Author Topic: Dan Gordon's Hillsborough Film (Read 148608 times)

tbonejones · « **Reply #40 on:** May 9, 2016, 01:01:48 pm »

Not many words in my head after watching that.

Just that there have been real heroes and angels at work over the last 27 years, countering the work of the absolute bastards that tried to stop them.

Role models in every way.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 9, 2016, 04:58:02 pm »

I've watched several other documentaries on Hillsborough before. Videos of it as it happened on Youtube, and Charles McDougall's TV film. This is the first that I've actually had to stop at certain points and take a moment. There's some truly heartbreaking scenes and recollections of events. Just seeing the agony etched on the faces of those who were there was enough to bring me to tears. It's important to remember that not only where there some right horrible c*nts involved in it all, but there were also good men; honorable, brave, and dignified men amongst them that also suffered.

It's difficult to convey in written text the emotions that you feel so soon after watching a program like this. One thing is immediately clear, though: to everyone involved in the pursuit of justice; from the families of the victims, and to people like Phil Scraton, you are in each and every way, in your own way, heroes and an inspiration to all the world over.

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #42 on:** May 9, 2016, 11:18:38 pm »

I couldn't watch the first half, it was too painful ( and feel guilty for that) but will, when I feel right, caught the last 40 mins and what hit me more than anything was the HSE saying the 7...7!! Turnstiles for 10,000 fans no matter how well run couldn't deliver the people inside until 40 mins after Kick off.

It seems jaw dropping that such a fundamental issue is made clear to us now..the more I think about it, the madness of it , how can SWFC , The FA not be culpable?

That Paul Middup is an evil , sly, obnoxious twat....and a Mason to boot I bet ( and whilst SYP will get it good and proper....the Masons have a lot to answer for in the cover up and lies circulated)

Where as Phil Scraton is a man and a real hero.

oldfordie · « **Reply #43 on:** May 9, 2016, 11:39:24 pm »

So easy to say if only this or that or whatever could go wrong went wrong that day. truth is the lot of them fu... up in every possible way because there useless incompetent ba...who had no respect for the fans safety or the regulations and emergency procedures. what sort of sick society allowed something so obviously wrong to last 27yrs.
So angry watching this again last night, all those good decent peoples lives destroyed and vilified by nothing more than scum. the Cowboy builders of the police force. SYP.
Felt sick for those decent SYP police and the survivors last night. still suffering to this day.
I hope the CPS do the right thing and save the families more heartache fighting a battle they should be doing for them. let them recover in peace, it's been a long draining 27 yrs.

terrible suits · « **Reply #44 on:** May 10, 2016, 03:43:44 am »

I don't know whether this will help for anyone (I hadn't received any notes of anyone having issues with the plain .mp4 file), but just in case, I made a plain .html webpage with the video embedded. Nothing fancy, but just in case someone needed a webpage to display the video in, as opposed to launching the video directly. Let me know if there are any issues or problems.

http://www.terrisus.com/misc/Hillsborough.html

bordeauxred · « **Reply #45 on:** May 10, 2016, 10:07:53 pm »

Very informative documentary. So much respect for Prof Scraton. Absolute hero.

John C · « **Reply #46 on:** May 11, 2016, 02:13:47 pm »

Quote from: FlashingBlade on May 9, 2016, 11:18:38 pm

I couldn't watch the first half, it was too painful ( and feel guilty for that) but will, when I feel right, caught the last 40 mins and what hit me more than anything was the HSE saying the 7...7!! Turnstiles for 10,000 fans no matter how well run couldn't deliver the people inside until 40 mins after Kick off.

It's an extremely important bit of footage mate, it completely dispels many myths hence we've cut it from the main film in to its own 2 min edit for quick sharing.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/sXi0DClt5JQ&showsearch=0&rel=0&fs=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/sXi0DClt5JQ&showsearch=0&rel=0&fs=1</a>

Alf Garnett! · « **Reply #47 on:** May 11, 2016, 02:47:47 pm »

Quote from: John C on May 11, 2016, 02:13:47 pm

It's an extremely important bit of footage mate, it completely dispels many myths hence we've cut it from the main film in to its own 2 min edit for quick sharing.

Yes & was pointed out the amount of fans who went through the turnstiles & the gate equated to the capacity of that end-which pissed on the ticketless fans lie.

cowtownred · « **Reply #48 on:** May 11, 2016, 07:43:15 pm »

Just watching again. Its worse every time.

Prof.. ''the myth begins with the lie'' oh fuck that has me every single time.

martinf · « **Reply #49 on:** May 12, 2016, 11:04:16 pm »

Had it recorded and watched it tonight when I had time to take it all in. Thank you Mr. Scraton, and thank you to the families for their ceaseless fight. Tears just flowed watching it.

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #50 on:** May 13, 2016, 12:26:09 pm »

This article in the Guardian is not about the film itself, but it nevertheless features quite heavily the director Dan Gordon.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/13/sheffield-wednesday-hillsborough-brighton-championship-playoffs

RogerTheRed · « **Reply #51 on:** May 14, 2016, 09:01:38 pm »

Is Paul Middup of the police federation still alive? I hope they get his head on a stick!

