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« Reply #55680 on: July 16, 2019, 11:23:07 pm »
Would Mark Sandford stand a chance against Trump or would the mere act of challenging him for the nomination topple a few dominoes?

Really sounds like things may come to a head.
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« Reply #55681 on: July 16, 2019, 11:38:07 pm »
One of these is blatant. The other is more subtle. Same values.
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"Man, President Trump's Twitter account has been pure fire lately. This might be the funniest thing he's ever tweeted. This is the kind of WHITE NATIONALISM we elected him for," wrote Andrew Anglin on his Daily Stormer site -- one of the most highly trafficked neo-Nazi websites.

"And we're obviously seeing it only because there's another election coming up. But I'll tell you, even knowing that, it still feels so good."

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House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said at a news conference that he did not believe Trump's tweets were racist. "I believe this is about ideology; this is about socialism versus freedom," McCarthy said.

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« Reply #55682 on: July 17, 2019, 01:06:57 am »
Ugh, always cringe when a politician - especially American - talks about "freedom". It's invariably a euphemism for "embrace Conservativism, Christianity and Capitalism or fuck off"

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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55683 on: July 17, 2019, 02:10:18 am »
Would Mark Sandford stand a chance against Trump or would the mere act of challenging him for the nomination topple a few dominoes?

Really sounds like things may come to a head.

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« Reply #55684 on: July 17, 2019, 02:42:25 am »
Today was the one year anniversary of the infamous Helsinki summit. Seems like a lifetime ago

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« Reply #55685 on: July 17, 2019, 02:44:27 am »
Would Mark Sandford stand a chance against Trump or would the mere act of challenging him for the nomination topple a few dominoes?

Really sounds like things may come to a head.

Moron. He wants to cut spending. Doesn't think the tax cut expanded the deficit. Won't call out what Trump said as racist.
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« Reply #55686 on: July 17, 2019, 02:45:59 am »
Norwich City have a bigger chance of winning the Premier League next season.

Norwich is at least an honest football team with some kind of plan.
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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55687 on: July 17, 2019, 03:54:09 am »
One of these is blatant. The other is more subtle. Same values.

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« Reply #55688 on: July 17, 2019, 04:08:18 am »
Looking at the news, it appears(depressingly) that The Orange Shitball is doing an effective job of uniting his base. On the other side progressives have the opposite problem. There are SO many stripes in the 'rainbow' coalition and each stripe will ONLY vote for a candidate who ticks all THEIR boxes. How is it that Trump is not having the galvanising effect on progressives that Obama had on the (alt)right? I can only shake my head from afar. If he wins again, and it's looking like he will, there will probably be some kind of confrontation with Iran and/or China and maybe even Venezuela. We're fucked if he wins.
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« Reply #55689 on: July 17, 2019, 04:21:26 am »
^ I'm more inclined to believe he's ramping up the tension with Iran as an election tactic (dog whistles, waved flags and the old "don't change drivers in the middle of the race" tactic Dubya thrived on), then afterwards he will revert to isolationism and self enrichment.

Edit: and racism, and misogyny, and terrible grammar, and burgers with tyrants, etc.
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« Reply #55690 on: July 17, 2019, 04:23:22 am »
The Dems are the United of politics - once and recently glorious, but can't get their act together now because too many people want their peace of the pie and can't unite like they did behind the last leader. But if they could get a consensus on how to move forward, they have the resources to become the big players again.

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« Reply #55691 on: July 17, 2019, 04:23:25 am »


the twitter politician thing is a good shout, have seen people talk of her as someone to run in 2024 when you are essentially looking for her to do a trump (ie someone totally unqualified for the top job running because they’re good at making their points on social media), whilst at the same time finding the notion of trump being president crazy yet AOC being a great choice in 5 years time

Both of them being unqualified from a lack of govt service perspective is about where the similarities end. That people find Trump being president crazy has less to do with his CV and more to do with his lack of intelligence, character, aptitude, focus, foibles, respect, cogent philosophy, etc. She doesn't share that from what I've seen thusfar.

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« Reply #55692 on: July 17, 2019, 04:35:33 am »
Looking at the news, it appears(depressingly) that The Orange Shitball is doing an effective job of uniting his base. On the other side progressives have the opposite problem. There are SO many stripes in the 'rainbow' coalition and each stripe will ONLY vote for a candidate who ticks all THEIR boxes. How is it that Trump is not having the galvanising effect on progressives that Obama had on the (alt)right? I can only shake my head from afar. If he wins again, and it's looking like he will, there will probably be some kind of confrontation with Iran and/or China and maybe even Venezuela. We're fucked if he wins.

