high the ball was fizzed at him he was always killing it softly with his tongue.