Author Topic: SPOILERS The Chainless Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon Discussion (Read 1044147 times)

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11480 on:** March 7, 2019, 12:14:24 am »

Quote from: S on March 7, 2019, 12:07:01 am

I find it a bit weird that when we first see him he's half dead after a Lannister slaughter, and now he's Cersei's most trusted advisor. It's never been brought up. Maybe they'll still revisit that but somehow I doubt there's enough time.

I think they will have more pressing issues this season.

. I am only reading book two at present, so will be interested to see if more explanation was given there. It does raise questions certainly as it was the Starks who rescued him.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #11481 on:** March 7, 2019, 01:36:57 am »

Quote from: royhendo on March 6, 2019, 03:06:02 pm

That's true (hello btw mate!)... it felt like the trip beyond the wall last season started to sow seeds about how that whole side of things might work...

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...in terms of Night King makes Walkers/Others, Others control Whites, if you kill a Walker/Other the Whites they reanimated or have control over disintegrate on the spot... whites if captured squeal for help... Walkers have feelings... none of them seem to be able to cross water...

And then of course they made massive dragon ice spears, and, erm... chains. And boyo is linked to Bran... and the Children can stop Walker assaults from being fatal, but you end up a perma-zombie in return... but maybe only if you're a Stark...

That's why the idea of it ending up at the God's Eye is a maybe - loads of Children, loads of Werewood net action, loads of 'Aaah that's how we unplug them all from the mains' stuff maybe.
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Good to see you back, Roy.

As Tepid says, I don't think there's a need for spoilers when it comes to just surmising shit that could happen, so I'll crack on. Aye, the God's Eye thing has sort of already been done in one scenario from the previous series where John and the boys went north to capture a wight and ended up stranded on a small island in the middle of a lake. Thing is, all that episode did was make me wonder why the walkers and the wights are bound to such strict rules, like a videogame or something, where the Night King is so powerful, he brings temperatures so cold, he can freeze water. In fact, he should be able to do that by just touching it, unless there's a load of lore regarding what they can and cant do I'm not aware of that the show doesn't make clear. It sort of threw a spanner in the works, and I'm not sure if it was intentional or just bad writing. If there's one thing the show could expand on a little more, it's on who or what they are, and their motives. They pretty much seem to be a bit robotic in nature, and a bit linear in thinking, strategy wise. We also only ever get to see a couple on screen at any one time, when there are potentially, what? Thousands of them? Maybe they're saving that for the inevitable prequel story.

Ray K · « **Reply #11482 on:** March 7, 2019, 07:41:07 am »

I may have watched an hour long break down of a two minute trailer from the Binge Mode guys.
I regret nothing.

El Lobo · « **Reply #11483 on:** March 7, 2019, 07:42:53 am »

Quote from: jillc on March 7, 2019, 12:14:24 am

I think they will have more pressing issues this season. . I am only reading book two at present, so will be interested to see if more explanation was given there. It does raise questions certainly as it was the Starks who rescued him.

Hmmm yeah that’s true actually

Did he not get sent to Kings Landing with Jaime, and then concocted the golden hand idea? I defo remember him butchering Jaimes stump.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11484 on:** March 7, 2019, 07:54:48 am »

Quote from: Eel Lobo on March 7, 2019, 07:42:53 am

Hmmm yeah that’s true actually

Did he not get sent to Kings Landing with Jaime, and then concocted the golden hand idea? I defo remember him butchering Jaimes stump.

I am struggling to remember now to be honest, but that seems the most likely thing.

royhendo · « **Reply #11485 on:** March 7, 2019, 08:27:45 am »

So no spoilers? No spoilers it is then.

I forgot about when Qyburn first turned up. They found him in the pile of bodies at Harrenhal right enough. More to him than the Mengele-style scientific fanaticism?

S · « **Reply #11486 on:** March 7, 2019, 12:47:20 pm »

Quote from: Eel Lobo on March 7, 2019, 07:42:53 am

Hmmm yeah that’s true actually

Did he not get sent to Kings Landing with Jaime, and then concocted the golden hand idea? I defo remember him butchering Jaimes stump.

We talking about the show here?