Why is it a problem for people to be passionate about the candidate that best represents their own views? The race against Trump doesn't start till next summer, for now they are racing against each other. And given the charged atmosphere and how pivotal this election is shaping up to be, it's a good thing for these candidates to have passionate support.
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« Reply #55693 on: July 17, 2019, 05:16:30 am »
Looking at the news, it appears(depressingly) that The Orange Shitball is doing an effective job of uniting his base. On the other side progressives have the opposite problem. There are SO many stripes in the 'rainbow' coalition and each stripe will ONLY vote for a candidate who ticks all THEIR boxes. How is it that Trump is not having the galvanising effect on progressives that Obama had on the (alt)right? I can only shake my head from afar. If he wins again, and it's looking like he will, there will probably be some kind of confrontation with Iran and/or China and maybe even Venezuela. We're fucked if he wins.

It's the primaries.  The democrats are competing against each other so of course they look divided - they are.  They should be voting for the candidate that ticks their boxes.  Then next year they vote for whoever is against Trump.
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« Reply #55694 on: July 17, 2019, 05:42:04 am »
Hope you guys are proved correct. It's not a problem for people to be passionate about THEIR guy/girl. However if that candidate doesn't make it to run against Trump, will they still support the candidate that does? What the right in the US has proven is that whoever comes through their primaries, they still turn out to vote for the GOP candidate. From where I'm sitting and watching, that doesn't appear to hold true for the left.
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« Reply #55695 on: July 17, 2019, 05:56:41 am »
Looking at the news, it appears(depressingly) that The Orange Shitball is doing an effective job of uniting his base. On the other side progressives have the opposite problem. There are SO many stripes in the 'rainbow' coalition and each stripe will ONLY vote for a candidate who ticks all THEIR boxes. How is it that Trump is not having the galvanising effect on progressives that Obama had on the (alt)right? I can only shake my head from afar. If he wins again, and it's looking like he will, there will probably be some kind of confrontation with Iran and/or China and maybe even Venezuela. We're fucked if he wins.

Whilst that is a major concern of mine as well, the Republicans were a shit show this time around in 2015 as well. Lots of candidates, insults flying around everywhere, candidates saying they wouldn't support Trump if he was the nominee - it was a total mess. However, once he had the nomination secured they all fell in line. Every single one of them. I'd wait to see the noises coming out of progressives and the like after the new year, but if it's more of what I'm hearing now then I'd be concerned.

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« Reply #55696 on: July 17, 2019, 06:04:09 am »
Looking at the news, it appears(depressingly) that The Orange Shitball is doing an effective job of uniting his base. On the other side progressives have the opposite problem. There are SO many stripes in the 'rainbow' coalition and each stripe will ONLY vote for a candidate who ticks all THEIR boxes. How is it that Trump is not having the galvanising effect on progressives that Obama had on the (alt)right? I can only shake my head from afar. If he wins again, and it's looking like he will, there will probably be some kind of confrontation with Iran and/or China and maybe even Venezuela. We're fucked if he wins.

The Dems are in the middle of a vibrant leadership race. There is not just one candidate on the left or right of the spectrum. There will not be a coronation. They will rally around the eventual winner.

Trump can't win this thing with just his base.
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« Reply #55697 on: July 17, 2019, 06:10:26 am »
Hope you guys are proved correct. It's not a problem for people to be passionate about THEIR guy/girl. However if that candidate doesn't make it to run against Trump, will they still support the candidate that does? What the right in the US has proven is that whoever comes through their primaries, they still turn out to vote for the GOP candidate. From where I'm sitting and watching, that doesn't appear to hold true for the left.

It didn't in 2016 because it was Independent Social Democrat Bernie vs Queen of the Clinton Machine Hillary.

This is a far more even and lively race. If Bernie loses, lots of those folks will be happy with Warren for example.
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« Reply #55698 on: July 17, 2019, 06:47:29 am »
the twitter politician thing is a good shout, have seen people talk of her as someone to run in 2024 when you are essentially looking for her to do a trump (ie someone totally unqualified for the top job running because they’re good at making their points on social media), whilst at the same time finding the notion of trump being president crazy yet AOC being a great choice in 5 years time

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« Reply #55699 on: July 17, 2019, 10:43:49 am »
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"...Trump also took credit for an energy facility that he is not responsible for.

