Author Topic: FM10 SPL World Domination Simulation Draft - Discussion thread! (Read 21851 times)

Linudden · « **Reply #280 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:29:46 pm »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on December 2, 2019, 08:27:55 pm

A creative duo of Diego and Nasri are added to the Green and White revolution. A bit of arrogance and a bit of samba added to the tiki taka and the German steel. Teams really taking shape.

You going with Pep's 2-7-1 formation?

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #281 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:31:42 pm »

Etoo was still at the peak of his powers and can help carry my team while Hazard and Neymar are developing.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #282 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:36:47 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on December 2, 2019, 08:29:46 pm

You going with Pep's 2-7-1 formation?

Yeah. Attack attack attack.

Defending is for squares.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #283 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:49:37 pm »

x

Ivanovic Hummels x x

Pirlo

Modric Xavi

x x

Tevez

stoa · « **Reply #284 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:51:22 pm »

I was wondering who'll be the first one to pick a player who's already gone and I hoped it wouldn't be me. Thank god for santa Claus...

Linudden · « **Reply #285 on:** December 2, 2019, 08:54:25 pm »

Quote from: stoa on December 2, 2019, 08:51:22 pm

I was wondering who'll be the first one to pick a player who's already gone and I hoped it wouldn't be me. Thank god for santa Claus...

He should be lucky the penalty isn't a forced pick of Paul Konchesky, but just a re-do

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #286 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:14:02 pm »

Sneijder is a cracker. I considered him, he just doesn’t suit my formation.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #287 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:20:29 pm »

There's another player in the same mold that I'm surprised hasn't been picked

Max_powers · « **Reply #288 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:43:29 pm »

Is it my turn again? Didn't get a PM

KillieRed · « **Reply #289 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:46:58 pm »

Quote from: Max_powers on December 2, 2019, 09:43:29 pm

Is it my turn again? Didn't get a PM

Sorry Max, yes.

Max_powers · « **Reply #290 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:50:51 pm »

Quote from: KillieRed on December 2, 2019, 09:46:58 pm

Sorry Max, yes.

No worries man. Its all good

Max_powers · « **Reply #291 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:56:23 pm »

I never played 2010 version much, but in 2012 version Hulk was as good as Messi and Ronaldo. His stats still look decent in this version.

A lot of pace and power up front with Torres and him.

Linudden · « **Reply #292 on:** December 2, 2019, 09:57:13 pm »

Quote from: Max_powers on December 2, 2019, 09:56:23 pm

I never played 2010 version much, but in 2012 version Hulk was as good as Messi and Ronaldo. His stats still look decent in this version.

A lot of pace and power up front with Torres and him.

Playing with him as an inside forward in FM10, he's brutal. I was worried about him not fitting in with Agüero and Pato though and being forced to act a winger from the left which would be bothersome. If I coached the team myself, he'd be a shoe-in from the right.

Max_powers · « **Reply #293 on:** December 2, 2019, 10:00:39 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on December 2, 2019, 09:57:13 pm

Playing with him as an inside forward in FM10, he's brutal. I was worried about him not fitting in with Agüero and Pato though and being forced to act a winger from the left which would be bothersome. If I coached the team myself, he'd be a shoe-in from the right.

He is listed as a center forward in-game. He is pretty similar to Torres in style but his long-shots are amazing so he does bring other skills. I also have two very creative midfielders that like to thread through balls, having that raw pace upfront was a must.

Linudden · « **Reply #294 on:** December 2, 2019, 10:02:43 pm »

Quote from: Max_powers on December 2, 2019, 10:00:39 pm

He is listed as a center forward in-game. He is pretty similar to Torres in style but his long-shots are amazing so he does bring other skills. I also have two very creative midfielders that like to thread through balls, having that raw pace upfront was a must.

