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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #200 on: December 23, 2021, 01:34:11 pm »
Apparently the entire Leeds squad got their boosters this week. Maybe a few are groggy after that as well.
the bbc says that they had five new positives amongst staff and players.

Add to the players already isolating and their horrific injury situation and the fact that public health England have closed their triangular ground, and it’s not surprising  the game is off.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #201 on: December 23, 2021, 01:36:47 pm »
This was 3 points in the bag imo

No such thing.

Mixed feelings about it myself, there are lots of negatives to the game being called off, but on balance I'm leaning towards being glad for the players' sake that we won't be playing twice in 48 hours. This might even work out better for us in the long run.

Funny that some are already crying about being stitched up with the rescheduled fixture date, even though we have no idea when that's likely to be yet. As things stand, there are no guarantees about the situation staying the same from one week to the next. Let's just wait and see.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #202 on: December 23, 2021, 01:37:16 pm »
Until (yeah right!) the premier league start policing this, there will always be this assumption that teams are not being overly honest and are using a situation to their advantage when they have a lot of injuries and a lot of games to play.

It’s the PL that needs to be front and centre here, until then any suggestions teams are gaming the system will carry on.

The vagueness is unlreal. Like Leeds apparently have ‘5 cases amongst players and staff’, but somewhere else I read ‘7 cases’.  No mention of who those players are - who the staff are - coaches, trainers, cooks?  Who knows.



Unfortunately, as it's medical information they are allowed to keep it private, as with the vaccination status. We would have to use trust in the policing bodies that they have enough players out to cause postponement.

Training grounds could get closed for any reason, not just because of an out break amongst players. They could close them because they have no security staff or no admin staff. It's hard looking in from the outside to understand why they are doing these things.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #203 on: December 23, 2021, 01:38:56 pm »
Klopp may be happy with the extended break, but would’ve fancied a 6 point return v Leeds and Leicester given the respective issues both have with injuries.  And obviously it’s another game to squeeze in somewhere.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #204 on: December 23, 2021, 01:39:19 pm »
I presume this means Robertson misses Chelsea, through no fault of our own.

What a mess.

Robertson is missing the games he's missing entirely through his own fault.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #205 on: December 23, 2021, 01:42:11 pm »
Apparently the entire Leeds squad got their boosters this week. Maybe a few are groggy after that as well.

Odds on quite a few would be down as ill if this happened, they wouldn't even show amongst the COVID casualties so add them on top with quite a few normal injuries in the mix as well and I can see why Leeds have a major problem fielding a team. All gravy to us IMO.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #206 on: December 23, 2021, 01:43:13 pm »
Everton didn’t get theirs postponed

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Benitez says he has nine senior outfield players, three goalkeepers and then youngsters available for Burnley.
"We have six injuries and five players with Covid," said the Everton manager.
"I think it is not fair."
Benitez says Lucas Digne is available at the moment.

Everyone gets injuries FFS, just get on with it and stop moaning….  (Isn’t that the line?)
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #207 on: December 23, 2021, 01:45:06 pm »
Everton didn’t get theirs postponed

:lmao

Makes a mockery of the entire competition.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #208 on: December 23, 2021, 01:47:31 pm »
Unfortunately this season is actually more of a mess than the 19/20 one if this continues. City could well get a 9 point lead with us having to go to Chelsea with no Robertson, Mo or Mane.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #209 on: December 23, 2021, 01:47:59 pm »
Gutted...love the Boxing Day games...it's always the first game I look for when the fixtures are released....  :(
Same to be honest.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #210 on: December 23, 2021, 01:50:05 pm »
Fixed it a bit for you mate.  :D

Unfortunately this season is actually more of a mess than the 19/20 one if this continues. City could well get a 9 point lead with us having to go to Chelsea with no Robertson.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #211 on: December 23, 2021, 01:50:36 pm »
I'd be interested to know how the PL are monitoring this and what verification they are requiring before agreeing to a postponement.

Could be an easy get-out if a team choses.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #212 on: December 23, 2021, 01:52:02 pm »
Robertson is missing the games he's missing entirely through his own fault.