"Our LNG plants; I just left Louisiana, cut a ribbon for a $10 billion LNG plant that's so incredible people wouldn't believe it. It was many, many years trying to get permits, they couldn't get the permits, but we got the permits and we got it very rapidly."

Facts First: The permits for the facility Trump visited were granted by the Obama administration.

Trump spoke at Sempra Energy's Cameron liquefied natural gas export facility in Louisiana in May. The company says on its website: "The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission authorized the project in June 2014." The company confirmed to FactCheck.org: "You are correct, Cameron LNG was approved in 2014..."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/16/politics/donald-trump-fact-check-cabinet-meeting/index.html
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« Reply #55700 on: July 17, 2019, 10:57:32 am »
You guys are putting a glossy spin on the Dem primaries thus far. The biggest moment so far has been a fucking race row about an issue that was relevant 40 years ago.

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« Reply #55701 on: July 17, 2019, 11:14:39 am »
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“What’s your ethnicity?” Kellyanne Conway asks a reporter when the reporter asks her about the intent of the president’s tweets.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1151181198745636867
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« Reply #55702 on: July 17, 2019, 12:05:29 pm »
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“What’s your ethnicity?” Kellyanne Conway asks a reporter when the reporter asks her about the intent of the president’s tweets.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1151181198745636867

Really?! Just wow...... :o

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« Reply #55703 on: July 17, 2019, 01:28:21 pm »
You guys are putting a glossy spin on the Dem primaries thus far. The biggest moment so far has been a fucking race row about an issue that was relevant 40 years ago.

Bussing wasn't the issue. It was his poor response that was really the issue.
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« Reply #55704 on: July 17, 2019, 01:31:02 pm »
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“What’s your ethnicity?” Kellyanne Conway asks a reporter when the reporter asks her about the intent of the president’s tweets.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1151181198745636867


Meanwhile her husband...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-conway-trump-is-a-racist-president/2019/07/15/b13c0bd4-a740-11e9-9214-246e594de5d5_story.html
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« Reply #55706 on: July 17, 2019, 01:55:54 pm »
You guys are putting a glossy spin on the Dem primaries thus far. The biggest moment so far has been a fucking race row about an issue that was relevant 40 years ago.

Yeah because everyone is now under 40 and we've moved into a post-racial world.
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« Reply #55707 on: July 17, 2019, 01:56:44 pm »
Nothing to see here. Barely knew the guy...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-discussing-women-1992-party-n1030686

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The footage shows two wealthy men laughing and pointing as they appear to discuss young and beautiful women dancing at a party.

Today, one of the men is president of the United States. The other is in federal lockup awaiting a bail decision as he fights sex trafficking and conspiracy charges.

The November 1992 tape in the NBC archives shows Donald Trump partying with Jeffrey Epstein at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, now a private club, more than a decade before Epstein pleaded guilty to felony prostitution charges in Florida.

The president says he hasn’t spoken to Epstein since, and that his relationship with him was no different than that of anyone else in their elite circle. “I knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him,” Trump said last week. “I was not a fan.”

But on the tape, Trump gives Epstein plenty of personal attention.

The 1992 footage was shot by NBC for Faith Daniels’ talk show, “A Closer Look,” in a profile of the newly divorced Trump’s lifestyle. The future president was largely surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills, in town for a game against the Miami Dolphins. The women offered the camera glowing testimonials about their fun-loving host.

As music pumps in the background, the tape shows Trump walking through a corridor to greet Epstein and two other guests. “Come on in … Go inside,” Trump says.
Later in the footage, Trump is seen talking to Epstein and another man while they watch the women on the dance floor. Trump noted the presence of an NBC camera to Epstein, and both point out women, while Trump occasionally claps and dances to the beat.

Though exactly what they say is difficult to understand, Trump is seen gesturing to a woman and appears to say to Epstein, “Look at her, back there. … She’s hot.” Epstein reacted with a smile and nod.

Trump then said something else into Epstein’s ear that caused Epstein to double over with laughter.

But the president says now that he never liked Epstein.


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« Reply #55708 on: July 17, 2019, 02:15:42 pm »
Yeah, George, and he pays your wife to say he isn't.

Not a fan of George or never Trumpers really. A little late to panic after they were thrilled to have the support of racists and radical christianists now that they have taken control of what is left of his gravy train.

