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Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« on: April 12, 2011, 12:06:22 am »
Right, firstly I'm sure there's probably another thread covering aspects of DJ-ing, equipment, setups etc but couldn't find anything on the search. Also, wanted to ask specifically about how best to start out. So...

..I'm looking to invest in some new equipment. Always something I've wanted to do, just shied away because of the cost & now I'm earning a little more I'd like to give it a go. Only as a hobby really, but who knows, eh? I saw DJ QBert & DJ Shiftee at The Jazz Cafe in London last week which has finally pushed me over on this (plus, the 200 quid I won on the National!!!)

I know a little bit & have been doing some research but would find it really useful if there's any budding DJs on RAWK who can advise & recommend decent equipment. I know it's very much a case of getting more for your money - the difference in cheap equipment & mid-top end stuff absolutely massive, therefore quite heavily impacting upon learning curves & ability to develop etc.

Specifically I want to get started on vinyl - being quite into my hip-hop I'd love to learn how to mix & scratch. So, I guess this has implications on what sort of turntables (carts) & mixers I might go for.

Ideally would be looking to spend circa 600 squid on turntables, mixer & headphones...then adding to it bit by bit.

Help? Ta in advance!
 





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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 01:23:49 am »
If i was you mate,id buy this,its as good as it gets,and a cracking price

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Numark-TTX1-turntables-SA-12-Stanton-FX-mixer-/220766204643?pt=UK_Mixers&hash=item3366b0f2e3

Thats nearly £1400  worth of gear
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 01:31:02 am »
If i was you mate,id buy this,its as good as it gets,and a cracking price

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Numark-TTX1-turntables-SA-12-Stanton-FX-mixer-/220766204643?pt=UK_Mixers&hash=item3366b0f2e3

Thats nearly £1400 quids worth of gear
The decks in that ebay listing are in this vid...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/sh5vunD015o?fs=1&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/sh5vunD015o?fs=1&amp;</a>

I have a pair of em,and also a pair of 1210's.For me,the Numarks give you more options,than the Technics

You'll have to buy some needles and headphones,but id snap their fucking hands off at that price
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 01:21:43 pm »
Cheers for the link mate.

Why do you reckon they're so cheap?

Initially I'd heard E-Bay wasn't a good shout as it's just become saturated & therefore not that cheap, but these look a great deal. Bit nervous about buying second hand though.

If it means I'll be as good as the lads in the video then fuck it, why not!  :D

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 01:23:17 pm »
Also , how much are new needles? Is there anything else I'd need to buy in addition...

Like I said, complete novice really so a little clueless.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 01:51:59 pm »
Got just what your looking for!!

2 x Numark TT1 Direct Drive Decks, 1 x 1002DMX Numark Mixer, approx 100 records and a record bag with all Stylus & connecting leads included.

http://en.audiofanzine.com/turntable/numark/PRO-TT1/user_reviews/r.5567.html

hardly used since new......

am about to put these up on ebay and was looking for around £350 all in mate, over a grands worth here the only thing you'll need is a nice pair of headphones....are you local can deliver and can do a deal on the price with you for quick sale if your interested!

Have just tried to upload pics but they too big can email them to you if you want....
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 01:54:54 pm »
Cheers for the link mate.

Why do you reckon they're so cheap?

Initially I'd heard E-Bay wasn't a good shout as it's just become saturated & therefore not that cheap, but these look a great deal. Bit nervous about buying second hand though.

If it means I'll be as good as the lads in the video then fuck it, why not!  :D
No reason mate,but that lad whos offered you his(Splee) sounds the better deal if im being honest,.plus ive found em cheaper online than the ones i linked

 
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2011, 01:56:39 pm »
No reason mate,but that lad whos offered you his(Splee) sounds the better deal if im being honest,.plus ive found em cheaper online than the ones i linked

 

am liking your sales pitch for mine........where is the "like" button :D
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2011, 02:02:55 pm »
Also , how much are new needles? Is there anything else I'd need to buy in addition...

Like I said, complete novice really so a little clueless.
I'd go with the ones i mentioned,I use Stanton 505 MKII and ortofon Concorde,quite dear like,but theyll last you for years.Get some Thud Rumble slipmats n all,the kind Q Bert uses

http://www.decks.co.uk/thud_rumble_homepage

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2011, 02:06:15 pm »
Also , how much are new needles? Is there anything else I'd need to buy in addition...