But only Chelsea because of this postponement

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #213 on: December 23, 2021, 01:52:33 pm »
Unfortunately it means Abu Dhabi will have a nice 6 point lead before we play again.
Their hugely expensive squad full of international players will likely see them through to another Covid *title.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #214 on: December 23, 2021, 01:55:07 pm »
Great - now we can concentrate on absolutely smashing Leicester at their's. Bonus.

We can beat Leeds any day of the week.

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« Reply #215 on: December 23, 2021, 01:57:35 pm »
Great - now we can concentrate on absolutely smashing Leicester at their's. Bonus.

We can beat Leeds any day of the week.

That is true. Just hoping when we play behind closed doors (inevitable soon IMO) it doesn't derail us to the same extent it did last time.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #216 on: December 23, 2021, 01:59:32 pm »
That is true. Just hoping when we play behind closed doors (inevitable soon IMO) it doesn't derail us to the same extent it did last time.

I don't think its inevitable and if anything the fixture list means it shouldn't be such a long lasting issue? There are only 3 league games in January and don't we just have 1 home game in the league?

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #217 on: December 23, 2021, 02:01:22 pm »
Oh no! This is disappointing (and inevitable) Means I'm going to have to spend Boxing day with the family playing games, drinking and watching rubbish films

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #218 on: December 23, 2021, 02:02:25 pm »
Unfortunately this season is actually more of a mess than the 19/20 one if this continues. City could well get a 9 point lead with us having to go to Chelsea with no Robertson, Mo or Mane.
Well, City pretty much manipulated a mid season break last season when they were struggling, they came back and went on a big winning run.

Just means we have to smash Leicester again, then be fresh for Chelsea

Can only hope now that Villa give Chelsea a torrid game and the Brighton who turned up at ours appears there.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #219 on: December 23, 2021, 02:04:03 pm »
On the minor plus side it was going to be shown on BT sports so that will have disappointed that dickhead Jake Humphrey.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #220 on: December 23, 2021, 02:04:47 pm »
Reckon the players might get a rare Christmas day off too. I can only see upside in this. Except for the Afcon lads being gone for the rescheduled one.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #221 on: December 23, 2021, 02:07:46 pm »
Whinge whinge whinge whinge whinge.

So many people on here aren't just glass half full, they're glass completely empty.

If you're worried about being able to beat a Leeds team even at full strength then supporting this team isn't for you.

Shut up ye tit.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #222 on: December 23, 2021, 02:08:50 pm »
No one thought it was a tad harsh when we had to play Nat Phillips, Rhys Williams for long spells last season, or play kids against Villa in the league Cup.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #223 on: December 23, 2021, 02:14:26 pm »
But only Chelsea because of this postponement

Do you think he was calculating which games he would miss when he made his challenge? Very different situation to Milner's tactical booking the other week. He doesn't get to pick and choose which games he misses, and moaning about it is not a good look. I'm sure we won't hear Robbo himself complaining.

Anyway, we have a very capable deputy in Tsimikas, so it's far from being a disaster.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #224 on: December 23, 2021, 02:14:55 pm »
Robertson is missing the games he's missing entirely through his own fault.


Wait, wait, wait. Waitttttt. You’re not saying you thought that was an actual sane red card offense?  Because I thought it was a yellow and absolute farce that they slowed it down and watched it forward and back 690 times to arrive at the red card. Whereas Kane….

Point being I could greet you warmly, give you a big pat on the back, and if we slow mo’ed it and played it back and forth 690 freaking times it would look like I was assaulting you.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #225 on: December 23, 2021, 02:16:33 pm »
you are in no position to tell others what to say or how to behave on this forum to be honest.

This is a lot more polite that I would’ve been!
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #226 on: December 23, 2021, 02:22:12 pm »
Wait, wait, wait. Waitttttt. You’re not saying you thought that was an actual sane red card offense?  Because I thought it was a yellow and absolute farce that they slowed it down and watched it forward and back 690 times to arrive at the red card. Whereas Kane….

I don't think it's one we can complain about too strongly, it just felt a bit harsh in light of Kane getting away with his one.

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Point being I could greet you warmly, give you a big pat on the back, and if we slow mo’ed it and played it back and forth 690 freaking times it would look like I was assaulting you.