But in this short article he talks about his mother who came from the Philippines and how the go back to where you come from thing is familiar.
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« Reply #55709 on: July 17, 2019, 02:24:03 pm »
Nothing to see here. Barely knew the guy...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-discussing-women-1992-party-n1030686



Trump's twitter volume are indicative of his blood pressure I believe. He paid women hundreds of thousands to keep quiet about one night stands out of fear of his image with the Christianists. He's flipping out about this.
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« Reply #55710 on: July 17, 2019, 02:29:57 pm »
But in this short article he talks about his mother who came from the Philippines and how the go back to where you come from thing is familiar.
It's not new or uniquely applicable to people of different ethnic origins, though. As a lefty in the 80s I was told more than once, in normal conversation with normal people, that if I didn't like living in the UK (I've done my family tree; the vast majority of my ancestors for at least 200 years were too lazy to move further than a 25 mile radius around the border between South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire) I could always "go and live in Russia". It's a lazy and hypocritical line, unique to the right - after all, Trump's entire election campaign was dissatisfaction with what the US had become. No Democrat suggested he go back to Scotland, or some neo-fascist haven for the rich. Which would probably be Russia again, I suppose.


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« Reply #55711 on: July 17, 2019, 02:38:52 pm »
It's not new or uniquely applicable to people of different ethnic origins, though. As a lefty in the 80s I was told more than once, in normal conversation with normal people, that if I didn't like living in the UK (I've done my family tree; the vast majority of my ancestors for at least 200 years were too lazy to move further than a 25 mile radius around the border between South Yorkshire and West Yorkshire) I could always "go and live in Russia". It's a lazy and hypocritical line, unique to the right - after all, Trump's entire election campaign was dissatisfaction with what the US had become. No Democrat suggested he go back to Scotland, or some neo-fascist haven for the rich. Which would probably be Russia again, I suppose.




It is simple 'divide and conquer' of the governed like religion, guns, abortion etc while the 1% go on with business as usual. That is why it is a favourite trick of the right. To a privileged prick like Trump it is second nature.
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« Reply #55712 on: July 17, 2019, 02:58:09 pm »
Not a fan of George or never Trumpers really. A little late to panic after they were thrilled to have the support of racists and radical christianists now that they have taken control of what is left of his gravy train.

But in this short article he talks about his mother who came from the Philippines and how the go back to where you come from thing is familiar.

I read it. I'm tired of his quantum superpositioning. He has very little standing to call someone a racist when his household takes money from the guy he's calling racist in return for his wife saying he's not.

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« Reply #55713 on: July 17, 2019, 03:33:20 pm »
If all Democratic campaigns label the R's as the Racist party I can't see many of them losing.

Sitting Repugnicans can be labeled by their vote on Trunt's condemnation.
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« Reply #55714 on: July 17, 2019, 03:33:39 pm »
I read it. I'm tired of his quantum superpositioning. He has very little standing to call someone a racist when his household takes money from the guy he's calling racist in return for his wife saying he's not.

They are both capitalizing on the situation to the fullest. The fact that they are happily married and doing this is sick in it's own way

We should really completely shun the two of them

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« Reply #55715 on: July 17, 2019, 03:35:41 pm »
Yahoo! News
Trump may think being called a racist will help him win in 2020
 Jon Ward and Andrew Romano 
11 hrs ago


When Trump doubled down Monday on his line that a group of minority women in the House should leave the country if they don’t like it, he said more than once that he believes his language — which was widely condemned as racist by Democratic politicians and members of the press — will rally voters to his side.

“A lot of people love it, by the way,” Trump said of his earlier tweet. “A lot of people love it.”

Trump added that his message was simply that America is great, that the economy is doing well, and that if people don’t like it here, they can leave.

“Those Tweets were NOT Racist,” Trump tweeted Tuesday. “I don’t have a Racist bone in my body!”

Time and again, Trump has waded into racially charged controversies — over the white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va., or the NFL national anthem protests, or the influx of asylum seekers on America’s southern border — with inflammatory language that triggers accusations of racism.

But it’s starting to seem as if provoking such accusations may be the whole point. Selling America on an agenda of banning Muslims and separating immigrants from their children is hard, but convincing some smaller subset of the Republican electorate that Democrats see Trump supporters as racists? That’s much easier, especially when Trump himself is constantly goading those same Democrats into calling him a racist.