Like I said, complete novice really so a little clueless.

mine have Stanton 500 carts :) nice pair of headphones for about £70 and you be sorted!!! + more money for you to spend on records :)
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2011, 02:08:55 pm »
I got these last year from here,fucking boss they are and cheap as fuck,should be a lot dearer

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-SONY-MDR-V700-MDR-V700DJ-Headphones-MP3-/140532004529?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item20b85c36b1
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2011, 02:10:22 pm »
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2011, 02:15:26 pm »
fuck that is cheap!!!!

Properly cup your ears mate,boss they are.I had a pair before ,I bought from uk,and spent over £80 on em.Best pair ive used
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2011, 02:32:05 pm »
Cheers lads, much appreciated. Flat out at work at the mo but will take a proper read through later whilst watching the mancs get knocked out...

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2011, 12:09:58 am »
I've finally decided that I should have a crack at this music malarky, and as such would like advice as to the best set up if I wished to play both vinyl and mp3.

I've got my eye a pair of Technics 1210s, but haven't cast my eye on a mixer yet. Presumably I will need one which is compatible with Serato or Traktor. Any recommendations?

Obviously, I already own a decent laptop

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 12:14:41 am »
I've finally decided that I should have a crack at this music malarky, and as such would like advice as to the best set up if I wished to play both vinyl and mp3.

I've got my eye a pair of Technics 1210s, but haven't cast my eye on a mixer yet. Presumably I will need one which is compatible with Serato or Traktor. Any recommendations?

Obviously, I already own a decent laptop
Intimidation touch,cost £180.work just as good as Serato.control your mp3 from your vinyl/decks.and you'll never have to pay for music again

http://www.djsuperstore.co.uk/=Google%20Base/item/digital-dj/640663-intimidation-touch-dvs-digital-vinyl-system-v3-pc-mac
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 12:16:33 am »
All mixers are compatible.If you find a mixer you like,put the link up here.Vestax are good,though

Or tell us how much you have/want to spend on one,and ill find you one
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #18 on: December 3, 2011, 05:07:42 pm »
Like the OP, I'm looking to try my hand of DJ-ing. Pretty much clueless in terms of what equipment to get or how to build up a catalogue of music. I've been told to buy CD decks but don't know if thats good advice.

So looking for some general guidance for equipment and what I need to be doing between now and when I get some. Thanks.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #19 on: December 7, 2011, 12:10:56 am »
Like the OP, I'm looking to try my hand of DJ-ing. Pretty much clueless in terms of what equipment to get or how to build up a catalogue of music. I've been told to buy CD decks but don't know if thats good advice.

So looking for some general guidance for equipment and what I need to be doing between now and when I get some. Thanks.

Apologies for the bump, getting quite urgent now as I could do with them before Christmas, thanks.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #20 on: December 7, 2011, 12:20:20 am »
Dont listen to Capon, hasn't a clue. This is your boy here.

Now it might take a while to master the Play Record button, but you'll get it.


Here's another tip as well because I'm feeling generous, play this THE PARTY WILL NOT STOP
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #21 on: December 7, 2011, 01:20:35 pm »
Like the OP, I'm looking to try my hand of DJ-ing. Pretty much clueless in terms of what equipment to get or how to build up a catalogue of music. I've been told to buy CD decks but don't know if thats good advice.

So looking for some general guidance for equipment and what I need to be doing between now and when I get some. Thanks.


Got just what your looking for!!

2 x Numark TT1 Direct Drive Decks, 1 x 1002DMX Numark Mixer, approx 100 records and a record bag with all Stylus & connecting leads included.

http://en.audiofanzine.com/turntable/numark/PRO-TT1/user_reviews/r.5567.html

hardly used since new......

am about to put these up on ebay and was looking for around £350 all in mate, over a grands worth here the only thing you'll need is a nice pair of headphones....are you local can deliver and can do a deal on the price with you for quick sale if your interested!

Have just tried to upload pics but they too big can email them to you if you want....

i still have these decks for sale, not been used since and not put on ebay yet but will be doing if not rid of them soon....

Will now take £300 for the lot.....
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #22 on: December 7, 2011, 04:00:29 pm »
Have had everything in my time. Two pairs of Technics 1200/10s over the past 20 years, CDJs, Serato etc etc.

