Topic: The referee watch thread.

[KiNki]

Well there's abit of a discussion going on about referees so if your watching any premiership games and see any decisions that are abit hmm feel free to discuss it here.

Add pics, gifs, stats, and anything else you feel warrants discussion.

Todays ref for united v swansea is chris foy. 

[planet-terror]

is that sir chris foy then,didnt know he was a ref

[thegoodfella]

Is it just me who thinks Foy is leaning towards the home side?

[hollger]

Lee Mason was absolutely shocking at the Cardiff v West Ham game today. Awful.

[KiNki]

from the indy

"16.57 Noble is appealing for a penalty for West Ham, but you would need to hit someone with a snooker cue for Lee Mason to award something."

"Lee Mason is not a popular man inside the Cardiff City Stadium. He has waved a few away for the home side today."

[Cochise]

RAWK will probably hear from the FAs lawyers over this thread.

[thegoodfella]

Well how about we keep a scorecard of questionable decisions by each ref, or at least the glaring ones?

[TheGOAT]

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-10/former-premier-league-referee-graham-poll-admits-to-feeling-sense-of-relief-when-man-united-won/

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll admits he used to feel "a sense of relief" when Man United played well in and won games he officiated.

Writing in his Daily Mail column, Poll said:

"I would concede there was a sense of relief when United played well and won, particularly at Old Trafford.

"I knew if they didn't win there was every chance of seeing and, more importantly, hearing Ferguson and reading his comments about me in the papers the next day.

"All referees knew that Fergie's standing in the game - and the fact that he was at the biggest club - meant that when he unleashed the hairdryer on a referee there were inevitable headlines."

Poll also suggested David Moyes has to accept he cannot enjoy anything like the same intimidating effect he believes Mr. Ferguson enjoyed for many years.

"I fear another defeat for Moyes," he said.

"[Moyes] must accept that he does not have the same intimidating presence as his predecessor had."

[Big Red Richie]

The referee watch thread?

[Gods_Left_Boot]

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-10/former-premier-league-referee-graham-poll-admits-to-feeling-sense-of-relief-when-man-united-won/

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll admits he used to feel "a sense of relief" when Man United played well in and won games he officiated.

Writing in his Daily Mail column, Poll said:

"I would concede there was a sense of relief when United played well and won, particularly at Old Trafford.

"I knew if they didn't win there was every chance of seeing and, more importantly, hearing Ferguson and reading his comments about me in the papers the next day.

"All referees knew that Fergie's standing in the game - and the fact that he was at the biggest club - meant that when he unleashed the hairdryer on a referee there were inevitable headlines."

Poll also suggested David Moyes has to accept he cannot enjoy anything like the same intimidating effect he believes Mr. Ferguson enjoyed for many years.

"I fear another defeat for Moyes," he said.

"[Moyes] must accept that he does not have the same intimidating presence as his predecessor had."

Pair this with Halsey's "texts" comments and maybe we weren't bitter, paranoid bastards (as we were told we were) when we said that Ferguson had the refs in his back pocket. Shocker.

[Il Capitano]

"I knew if they didn't win there was every chance of seeing and, more importantly, hearing Ferguson and reading his comments about me in the papers the next day.

Coward.

[Mad Max]

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-10/former-premier-league-referee-graham-poll-admits-to-feeling-sense-of-relief-when-man-united-won/

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll admits he used to feel "a sense of relief" when Man United played well in and won games he officiated.

Writing in his Daily Mail column, Poll said:

"I would concede there was a sense of relief when United played well and won, particularly at Old Trafford.

"I knew if they didn't win there was every chance of seeing and, more importantly, hearing Ferguson and reading his comments about me in the papers the next day.

"All referees knew that Fergie's standing in the game - and the fact that he was at the biggest club - meant that when he unleashed the hairdryer on a referee there were inevitable headlines."

Poll also suggested David Moyes has to accept he cannot enjoy anything like the same intimidating effect he believes Mr. Ferguson enjoyed for many years.

"I fear another defeat for Moyes," he said.

"[Moyes] must accept that he does not have the same intimidating presence as his predecessor had."

It's a disgrace, titles should be deducted for them.

[00jebus]

^^ I don't understand why the FA let their referee's just say stuff like this, or have these attitudes but just let them be and not, you know, address the problem, surely it counts as a minor case of brining the game into disrepute if someone who is supposed to be impartial thinks this way?