“They have a very clear strategy, Trump and his campaign,” said former Obama strategist David Axelrod on Monday’s “Hacks on Tap” podcast. “Everybody needs to keep an eye on this guy’s tactics and not get lit on fire every time he does something outrageous and morally bankrupt.”

The idea is not so much that Trump’s offensive racial remarks will inspire a critical mass of Americans to vote for him. Rather, it’s that Trump supporters will be outraged by the label “racist,” then motivated to turn out in 2020 — and vote against Democrats — because of it.

“The Democrats have to be careful about giving Trump the war he wants,” said Republican strategist Mike Murphy, Axelrod’s “Hacks on Tap” co-host. “They can have all the moral high ground, and they have it on this. But if it comes down to a big racial-identity war in America, that is fuel for Trump’s type of demagoguery.”

As if on cue, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted Monday and Tuesday showed Trump’s net approval among Republicans rising in the wake of the controversy.

Democratic responses to Trump over the past few days show his opponents understand this potential trap, even if they aren’t completely sure how to avoid it.

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., who was asked about Trump’s comments Sunday evening after a day of campaigning in New Hampshire, unequivocally called Trump’s comment “racist and un-American” but then pivoted to a more uplifting message about the need for the country to have a unifying leader.

“This guy doesn’t understand his responsibilities, and I don’t think he understands what the American people want from their president, which is somebody who is going to elevate public discourse and speak with a level of dignity with the goal of unity,” Harris said. “This president doesn’t understand that and that’s why I’m running against him, and that’s why he needs to go.”

But in the headline-driven news cycle, the main takeaway for most people was her denunciation, and her attempt at being a unifier got lost in the wash.

Similarly, the four House Democrats targeted by Trump said, to different degrees, that Trump’s attack on them was a diversion.

“We’ll stay focused on our agenda,” said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. “All of this is a distraction. ... He does not know how to defend his policies, so what he does is attack us personally.”

“This is a distraction and we should not take the bait,” said Rep. Ayanna Pressley.

Yet no one has talked of much else since Sunday morning. And the news cycle on Tuesday was consumed with news of blowback to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s comment on the House floor that Trump’s comments were “racist,” which triggered a protest from Republicans over the fact that House rules forbid referring to the president with such descriptions. The Democratic-controlled House voted to allow Pelosi’s comments to stand, prompting more outcries from Republicans.

Politico, citing anonymous sources in and around the White House, reported that Trump’s advisers viewed his original Sunday morning tweets as going too far, and that the president knew he had erred and tried to recast the comment in his back and forth with reporters at the White House Monday afternoon without backing down.

Regardless, the righteous anger of Trump’s critics may not hurt him among key voters in swing states such as Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where a disproportionate number of white working-class Trump supporters stayed home in 2018 — and may ultimately return to the ballot box if they can be persuaded that Democrats are accusing them, by proxy, of racism.

There are signs that Trump understands these dynamics. “One of them is polling at 8 percent,” the president told reporters Monday — an apparent reference to an internal Democratic poll that leaked to Axios Sunday and showed Rep. Omar with a 9 percent approval rating among white, non-college, swing-district voters.

Meanwhile, Ari Fleischer, who was a White House press secretary for President George W. Bush and who has spoken with Trump campaign advisers about their turnout projections, told the Washington Post that “Trump is proposing a giant swap.”

“Republicans can no longer count on suburban women and we will continue to lose college-educated men and women, while we increasingly pick up working white Americans without college degrees,” Fleischer explained. “Nobody knows who will come out ahead in the swap.”

And in the middle of the firestorm Trump retweeted a video from a young conservative named Brandon Straka that vilified the media for invoking “racism, homophobia, bigotry and falsely assign[ing] these emotionally charged accusations to people in situations where they do not belong.”

It’s “simply to control your thinking” and it is “criminal,” said Straka, a self-described former liberal who has launched a campaign to convince Democrats to “walk away” from the party. “It turns out they do it all the time.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell echoed this line Tuesday, telling reporters that the “political rhetoric has really gotten way, way overheated all across the political spectrum,” before directing his ire at Democrats.

“We’ve seen the far left throw accusations of racism at everyone, anyone who disagrees with them on anything — including the speaker of the House,” McConnell said, referencing the recent dispute between Nancy Pelosi and “the Squad.”

Even Tim Scott, the GOP’s only African-American U.S. senator, stopped short of calling Trump’s tweet racist. Instead, Scott said it was “racially offensive.”