No, the point is that Robbo went in recklessly when he really didn't need to. Whether you agree with the decision or not, the situation was of his own making and avoidable.

Therefore the games he misses as a consequence are entirely on his shoulders. And there's no point moaning about the timing of the fixtures and which games he misses.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #227 on: December 23, 2021, 02:22:46 pm »
This is good new surly? We’re in this for the long run

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #228 on: December 23, 2021, 02:33:04 pm »
At least we should be fresh for the Leicester game - it will be fascinating to see the difference in the Leicester teams between our game and their game with City.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #229 on: December 23, 2021, 02:34:38 pm »
Injuries or Covid ?
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #230 on: December 23, 2021, 02:35:31 pm »
Until (yeah right!) the premier league start policing this, there will always be this assumption that teams are not being overly honest and are using a situation to their advantage when they have a lot of injuries and a lot of games to play.

It’s the PL that needs to be front and centre here, until then any suggestions teams are gaming the system will carry on.

The vagueness is unlreal. Like Leeds apparently have ‘5 cases amongst players and staff’, but somewhere else I read ‘7 cases’.  No mention of who those players are - who the staff are - coaches, trainers, cooks?  Who knows.

Agree that the information we receive as fans is flimsy, but you presume the PL is requesting thorough information to call off a game - bearing in mind clubs with strong cases have had their pleas rejected.

It surely isn't a case of a Chief Exec of a club phoning the PL and saying 'sorry lad, we can't play this weekend as we've had six more positive COVID tests. Nah, can't give you names, just trust us'.

The problem, as always, is perception. We can't see the discussions, so we can't trust it. Personally I think clubs should have to name players with COVID, as to me it's no different than someone being out with the flu or a twisted ankle or whatever. I think one of the key issues is vaccinated versus unvaccinated. Read the statement from the PL closely today and it becomes clear:

"The Board concluded that Leeds will not be able to fulfil their fixture this weekend due to the number of players with COVID-19, injuries and illness. The club’s training ground has also been closed after consultation with the UK Health Security Agency and the Premier League. Watford continue to have an insufficient number of players to field a team after their match against Crystal Palace last Saturday was postponed following a COVID-19 outbreak."


Leeds can't field a team because of players who actually have COVID (plus injuries and other illnesses). Watford, on the other hand, 'can't field a team'. Notice the difference? Heavily rumoured Watford have lots of unvaccinated players, so their issue is almost certainly that those players are isolating because they're a close contact, rather than because they actually have COVID. That to me is a disgrace, and IMO Watford should be made to play the game regardless. The idiocy of their players is what's leading to them not playing, rather than players actually testing positive.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #232 on: December 23, 2021, 02:37:40 pm »
Leeds have 10 players injured, they’ve taken advantage of a few players getting covid here.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #233 on: December 23, 2021, 02:39:17 pm »
Leeds have 10 players injured, they’ve taken advantage of a few players getting covid here.

Same for all sides who asked for cancellations.

We have the first choice midfield and best CB in world missing against Spurs but had to play.

It’s a farce.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #234 on: December 23, 2021, 02:44:53 pm »
Orange juice in the lateral flow tests from Leeds.
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« Reply #235 on: December 23, 2021, 02:46:23 pm »
Gutted as was going but imagine the club was quietly not bothered.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #237 on: December 23, 2021, 02:55:17 pm »
Good luck getting a World Cup on next year by the way. Teams are going to need to have 50 man squads to cope.
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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #238 on: December 23, 2021, 02:56:55 pm »
Is the AFCON tournament going to go ahead?

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/africa-cup-of-nations-2022-fifa-cancelled-postponed-gianni-infantino-1360588

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yes it is, there’s a thread about in in the general sports forum with the latest on it from yesterday.

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Re: Liverpool v Leeds. Boxing Day. Postponed due to COVID.
« Reply #239 on: December 23, 2021, 02:57:14 pm »
Is the AFCON tournament going to go ahead?

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/africa-cup-of-nations-2022-fifa-cancelled-postponed-gianni-infantino-1360588

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They can't be sending players away when all this shit is happening. It's farcical at this stage..
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