Indeed, it takes a lot of retraining to get him to play as a RW inside, but as a CF inside he also works wonders. The real devastation was when I had him in my three in the 4-2-3-1 in Napoli though. He scored fewer goals than in the front two, but he had playtime. Ronaldo-esque. He doesn't start the game at that level though so it takes good coaching, let's see if Motherwell have that

Trendisnotdestiny · « **Reply #295 on:** December 2, 2019, 11:05:43 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on December 2, 2019, 08:17:51 pm

Trend will lose his shit if I tell you the truth about Bonucci and Godín on FM10 I'm afraid

The whole point is that Trend went a year too early on the pair of them! Godín can't head the ball for shit and Bonucci is an average Bari young first-teamer with development potential. I had him at Bari for a season and he was alright but definitely someone I didn't feel could carry that side, plain average. Well, well. Love hurts. At least he has Ramos.

Yes... I lose my shit.

Here is why: Linudden, you

1. asked us to research players for the 09-10 season and then 6 or 7 sim years after this
2. reminded us to be smart and not go for the young ones that will never develop or the olds who retire (ahem Puyol)
3. knew many of the drafters here are football fans not specific gaming fans --- but it seems insider knowledge is premium
4. put in some important "field leveling" factors like draft order and 12th person accommodations
5. but the hidden knowledge or index of player rankings for this year, how much players improve over sim and
6. a whole host of questions goes unanswered then it leaks out into the forum by accident

Yeah I'm pissed... I want to change my Bonucci and Godin picks --- and would not have picked Ramos so high nor Vidal -- but you see I am a football coach -- and I try to gain advantage in areas others choose to avoid; so I go out and find the best possible player over the entire period which I point to my team and feel relatively good.

Yeah I'm pissed because this wastes my time if I do not have the resources or parameters for improvement -- and I do not enjoy playing the "guess-what-I-am-thinking-game" when it comes to world footy.

All that aside, I think you run a pretty fun draft -- and I like you and each drafter here -- very cool.

It would have been nice to have a draft resource, website or a big list of players to avoid -- so as not to waste our time on drafting bloopers 101 gotcha games.

Done whinging now. Gone kick somebodies ass and get sent off now.

Linudden · « **Reply #296 on:** December 3, 2019, 12:37:36 am »

If others agree there might be mercy on Bonucci. I don't want people to draft someone by mistake if he broke through 0.5 years later etc. I'd be cool with that, so long as it's the very last pick after the wildcard round.

Godín and Vidal are way better than their peers in Hearts at the moment and are good players for a side top eight in the EPL. Those two are not the end of the world. It was just some banter, mate.

Júlio César and Ramos were top three in their respective positions in the world and Silva was an extremely technical playmaker to build the offensive play around. There's no doubt you should be proud of having them.

As for me, I didn't disclose any information about any player before a draft pick was made. I've also only picked famous players at the time, so it's not like I've done dirty there either. No-one can say Agüero, Pato, Chiellini, Kaká, Diarra, Maicon or Zárate were unknown quantities around back then. Even by the money of that time, their combined value would be close to £260 million.

We've all done picks and I think it's worked well when both the first and last draft picks have managed amazing teams.

I doubt anyone other than you will regret picks but if it's up to just me, you could de-select Bonucci once the draft is almost done

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #297 on:** December 3, 2019, 12:43:55 am »

x

Ivanovic Hummels Subotic x

Pirlo

Modric Xavi

x x

Tevez

Linudden · « **Reply #298 on:** December 3, 2019, 12:47:30 am »

Quote from: deFacto on December 3, 2019, 12:43:55 am

x

Ivanovic Hummels Subotic x

Pirlo

Modric Xavi

x x

Tevez

The Bermuda Triangle in real life

Mowbray was already a pain in the ass to play against with his standard midfield. He did play it quite centrally with three attacking mids however, so make sure your wingers are versatile enough so that they can pass (in effect not be like Lennon or Walcott)! Modric back then was also capable of playing out wide if needed, for your information. I'd recommend at least one versatile player who could partner Tévez if Mowbray would get the boot also.

I'm very strict on not mentioning names though but that's just fair-game info. Anyone can PM and ask me stuff. I'm open for business

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #299 on:** December 3, 2019, 12:51:29 am »

Quote from: Linudden on December 3, 2019, 12:47:30 am

The Bermuda Triangle in real life Mowbray was already a pain in the ass to play against with his standard midfield. He did play it quite centrally with three attacking mids however, so make sure your wingers are versatile enough so that they can pass (in effect not be like Lennon or Walcott)! Modric back then was also capable of playing out wide if needed, for your information. I'd recommend at least one versatile player who could partner Tevez is Mowbray would get the boot also.