One veteran Democratic strategist noted that “Trump tried this in 2018” during the midterms by describing the so-called caravan as an invasion of undocumented immigrants. “He leaned in late on the immigration stuff and the dog whistles,” the Democratic strategist said. “The candidates that managed to navigate that by not taking the bait did pretty well.”

But he also said the current flap is just a dress rehearsal for the more consequential challenges that will confront the eventual Democratic nominee.

“It’s going to matter a lot more when we get to April next year and we see how the candidate who’s running against Trump handles it,” he said.

Even so, the various Democratic hopefuls might as well start honing their counterstrategies.

“We’re going to see a steady diet of this from now until November of 2020,” Axelrod predicted. “So this is not for the squeamish. Everybody fasten their seatbelts. It’s going to be a very bumpy ride.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-may-think-being-called-a-racist-will-help-him-win-in-2020/ar-AAEquZL
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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55716 on: July 17, 2019, 03:42:02 pm »
Trump’s Tweets So Clearly Racist It’s Spelled Out In Discrimination Law

President Donald Trump’s tweet telling four Democratic congresswomen to “go back” to “the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came” was quite literally textbook racism.

Federal law as enforced by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission counts discrimination based on nation of origin as one of several kinds of prohibited discrimination.

One example the EEOC lists on its website matches nearly word-for-word the President’s tweets.

“Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person’s foreign accent or comments like, “Go back to where you came from.”

Highlighting the EEOC’s language Tuesday, Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) wrote, “The President’s bigoted words are so contrary to who we are as a country that we literally have laws against them.”

In other words, if an employer had tweeted what Trump did at his or her employees, that employer could face a lawsuit.

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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55717 on: July 17, 2019, 03:55:44 pm »
One rule for trump one rule for everyone else.

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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55718 on: July 17, 2019, 04:15:31 pm »
Yahoo! News
Trump may think being called a racist will help him win in 2020
 Jon Ward and Andrew Romano 
11 hrs ago


When Trump doubled down Monday on his line that a group of minority women in the House should leave the country if they don’t like it, he said more than once that he believes his language — which was widely condemned as racist by Democratic politicians and members of the press — will rally voters to his side.

“A lot of people love it, by the way,” Trump said of his earlier tweet. “A lot of people love it.”

Trump added that his message was simply that America is great, that the economy is doing well, and that if people don’t like it here, they can leave.

“Those Tweets were NOT Racist,” Trump tweeted Tuesday. “I don’t have a Racist bone in my body!”

Time and again, Trump has waded into racially charged controversies — over the white supremacist protests in Charlottesville, Va., or the NFL national anthem protests, or the influx of asylum seekers on America’s southern border — with inflammatory language that triggers accusations of racism.

But it’s starting to seem as if provoking such accusations may be the whole point. Selling America on an agenda of banning Muslims and separating immigrants from their children is hard, but convincing some smaller subset of the Republican electorate that Democrats see Trump supporters as racists? That’s much easier, especially when Trump himself is constantly goading those same Democrats into calling him a racist.

“They have a very clear strategy, Trump and his campaign,” said former Obama strategist David Axelrod on Monday’s “Hacks on Tap” podcast. “Everybody needs to keep an eye on this guy’s tactics and not get lit on fire every time he does something outrageous and morally bankrupt.”

The idea is not so much that Trump’s offensive racial remarks will inspire a critical mass of Americans to vote for him. Rather, it’s that Trump supporters will be outraged by the label “racist,” then motivated to turn out in 2020 — and vote against Democrats — because of it.

“The Democrats have to be careful about giving Trump the war he wants,” said Republican strategist Mike Murphy, Axelrod’s “Hacks on Tap” co-host. “They can have all the moral high ground, and they have it on this. But if it comes down to a big racial-identity war in America, that is fuel for Trump’s type of demagoguery.”

As if on cue, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted Monday and Tuesday showed Trump’s net approval among Republicans rising in the wake of the controversy.

Democratic responses to Trump over the past few days show his opponents understand this potential trap, even if they aren’t completely sure how to avoid it.

Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., who was asked about Trump’s comments Sunday evening after a day of campaigning in New Hampshire, unequivocally called Trump’s comment “racist and un-American” but then pivoted to a more uplifting message about the need for the country to have a unifying leader.