Sold everything and now just use my Ipad2. Invested in the Djay App for £14 and it's incredible. Absolutely brilliant for all my mixing and blending needs. I could easily go into a club and do a set using it. Can highly recommend it.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #23 on: December 7, 2011, 08:19:11 pm »
i still have these decks for sale, not been used since and not put on ebay yet but will be doing if not rid of them soon....

Will now take £300 for the lot.....

Thank's for the offer mate, but I think I'm heading for the CDJ route.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #24 on: December 8, 2011, 03:01:07 am »
If you have a laptop or PC (Not to mention the money!) I'd recommend Traktor Scratch ( http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/ ) with a proper pair of decks, here's why...

I bought my first 1210's about 8 years ago and had myself a brief (3 year!) career DJ'ing in town. I saved up and got myself a pair of pioneer CDJ800 mk1's as CD's where meant to be the future of DJ'ing. I'll admit they were handy as you would just rip tunes off the internet and burn them to CD, saving yourself a fortune in record expenses however my CDJ's began having multiple issues after 2-3 years of use. They're currently in bits in a cupboard- the only reason I've still got them is because I seem to believe I'm going to fork out and put them in for a service.

My 1210's are still going strong, a bit less clean looking these days but they still work a treat and are set up in my living room. I no longer have the problem of record expenses as the program lets you drag music files directly onto an actual time-coded vinyl. You also get to use Vinyl which is what it's all about- it's much more fun than CD's and if your just starting out there's no substitute for getting that experience of actually putting your hands on a record.

I think the point I'm trying to make is that CDJ's are pretty much obsolete as a result of this software. Technics 1210's will cost you less than a decent CDJ, last forever, allow you to use records and with the right software still let you use your MP3 collection... without the need for burning CD's.

.... Oh and when you get good the software also lets you broadcast your own web radio stream/ record your mixes which is pretty cool 

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #25 on: December 8, 2011, 10:31:02 am »
Also , how much are new needles? Is there anything else I'd need to buy in addition...

Like I said, complete novice really so a little clueless.

Not sure if this has been said but, dont buy turntables mate there going to be obsoleate soon CDJ's are the way to go plus if you get a decent set that have a USB slot on them you can just put your songs on a pen drive, mobile etc and just access your songs throught that.  With turntables there nothing worse then record a mix then have the needle jump half way through.  A decent set of needle will set you back £80 or £90 and then need replacing every 6 or 7 months depending on there use plus your paying out £50 or £60 every other week for new tunes.  There pricey to buy when you 1st start but trust me (having had Numarls and Technics) you'll reep the benefits of CDJ's in the long run and there a hell of alot more fun if you like scratching and really mixing your tunes up ;)

P.s. you will save alot more space with CDJ's then you will with turntables and a decent mixer :)

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #26 on: December 8, 2011, 02:58:14 pm »
I'd use Traktor with timecode

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #27 on: December 8, 2011, 04:29:44 pm »

Have to disagree with a lot of that mate, you can pick up a decent set of Stanton stylus' for like £30 if you look around online. I currently have dj's 7 nights a week where I'm working- the stylus get changed around every 4-6 months. That works out at around 1200-1500 hours of usage!

As for skipping, vinyl is more reliable than CDs by a country mile. It just doesn't happen unless you put a huge gash into a record. It's easier to scratch a cd than a record. In fact the only time I've had a record skip on me is when some whopper bumps into the decks, whereas CD's play up if they've got a fingerprint on them! Even so you just pick up the needle and put it back where it was before the fat drunk bird interupted you ;). Can't do that with CDs.

Not sure you wooshing me with the scratching being better on CDs either. Any pro Dj who scratches uses vinyl. Ask Dj Yoda or any hip hop Dj worth their salt.

As I allured to in an earlier post, timecoded vinyl is pretty much the industry norm these days- have a look on YouTube at any dj's  you're into live and the chances are you'll see them with their laptop and a pair of technics.  :wave

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2011, 03:15:33 pm »
I'd use Traktor with timecode

Mate of mine has the s4 kontrol i think, he ditched his cdj's for it and hasnt looked back since!
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #29 on: November 7, 2018, 06:27:02 pm »
Bumping this as after some advice.

Looking to invest in a decent controller (likely one of the Pioneer DDJ's) but just had a general question. A lot of the mixes I would like to do rely on full EQ kill - is it the controller or the software (or both) that gives a full kill?
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #30 on: November 7, 2018, 07:29:07 pm »
Bumping this as after some advice.