I'm very strict on not mentioning names though but that's just fair-game info.

Imagine playin Rondo with those 3

Cheers, I forgot about his versatility back then.

Linudden · « **Reply #300 on:** December 3, 2019, 12:52:43 am »

Quote from: deFacto on December 3, 2019, 12:51:29 am

Imagine playin Rondo with those 3

Cheers, I forgot about his versatility back then.

Imagine a Modric with speedy legs but just as fast a brain? No wonder Spuds beat us

Either way, KillieRed has sent me his whole drafting short list in a PM so even if he's in some underground bunker in Ayrshire with the dwelling's internet status stuck in 1983, at least his picks will be good for tomorrow.

Trendisnotdestiny · « **Reply #301 on:** December 3, 2019, 01:31:21 am »

Quote from: Linudden on December 3, 2019, 12:37:36 am

If others agree there might be mercy on Bonucci. I don't want people to draft someone by mistake if he broke through 0.5 years later etc. I'd be cool with that, so long as it's the very last pick after the wildcard round.

Godín and Vidal are way better than their peers in Hearts at the moment and are good players for a side top eight in the EPL. Those two are not the end of the world. It was just some banter, mate.

Júlio César and Ramos were top three in their respective positions in the world and Silva was an extremely technical playmaker to build the offensive play around. There's no doubt you should be proud of having them.

As for me, I didn't disclose any information about any player before a draft pick was made. I've also only picked famous players at the time, so it's not like I've done dirty there either. No-one can say Agüero, Pato, Chiellini, Kaká, Diarra, Maicon or Zárate were unknown quantities around back then. Even by the money of that time, their combined value would be close to £260 million.

We've all done picks and I think it's worked well when both the first and last draft picks have managed amazing teams.

I doubt anyone other than you will regret picks but if it's up to just me, you could de-select Bonucci once the draft is almost done

Fair enough. Appreciate the thoughtful response - quite considerate.

And for the record, in no way am I saying you are advantaging yourself in this. No chance.

And as far as Bonucci, I changed my mind several times and found a few resources that might help me out of this mess --- so I'll take you up on the offer to exchange him at the end of the draft. Would probably like to do the same with Vidal now that I know what I am dealing with --- but will not be hard done by if that is unable to occur.

Cheers

JSteve · « **Reply #302 on:** December 3, 2019, 07:05:05 am »

|-|

Sagna Pepe Vidic |-|

|-| Gerrard |-| Di Maria

Higuain Villa

KillieRed · « **Reply #303 on:** December 3, 2019, 08:15:02 am »

Neuer

Richards || Kompany Marcelo

|| Fernandinho Toure ||

Suarez Alexis

XabiArt · « **Reply #304 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:30:23 am »

X

X Otamendi X Ansaldi

Moutinho Sissoko
Ronaldo Mata

Dzeko Balotelli

XabiArt · « **Reply #305 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:30:52 am »

Better on FM than real life.

I hope anyway

XabiArt · « **Reply #306 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:31:34 am »

Are we picking 12+ players now then? We're absolutely flying through this so i dont see why not.

Elzar · « **Reply #307 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:42:59 am »

Are you going to draft managers?

Picking Bale is interesting. He plays anywhere up the left on this one, but mainly a left back.

Linudden · « **Reply #308 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:48:52 am »

Quote from: XabiArt on December 3, 2019, 10:31:34 am

Are we picking 12+ players now then? We're absolutely flying through this so i dont see why not.

12 yes.

How many do you think there should be? A whole bench? Since there are three subs, I'm open to go to 14 if people want to but more than that kind of takes the charm away

Linudden · « **Reply #309 on:** December 3, 2019, 10:50:16 am »

Quote from: Elzar on December 3, 2019, 10:42:59 am

Are you going to draft managers?

Picking Bale is interesting. He plays anywhere up the left on this one, but mainly a left back.

We've picked to the existing formations used in the game at the time, so those managers will stay on. That's another variable that makes it essential the smaller clubs go first: the latter simply have managers with higher ratings so the smaller clubs need all the help they can get. The level playing field will only be there after an XI has been picked.