Robb finds him when he first arrives at Harrenhal with Catelyn, Talisa and Roose Bolton. They save him. Next time you see him he's with Roose again, when Jaime and Brienne are brought to him. He cleans up Jaime's hand, then travels with the group that escorts him back to Kings Landing. That was the end of season three I think. At the beginning of season four he's already made the golden hand and is also helping Cersei out. After earning her trust he just works his way up.

Like I said, there's surely not enough time to revisit him in much detail. Just find it strange that the fact he was attacked by Lannisters and saved by Starks hasn't been addressed.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11487 on:** March 7, 2019, 04:27:49 pm »

Quote from: S on March 7, 2019, 12:47:20 pm

We talking about the show here?

Robb finds him when he first arrives at Harrenhal with Catelyn, Talisa and Roose Bolton. They save him. Next time you see him he's with Roose again, when Jaime and Brienne are brought to him. He cleans up Jaime's hand, then travels with the group that escorts him back to Kings Landing. That was the end of season three I think. At the beginning of season four he's already made the golden hand and is also helping Cersei out. After earning her trust he just works his way up.

Like I said, there's surely not enough time to revisit him in much detail. Just find it strange that the fact he was attacked by Lannisters and saved by Starks hasn't been addressed.

That explains it nicely thanks. I was talking about the show originally, I'm still reading through A Clash of Kings so wasn't sure if it was the same in the book and TV show.

oojason · « **Reply #11488 on:** March 8, 2019, 01:15:15 am »

Alt Shift X's 'Game of Thrones Season 8 Trailer Explained':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/3HM1oz4Yalk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/3HM1oz4Yalk</a>

^ with his usual quality insights and dry wit

royhendo · « **Reply #11489 on:** March 8, 2019, 03:53:41 pm »

Vladimir Furdik (new Night King) interview: https://ew.com/tv/2019/03/07/night-king-game-of-thrones-interview/

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Quote

What does the Night King want, anyway?
Somebody made him the Night King. Nobody knows who he was before — a soldier or part of [nobility]. He never wanted to be the Night King. I think he wants revenge. Everybody in this story has two sides — a bad side and a good side. The Night King only has one side, a bad side. [/i]

What can we expect from him in the final season?
People will see he has a target he wants to kill, and you will find out who that is. There’s also that moment [in “Hardhome”] when Jon Snow was on the boat and the Night King looked at him and raised his arms — there’s a similar and even stronger moment between Jon and the Night King this time.[/i]

Who's the target?

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ChrisOH · « **Reply #11490 on:** March 8, 2019, 04:38:43 pm »

Quote from: oojason on March 8, 2019, 01:15:15 am

Alt Shift X's 'Game of Thrones Season 8 Trailer Explained':-

^ with his usual quality insights and dry wit

Is it just me that hates this chad? New Rockstars do far better breakdowns

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11491 on:** March 8, 2019, 05:50:06 pm »

Quote from: royhendo on March 8, 2019, 03:53:41 pm

Vladimir Furdik (new Night King) interview: https://ew.com/tv/2019/03/07/night-king-game-of-thrones-interview/

Spoiler

Who's the target?
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A Stark maybe? He touched Bran a couple of series ago or maybe he knows about Jon?

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #11492 on:** March 8, 2019, 10:19:14 pm »

Just watched the trailer for season 8. Seeing the Unsullied marching in the North brings home the cataclysm to come.

But only two dragons pre -viewed but is that too clues to mentioning chains?

Trada · « **Reply #11493 on:** March 12, 2019, 05:25:29 pm »

Dont know if this has been mentioned but the final season is not all feature film length Episodes the first will run for 54 minutes, while Episode 2 will run for 58.

But they are saying the last 4 will run around 80 mins.

royhendo · « **Reply #11494 on:** March 12, 2019, 07:34:31 pm »

Wish they were all feature length!

Spoiler

Is Tyrion a Targaryen then?

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oojason · « **Reply #11495 on:** March 13, 2019, 02:21:05 am »

Quote from: royhendo on March 12, 2019, 07:34:31 pm

Wish they were all feature length!