Looking to invest in a decent controller (likely one of the Pioneer DDJ's) but just had a general question. A lot of the mixes I would like to do rely on full EQ kill - is it the controller or the software (or both) that gives a full kill?

Not got a pioneer, but do have a reloop terminal mix 8 which uses serato pro. It is the serato software that does the work, and the controller is just sending midi data essentially, so although you turn the filter on the device, the software does the business. You generally cannot operate a controller without a laptop. I believe the pioneer ddj1000, which looks pretty good, uses rekordbox software, which is pioneer proprietry, and i never used it. Serato is very good though

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #31 on: November 7, 2018, 08:02:48 pm »
Not got a pioneer, but do have a reloop terminal mix 8 which uses serato pro. It is the serato software that does the work, and the controller is just sending midi data essentially, so although you turn the filter on the device, the software does the business. You generally cannot operate a controller without a laptop. I believe the pioneer ddj1000, which looks pretty good, uses rekordbox software, which is pioneer proprietry, and i never used it. Serato is very good though


Thanks mate, very helpful. I tried Serato way back (last time I was doing anything with this was about 6 years ago) and couldn't get on with it. A lot of the controllers I am looking at have the Rekordbox license so keen to try that.

Mainly though I will likely be using Djay Pro 2 purely for the Spotify integration. That is very helpful though, will do some reading on whether that can full eq kill.
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #32 on: November 7, 2018, 09:32:39 pm »
Thanks mate, very helpful. I tried Serato way back (last time I was doing anything with this was about 6 years ago) and couldn't get on with it. A lot of the controllers I am looking at have the Rekordbox license so keen to try that.

Mainly though I will likely be using Djay Pro 2 purely for the Spotify integration. That is very helpful though, will do some reading on whether that can full eq kill.

No worries. The new serato (in beta right now) has tidal integration btw. Not tried it yet myself

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #33 on: November 8, 2018, 09:57:22 am »
Nobody bother with vinyl anymore? Anyone on here got any Technics 1210's or 1200's?

I miss mine. Wish I'd never sold them.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #34 on: November 8, 2018, 07:08:01 pm »
Nobody bother with vinyl anymore? Anyone on here got any Technics 1210's or 1200's?

I miss mine. Wish I'd never sold them.
We still have our 1210s mate, sold the CD decks when money was tight a few years ago but could never sell those wheels [emoji16]


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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #35 on: November 8, 2018, 08:51:56 pm »
We still have our 1210s mate, sold the CD decks when money was tight a few years ago but could never sell those wheels [emoji16]

Like I said, wish I'd never sold mine. Going to look at buying some more next year If I can. What have you got mkI, mkII's?

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #36 on: November 8, 2018, 10:22:20 pm »
Like I said, wish I'd never sold mine. Going to look at buying some more next year If I can. What have you got mkI, mkII's?
Mk11s mate and they're still the best.

Thing is they hold their value so well they're more expensive now to buy second hand than we paid for them new.

Did you sell your vinyl too then?


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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #37 on: November 9, 2018, 09:43:20 am »
I love my decks and vinyl although i dont have much time to play on them nowadays,ive never got into the cdjs it seems weird but i like digging through my boxes and seeing the sleeve.

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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #38 on: November 9, 2018, 09:48:54 am »
Mk11s mate and they're still the best.

Thing is they hold their value so well they're more expensive now to buy second hand than we paid for them new.

Did you sell your vinyl too then?



Mine were 1210's mkII's. I know about the prices of them at the moment. That's why I haven't bought any more yet. Simply can't afford it.

Sold a load of my old hardcore years ago. About 100 of them. Loads on 'Production House records' label. Loads of promo's a few white labels and test pressings as well. I needed the money at the time. I regret doing that as well now. Not selling anymore. They can collect dust until I find the money to buy some more decks.
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Re: Beginners guide to DJ Equipment
« Reply #39 on: November 9, 2018, 09:59:46 am »
Nobody bother with vinyl anymore? Anyone on here got any Technics 1210's or 1200's?

I miss mine. Wish I'd never sold them.

Sold my 1210s in 1999, and then all my vinyl in 2003. Fell out of love with it towards the end of the 90s. Got back into it a couple of years ago with the cheapest/easiest path being a controller, but wanted one with a decent deck type feel and none of sync business. Still too easy though