Bluelagos · « **Reply #52 on:** June 1, 2016, 11:30:37 am »

Quote from: RogerTheRed on May 14, 2016, 09:01:38 pm

Is Paul Middup of the police federation still alive? I hope they get his head on a stick!

He was alive and well enough to repeat some of his filth at the inquests. Am sure he will get what is coming

InRed · « **Reply #53 on:** June 1, 2016, 09:54:24 pm »

Just re-watched this. Andy Burnham's nod is such a bittersweet moment.

24/7 · « **Reply #54 on:** June 1, 2016, 10:05:01 pm »

Quote from: Bluelagos on June 1, 2016, 11:30:37 am

He was alive and well enough to repeat some of his filth at the inquests. Am sure he will get what is coming

He did seem to suffer from memory loss though - apparently, during the most significant moments of his entire career, he forgets being at a key Press Conference and at a critical meeting. Bless. I did enjoy seeing him summarily dismissed from the witness stand after having plaintively cried foul at the questioning style to which he was subjected (which was a great moment!). Bless his cottons.

DredzofOz · « **Reply #55 on:** September 3, 2016, 11:12:42 am »

Brilliant doco, was shown here in Australia not too long ago. So hard to watch though. Gut wrenching stuff.

stuartheal · « **Reply #56 on:** September 16, 2016, 04:35:23 pm »

Kept this on Sky Plus from BBC2 showing. Watched it again this afternoon. The 96 will never be forgotten.

Still find it truly shocking how the police and a certain newspaper acted. I sincerely hope that those responsible are held criminally accountable.

An excellent yet harrowing documentary. Every single football fan shoild watch this. Puts it all into perspective.

kavah · « **Reply #57 on:** May 14, 2017, 11:31:17 pm »

Quote from: oojason on May 14, 2017, 10:56:21 pm

Earlier tonight Dan Gordon's excellent Hillsborough documentary won a BAFTA tv award (for Best Single Documentary)

a clip of the him accepting the award, along with Phil Scraton and some of the other top people who worked on it, his speech, and a post-award interview:-

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA7CxAhESQ0

The documentary itself can be be seen at (contains additional and updated footage from the Inquests):-

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yIAGkOpzSk

Alan_X · « **Reply #58 on:** May 14, 2017, 11:39:43 pm »

Bumped. Well deserved recognition.

Beginge · « **Reply #59 on:** August 1, 2017, 03:07:01 pm »

thanks for the movie i'm definitely going to watch it. and thank you guys for your opinions as they were they ones making me watch it. would you mind if i am going to ask some questions after watching it? thanks

P_thy · « **Reply #60 on:** August 30, 2017, 07:59:24 pm »

Thanks for the heads up - will definitely keep an eye out for it

PhilScraton · « **Reply #61 on:** October 9, 2017, 08:41:36 pm »

Belfast International Arts Festival

HILLSBOROUGH

96 men, women and children died as a consequence of a foreseeable fatal crush on the terraces of the Hillsborough football stadium on 15 April 1989. What followed was one of the longest and most painful fights for justice in British legal history. Daniel Gordon’s BAFTA-winning film meticulously and powerfully presents the true story of how families and campaigners fought for the final vindication of those who had suffered on that day.

Followed by a Q&A with Queen’s University Professor Phil Scraton, factual consultant for the film and primary author of the Hillsborough Independent Panel’s ground-breaking 2012 Report.

DIR: DANIEL GORDON • UK • 2016 • 2 HRS 1 MINS

DATE
Thursday, 19 October 2017
TIME
6:00pm
DURATION
2 hours 1 min
VENUE
Queen’s Film Theatre
TICKET PRICES
£6.70 / £5

kesey · « **Reply #62 on:** April 17, 2018, 01:06:31 am »

I've just watched that again.

For the 96 .

Keita Success · « **Reply #63 on:** December 12, 2018, 10:47:33 pm »

Missus is coming round on Saturday and I'm showing her this. She doesn't 'get' football or why I'm so obsessed with our club. Hopefully a deeper understanding will make her understand that we're more than just a club. We're Liverpool.

mikeb58 · « **Reply #64 on:** January 5, 2019, 08:06:37 am »

Quote from: kesey on April 17, 2018, 01:06:31 am

I've just watched that again.

For the 96 .

SvenJohansen · « **Reply #65 on:** January 7, 2022, 09:55:07 pm »

I've spent a lot of time since I joined RAWK a couple of months ago in the Hillsborough Memorial Board. I found the Dan Gordon film and I watched it a couple of nights ago as I hadn't seen it before. I wonder, especially now in the aftermath of the tv show ANNE , and now the #Hillsborough Law Now, if it would be a good idea to bump the thread about the film?

I know most on here have probably seen it but some of the younger/newer fans of Liverpool FC, new members of RAWK and indeed viewers of ANNE might not have. I don't want to be seen as insensitive given that Anne was a hard watch, and this film will be just as difficult. I felt it was a necessary watch, for me anyway.