Spoiler
Is Tyrion a Targaryen then?
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Possibly

Inside Game of Thrones: A Story in Prosthetics – BTS (HBO):-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/f3MUpuRF6Ck" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/f3MUpuRF6Ck</a>

For the length of each episode you may wish to keep an eye on these links... (I'd guess the episodes with 60 and 80 minutes may yet still change in length, slightly

)

801 - 54 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811555

802 - 58 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811556

803 - ~~60 minutes.~~ 82 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811557

804 - 78 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811558

805 - 80 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811559

806 - 80 minutes. https://www.hbo.com/schedule?focusId=811560

^ credit to the freefolk as ever, and especially alcasinoroyale.

royhendo · « **Reply #11496 on:** March 13, 2019, 12:39:47 pm »

Quote from: oojason on March 13, 2019, 02:21:05 am

Possibly

Spoiler

Winterfell a massive egg, Godzilla style dragon set to hatch from it?

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BTW just got onto the Lucifer Means Lightbringer stuff about the Joseph Campbell style archetypal mythology thematic foundation for the books. It's mind blowingly good. I'm now reading the books (and consequently on the wrong thread).

oojason · « **Reply #11497 on:** March 19, 2019, 12:57:54 am »

Inside Game of Thrones: A Story in Stunts – BTS (HBO)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/4O6PoiVgKxU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/4O6PoiVgKxU</a>

royhendo · « **Reply #11498 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:14:04 am »

https://twitter.com/jenshames/status/1108165344789757953

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11499 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:13:38 pm »

Isn't it about time we had a predictions thread for the last series? Who'll die? Who'll survive? Who end up on the Iron Throne? Who will kill the Night King?

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #11500 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:20:33 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 20, 2019, 11:13:38 pm

Isn't it about time we had a predictions thread for the last series? Who'll die? Who'll survive? Who end up on the Iron Throne? Who will kill the Night King?

Lyanna Mormont will be the only survivor

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #11501 on:** March 20, 2019, 11:32:54 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on March 20, 2019, 11:20:33 pm

Lyanna Mormont will be the only survivor

Well she is fierce enough to survive, would love to see her take on a white walker.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #11502 on:** March 21, 2019, 12:07:08 am »

Ser Pounce will kill the Night King.

royhendo · « **Reply #11503 on:** March 21, 2019, 07:53:05 am »

Ser Pounce RIP.

Wights sack Winterfell
AKIRA explodes Neo Tokyo (AKA something from the Winterfell crypts bum rushes everyone's show).
Jon and Dani chase NK on their dragons away up to the unmapped bit for Top Gun style dogfight (Dani points at the NK and says, "Wanna know who the best is? That's him. Ice Man. It's the way he flies. Ice cold. No mistakes.")
Jon kills NK but has to sacrifice Auntie Dani. (Says to NK, "That's right, Ice Man. I am dangerous.")
Bran makes Jon full on ice zombie and he has to go and stay icy for the next 8,000 years.
Bran gets sucked into the Weirwood net like the Lawnmower Man.
Howland Reed appears and says hi.
Brienne shags Tormund.
Arya shags Gendry.
Mountain shags/kills Hound.
Arya kills Mountain.
Arya kills Mark Gatiss.
Arya uses Mark Gatiss's face to kill Cersei with an overdue invoice.
Arya kills all the faceless men for boring everybody for too long in the middle of it all.
Sansa ends up on the Iron Throne.

royhendo · « **Reply #11504 on:** March 21, 2019, 07:54:56 am »

Whole thing is revealed to be an enormous Top Gun tribute metaphor.

Dubred · « **Reply #11505 on:** March 21, 2019, 10:17:44 am »

Pamela Ewing wakes up and realises it was all a damn dream

S · « **Reply #11506 on:** March 21, 2019, 01:38:27 pm »

If Jorah dies, which he likely will, I hope he gets a good farewell. Best character in the whole thing for me.

oojason · « **Reply #11507 on:** March 21, 2019, 03:56:39 pm »

Samwell Tarly for the Throne - move over Jon Snow...