Pair this with Halsey's "texts" comments and maybe we weren't bitter, paranoid bastards (as we were told we were) when we said that Ferguson had the refs in his back pocket. Shocker.

What he say again?

[Il Capitano]

I think in actuality, beneath the face of it the referees are far more unprofessional and partial than they like to let on, and I bet the system for promotion and relegation is entirely variable and poorly-organised.

[BarryCrocker]

When do the refs have to turn up in this thread and respond to the allegations users throw at them?

[KiNki]

usually about 10 years after they've packed it in.

[vivabobbygraham]

When do the refs have to turn up in this thread and respond to the allegations users throw at them?

[Mamadou]

comedy gold...another week,another BIG mistake

when this is going to stop?

[planet-terror]

clearly these refs arent paid enough,

[Zlen]

clearly these refs arent paid enough,

They aren't bitchslapped enough you mean.

[planet-terror]

They aren't bitchslapped enough you mean.

sorry,typo

[JG-7]

Appropriate time to bump this thread is seems. Yet another incompetent and weak ref, doesn't surprise me to hear this was the beachball referee.

[KiNki]

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/C595EC9E7E1034161986118017024_19e97adbe6e.4.7.7577054327720126274_u2Ke.EMftiojZvNcioFz3UXPr6s8NuPXRZ5F5pxup1M5bz_V295V6k50fXg.SQiR.mp4?versionId=V_u5i8cYugqu3uXwK8YNKjOVJsYooWZK

[Mamadou]

https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/C595EC9E7E1034161986118017024_19e97adbe6e.4.7.7577054327720126274_u2Ke.EMftiojZvNcioFz3UXPr6s8NuPXRZ5F5pxup1M5bz_V295V6k50fXg.SQiR.mp4?versionId=V_u5i8cYugqu3uXwK8YNKjOVJsYooWZK

that ball was never going to hit that player,even if he didn't move

[KiNki]

[Sgt. Pepper]

Awful refereeing at Newcastle. Can't wait until they're all replaced by robots.

A mirror image of our game against City. Let the conspiracy theories commence.

[rushyman]

Well just heard Pardew going on about 'This is an entertainment business' and ''hes not give it on a minor technicality' so hes obviously had the rule book out with the ref and looks like it mightve been a correct decision under the rules as I have said earlier in the thread

[Mamadou]

what rule mate?

[JohnHobbes]

Well just heard Pardew going on about 'This is an entertainment business' and ''hes not give it on a minor technicality' so hes obviously had the rule book out with the ref and looks like it mightve been a correct decision under the rules as I have said earlier in the thread

If the rules do prohibit then it'd be harsh when looking at with common sense, but unfortunately there are scenarios where the rules are either "weakly" written or just have loopholes.

In this case, I'd say if there rules say no then I'd say it should be a yes, keeper was never getting to it.

Or like in the "ask a ref" question, where a tannoy blast puts off a penalty kicker - it might not be against the rules but it's taking the piss and should he.

[lfcshaunod]

I keep saying that referees should be interviewed after matches just like the players and managers do.

BT Sport even have a little TV sometimes so players or managers can talk through the goals and stuff.

I would love to see a referee stood there on camera, watching a replay of his decisions with the interviewer standing there saying "Come on then, what were you thinking there?!"

I bet there wouldn't be as many fuck ups then if they were being publicly embarrassed every week.

[JohnHobbes]

I bet there wouldn't be as many fuck ups then if they were being publicly embarrassed every week.

I'm guessing that's the very reason why they don't. Being the scapegoat is terribly inconveniencing don't you know. I'd rather if was worked to help them explain their decision making without looking to screw them over.

[lfcshaunod]

I'm guessing that's the very reason why they don't. Being the scapegoat is terribly inconveniencing don't you know. I'd rather if was worked to help them explain their decision making without looking to screw them over.

Either way, they should do it.

Too easy for them to hide after their fuck ups.

Don't get me wrong, if they have a good game then use the interview process to praise them for the decisions they do get right.

[redhokie8]

in the refs defense, from a goalkeeping perspective having that player in the balls trajectory does cause hesitation. you can kind of see that during the goal it looks like hart is looking at gouffran before the balls in the net. still harsh though

[JohnHobbes]

Either way, they should do it.

Too easy for them to hide after their fuck ups.