“This guy doesn’t understand his responsibilities, and I don’t think he understands what the American people want from their president, which is somebody who is going to elevate public discourse and speak with a level of dignity with the goal of unity,” Harris said. “This president doesn’t understand that and that’s why I’m running against him, and that’s why he needs to go.”

But in the headline-driven news cycle, the main takeaway for most people was her denunciation, and her attempt at being a unifier got lost in the wash.

Similarly, the four House Democrats targeted by Trump said, to different degrees, that Trump’s attack on them was a diversion.

“We’ll stay focused on our agenda,” said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. “All of this is a distraction. ... He does not know how to defend his policies, so what he does is attack us personally.”

“This is a distraction and we should not take the bait,” said Rep. Ayanna Pressley.

Yet no one has talked of much else since Sunday morning. And the news cycle on Tuesday was consumed with news of blowback to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s comment on the House floor that Trump’s comments were “racist,” which triggered a protest from Republicans over the fact that House rules forbid referring to the president with such descriptions. The Democratic-controlled House voted to allow Pelosi’s comments to stand, prompting more outcries from Republicans.

Politico, citing anonymous sources in and around the White House, reported that Trump’s advisers viewed his original Sunday morning tweets as going too far, and that the president knew he had erred and tried to recast the comment in his back and forth with reporters at the White House Monday afternoon without backing down.

Regardless, the righteous anger of Trump’s critics may not hurt him among key voters in swing states such as Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, where a disproportionate number of white working-class Trump supporters stayed home in 2018 — and may ultimately return to the ballot box if they can be persuaded that Democrats are accusing them, by proxy, of racism.

There are signs that Trump understands these dynamics. “One of them is polling at 8 percent,” the president told reporters Monday — an apparent reference to an internal Democratic poll that leaked to Axios Sunday and showed Rep. Omar with a 9 percent approval rating among white, non-college, swing-district voters.

Meanwhile, Ari Fleischer, who was a White House press secretary for President George W. Bush and who has spoken with Trump campaign advisers about their turnout projections, told the Washington Post that “Trump is proposing a giant swap.”

“Republicans can no longer count on suburban women and we will continue to lose college-educated men and women, while we increasingly pick up working white Americans without college degrees,” Fleischer explained. “Nobody knows who will come out ahead in the swap.”

And in the middle of the firestorm Trump retweeted a video from a young conservative named Brandon Straka that vilified the media for invoking “racism, homophobia, bigotry and falsely assign[ing] these emotionally charged accusations to people in situations where they do not belong.”

It’s “simply to control your thinking” and it is “criminal,” said Straka, a self-described former liberal who has launched a campaign to convince Democrats to “walk away” from the party. “It turns out they do it all the time.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell echoed this line Tuesday, telling reporters that the “political rhetoric has really gotten way, way overheated all across the political spectrum,” before directing his ire at Democrats.

“We’ve seen the far left throw accusations of racism at everyone, anyone who disagrees with them on anything — including the speaker of the House,” McConnell said, referencing the recent dispute between Nancy Pelosi and “the Squad.”

Even Tim Scott, the GOP’s only African-American U.S. senator, stopped short of calling Trump’s tweet racist. Instead, Scott said it was “racially offensive.”

One veteran Democratic strategist noted that “Trump tried this in 2018” during the midterms by describing the so-called caravan as an invasion of undocumented immigrants. “He leaned in late on the immigration stuff and the dog whistles,” the Democratic strategist said. “The candidates that managed to navigate that by not taking the bait did pretty well.”

But he also said the current flap is just a dress rehearsal for the more consequential challenges that will confront the eventual Democratic nominee.

“It’s going to matter a lot more when we get to April next year and we see how the candidate who’s running against Trump handles it,” he said.

Even so, the various Democratic hopefuls might as well start honing their counterstrategies.

“We’re going to see a steady diet of this from now until November of 2020,” Axelrod predicted. “So this is not for the squeamish. Everybody fasten their seatbelts. It’s going to be a very bumpy ride.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-may-think-being-called-a-racist-will-help-him-win-in-2020/ar-AAEquZL

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Re: Ill Douche - Fungal Dick
« Reply #55719 on: July 17, 2019, 04:43:22 pm »
If all Democratic campaigns label the R's as the Racist party I can't see many of them losing.

Sitting Repugnicans can be labeled by their vote on Trunt's condemnation.

Also, GOP senators will all get tagged as their leadership would not even put it to a vote. Who dares what statement they put out if their leadership renders them helpless snd inert.
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