There may be an overview (with some spoilers) for episode 1 leaking tonight - maybe... Those who don't kneel and know of Friki... will know.

oojason · « **Reply #11508 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:09:59 pm »

the poster for Season 8...

https://twitter.com/GameOfThrones/status/1108745177471033344

Sky Atlantic will be doing a live 2am simulcast on Monday morning (15th April) for the 1st episode... https://twitter.com/skyatlantic/status/1108741532121735170

Shite Name · « **Reply #11509 on:** March 21, 2019, 08:48:36 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 20, 2019, 11:13:38 pm

Isn't it about time we had a predictions thread for the last series? Who'll die? Who'll survive? Who end up on the Iron Throne? Who will kill the Night King?

I think that Cersei is that hell bent on being on the Throne that she’s mad enough to want to marry the Night King.

Personally I want the Night King to win and hopefully the very last scene will be all the surviving characters just rotting away behind him.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #11510 on:** March 21, 2019, 08:51:14 pm »

Quote from: Shite Name on March 21, 2019, 08:48:36 pm

I think that Cersei is that hell bent on being on the Throne that she’s mad enough to want to marry the Night King.

Personally I want the Night King to win and hopefully the very last scene will be all the surviving characters just rotting away behind him.

Night King sits on Iron Throne,clicks fingers and every member of his dead army and the only people on the planet standing drops down,camera cuts back to Night King who open a book and for the 1st time ever is able to read in peace and quiet.

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #11511 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:02:59 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on March 21, 2019, 08:51:14 pm

Night King sits on Iron Throne,clicks fingers and every member of his dead army and the only people on the planet standing drops down,camera cuts back to Night King who open a book and for the 1st time ever is able to read in peace and quiet.

As long as he’s not hoping to read the entire ASOIAF series.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11512 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:06:03 pm »

Trouble is that I can’t remember who anyone is.

And I wasn’t great on names in the first place.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #11513 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:14:38 pm »

Get this season right and it'll go down as best show ever surely?

TepidT2O · « **Reply #11514 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:16:00 pm »

Quote from: The G in Gerrard on March 21, 2019, 09:14:38 pm

Get this season right and it'll go down as best show ever surely?

It’s tits, minge and evisceration with a bit of good acting thrown in. I wouldn’t go over the top. It’s great fun, but lacks depth.

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #11515 on:** March 21, 2019, 10:12:48 pm »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 21, 2019, 09:16:00 pm

It’s tits, minge and evisceration

That should be the tagline for the show. It's entertainment and it ticks all the right boxes so to speak. Doesn't need to anything more.

Ray K · « **Reply #11516 on:** March 21, 2019, 10:15:02 pm »

Piece by Emilia Clarke in the New Yorker. She suffered a serious brain aneurysm after filming S1 requiring emergency surgery and then had a recurrence that required more serious surgery after S3. Lucky to make it through really.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/emilia-clarke-a-battle-for-my-life-brain-aneurysm-surgery-game-of-thrones

Brian Blessed · « **Reply #11517 on:** March 21, 2019, 11:09:12 pm »

Quote from: S on March 21, 2019, 01:38:27 pm

If Jorah dies, which he likely will, I hope he gets a good farewell. Best character in the whole thing for me.

Is that Sur Friendzone? Yes, he’s an absolute goner.

royhendo · « **Reply #11518 on:** March 22, 2019, 06:42:33 am »

Quote from: Preserved for posterity. on March 21, 2019, 09:16:00 pm

It’s tits, minge and evisceration with a bit of good acting thrown in. I wouldn’t go over the top. It’s great fun, but lacks depth.

Its depth is its best quality, but it’s nicely tucked away.

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #11519 on:** March 22, 2019, 12:34:44 pm »

Quote from: jillc on March 20, 2019, 11:13:38 pm

Isn't it about time we had a predictions thread for the last series? Who'll die? Who'll survive? Who end up on the Iron Throne? Who will kill the Night King?

Cersei refuses to relinquish her throne. She makes a speech from a lectern outside the Red Keep to tell everyone that Brexit means Brexit, then keeps having a vote in her special council, where they vote against her deal, but she keeps taking another vote as if the previous voting defeats have never happens.

The Night King is revealed as Donald Trump.

The chains get their own backstory, with rumours of a spin-off series.

That's all I have.