Don't get me wrong, if they have a good game then use the interview process to praise them for the decisions they do get right.

Fine as long as it's an impartial interview, a chance to talk through things. Not if it's a chance to have a interrogation by reporter, which in all likelihood it would end up being.

I don't like half the decisions either but I know just how bad the Sky/BT Sport/BBC/ITV reporters tend to be with their inane, inflammatory, misleading, biased or just plain stupid questions.

It's bad enough with them doing it to managers with "dodgy" decisions but if they could have a go at referees then I think they'd be much worse.

[vicgill]

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-10/former-premier-league-referee-graham-poll-admits-to-feeling-sense-of-relief-when-man-united-won/

Former Premier League referee Graham Poll admits he used to feel "a sense of relief" when Man United played well in and won games he officiated.

Writing in his Daily Mail column, Poll said:

"I would concede there was a sense of relief when United played well and won, particularly at Old Trafford.

"I knew if they didn't win there was every chance of seeing and, more importantly, hearing Ferguson and reading his comments about me in the papers the next day.

"All referees knew that Fergie's standing in the game - and the fact that he was at the biggest club - meant that when he unleashed the hairdryer on a referee there were inevitable headlines."

Poll also suggested David Moyes has to accept he cannot enjoy anything like the same intimidating effect he believes Mr. Ferguson enjoyed for many years.

"I fear another defeat for Moyes," he said.

"[Moyes] must accept that he does not have the same intimidating presence as his predecessor had."

So if Brendan Rodgers becomes a raging bully then the league is ours. I can't remember the other Ref who was supplied with free tickets by the tramp (Halsey ?) so there is corruption, money doesn't have to be involved, favours will do it.

[ManchesterBlue]

Awful refereeing at Newcastle. Can't wait until they're all replaced by robots.

A mirror image of our game against City. Let the conspiracy theories commence.

Well it was Mike Jones and you know all about him. I've just watched the recording of the game and in the old days, that was offside without a shadow of a doubt. But now there's all these complications about interfering, being active (and what did Shankly say about that?) etc. How can you say that decision is right or wrong with all those? It could have been they thought the ball touched Gouffran, in which case they were jsutified in disallowing it, or they could have just got it plain wrong. They've only got one view of it though so have to make a decision based on that.

The thing that got me annoyed (and I accept I'm watching it from a one-sided view) is that he seemed to keep his cards in his pocket to compensate for disallowing that. Cabaye was on a yellow and got away with two tackles that normally would have seen a second yellow. Sissoko was on a yellow and got away with a deliberate handball. Yangwe M'Bia should have had a straight red and Santon (who could have easily had a yellow in the first half when he went through the back of Nasri) wasn't carded for a professional foul on Kolarov. Jones just gave them licence to kick. So if you ask a City fan, We'd say that, despite the  disallowed goal, we came out of that worse.

[BlackandWhitePaul]

The one officiating at our place today needs to gan to Specsavers ASAP.

Isn't he the one who let the Mackems keep their crap goal (the beach ball incident) against you's?

Tosser wants throwing out the game     

[ManchesterBlue]

The one officiating at our place today needs to gan to Specsavers ASAP.

Isn't he the one who let the Mackems keep their crap goal (the beach ball incident) against you's?

Tosser wants throwing out the game     

That's the one. I was staggered when he allowed that goal to stand and totally agree that someone who does not know a basic law should not be refereeing at this level and I've never seen anything from Jones to make me change my mind.

[rafathegaffa83]

This is probably the best thread to put this in, but what has happened to the program of suspensions we were supposed to see this season for violent tackles and challenges, even if the referee had produced a booking? Like the Respect campaign, this one seems to have been tidily put back in a drawer. Eto'o on Henderson. Rooney on Mutch. And now Yanga-Mbiwa on Nasri all come to mind is candidates that deserved red and possibly suspensions after-the-fact.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

How about a "1 review per game", option?

If teams feel a certain decision has gone against them, they can appeal. Then and there. The player in question, indicates to the captain of his team about the foul/offside/penalty/yellow card etc, who inturn speaks to the referee about the decision to review the incident. The game is paused, and reviewed on live camera (As in, the replays are shown on TV), very similar to the 3rd umpire review system in cricket.

The teams can only enable 1 review per game, and if they get it wrong, they lose their appeal in their next game. They are not carried over.