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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42080 on: June 19, 2018, 08:32:01 pm »
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US 'to quit UN human rights council'

The US is set to pull out of the United Nations Human Rights Council, unnamed UN officials say.

The US UN envoy Nikki Haley and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are set make the announcement later on Tuesday.

Ms Haley last year accused the council of "chronic anti-Israel bias" and said the US was reviewing its membership.

Formed in 2006, the council has been criticised for allowing countries with questionable human rights records to be members.

UN officials have not commented on the expected US announcement. "We will wait to hear the details of that decision before commenting further," said UN spokesman Stephane Dujarric.

The reported move comes amid intense criticism over the Trump administration's policy of separating child migrants from their parents at the US-Mexico border.

UN human rights chief Zeid Ra'ad called the policy "unconscionable".

Meanwhile the campaign group Human Rights Watch criticised President Trump's human rights policy as "one-dimensional".

"The UN Human Rights Council has played an important role in such countries as North Korea, Syria, Myanmar and South Sudan, but all Trump seems to care about is defending Israel," said HRW executive director Kenneth Roth.

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What is the UN Human Rights Council?
Created in 2006 to replace the UN's Human Rights Commission, which was widely discredited for electing member states with questionable track records on human rights
All of the 47 members are elected for three-year terms
The council aims to shine a spotlight on rights abuses by adopting resolutions but has faced similar criticism to the commission
In 2013, human rights groups complained when China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Algeria and Vietnam were elected to the body
The US only joined in 2009 under President Barack Obama. It is midway through its current term

In her first address to the council a year ago, Ms Haley said it was "hard to accept" that resolutions had been passed against Israel yet none had been considered for Venezuela, which at the time saw dozens of protesters killed during political turmoil.

"It is essential that this council address its chronic anti-Israel bias if it is to have any credibility," she said.

Israel is the only country that is subject to a permanent standing agenda item, meaning its treatment of the Palestinians is regularly scrutinised.

Leaving the council would would be the latest rejection by the US of multilateral efforts, including the Paris climate agreement and the Iran nuclear deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/44537372

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42081 on: June 19, 2018, 08:37:52 pm »
Sessions:- This isn't exactly the same as one of the worst things that happened in the history of our species.

"Fundamentally, we are enforcing the law"

Weren't the nazi's enforcing the law at the time also?


And ‘work makes free’, sounds a rather noble sentiment in another context than above the gates of a concentration camp.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42082 on: June 19, 2018, 08:42:22 pm »
Looks like he going up the trade war with China, they are saying he wants a list of goods he can put a 10% tariff on to cost China $200b.

China have said they will do the same to the USA.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42083 on: June 19, 2018, 08:46:34 pm »

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Ms Haley said it was "hard to accept" that resolutions had been passed against Israel yet none had been considered for Venezuela,
Some classic whataboutism there.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42084 on: June 19, 2018, 08:48:16 pm »
Looks like he going up the trade war with China, they are saying he wants a list of goods he can put a 10% tariff on to cost China $200b.

China have said they will do the same to the USA.


He is playing a dangerous game.


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Article is talking about the Canadians but there's nothing stopping the Chinese from doing the same.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42085 on: June 19, 2018, 08:50:06 pm »


And ‘work makes free’, sounds a rather noble sentiment in another context than above the gates of a concentration camp.
The way he handled questions on Japanese internment camps was a warning sign for this. It was pointed out at the time too so people cannot claim there was no warning for these.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42086 on: June 19, 2018, 08:51:24 pm »
Doesn’t China hold most of the US debt?

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42087 on: June 19, 2018, 08:52:57 pm »
Doesn’t China hold most of the US debt?


Nothing they can do about those bonds though,suppose they could sell them but what would be the point of that.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42088 on: June 19, 2018, 08:53:12 pm »
Doesn’t China hold most of the US debt?

Thats the nuclear option, quite literally.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42089 on: June 19, 2018, 09:13:37 pm »
Just been watching a vid in the Trump video thread.

One particular segment from Morning Joe.



He really is the spouter of newspeak.

Every word that comes from him is a twisting of the truth, a deflection, or an out and out lie.

Absolutely nothing he says (outside of his cult) has any credibility, for anyone with half a brain.


It's actually quite disturbing, and frightening.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42090 on: June 19, 2018, 09:17:38 pm »
Just been watching a vid in the Trump video thread.

One particular segment from Morning Joe.



He really is the spouter of newspeak.

Every word that comes from him is a twisting of the truth, a deflection, or an out and out lie.

Absolutely nothing he says (outside of his cult) has any credibility, for anyone with half a brain.


It's actually quite disturbing, and frightening.

He is a real estate salesman, that’s a double negative as far as BS artist goes.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42091 on: June 19, 2018, 09:29:27 pm »
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US President Donald Trump has defended his policy of splitting up families entering the US illegally, defying a growing chorus of condemnation.

Speaking at a business convention, Mr Trump said children had to be taken away if their parents were jailed for illegally crossing the US border.

The president had earlier sparked outrage for tweeting that undocumented immigrants would "infest" the US.

Mexico's foreign minister has called the US policy "cruel and inhuman".

Mr Trump is meeting Republican lawmakers later to discuss a bill that proposes to curb the policy.

"I don't want children taken away from parents," Mr Trump said. "When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally - which should happen - you have to take the children away."

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Meanwhile, Mr Trump faced criticism for his choice of language on Tuesday after tweeting that immigrants threatened "to pour into and infest our Country".

What are migrants' countries of origin saying?

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Videgaray Caso said on Tuesday that the separation of children from parents at the US border was "cruel and inhuman", and clearly violated human rights.

The Salvadoran foreign ministry issued a statement on Monday saying the US policy was "exposing children to extremely adverse conditions".

Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez said: "Our position is that families should not be separated."

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A lawyer defending the detained immigrants tells the Boston Globe that several of her clients had been told by Border Patrol agents that their children were being taken to be bathed - a tactic that has drawn further comparisons to the Holocaust.

As the hours passed the mothers began to realise their children were not going to be immediately returned, according to lawyer Azalea Aleman-Bendiks.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42092 on: June 19, 2018, 09:36:59 pm »
Pretty much exactly this.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42093 on: June 19, 2018, 09:40:35 pm »
In her first address to the council a year ago, Ms Haley said it was "hard to accept" that resolutions had been passed against Israel yet none had been considered for Venezuela, which at the time saw dozens of protesters killed during political turmoil.

"It is essential that this council address its chronic anti-Israel bias if it is to have any credibility," she said.

Israel is the only country that is subject to a permanent standing agenda item, meaning its treatment of the Palestinians is regularly scrutinised.

Leaving the council would would be the latest rejection by the US of multilateral efforts, including the Paris climate agreement and the Iran nuclear deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/44537372


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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42094 on: June 19, 2018, 10:23:13 pm »
This is not funny anymore.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42095 on: June 19, 2018, 10:27:25 pm »
There is nothing to understand or sympathise with if its reasons like abortion though. You cannot reason with people like that.

The argument that abortion is wrong is simple to understand and so should be easy to argue against.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42096 on: June 19, 2018, 10:47:12 pm »
This is not funny anymore.

Definitely. He has done and said some stupid things but the decision with migrants is without doubt the worst.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42097 on: June 19, 2018, 10:47:59 pm »
Hopefully this leads to renewed pressure on Theresa May to cancel his UK visit.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42098 on: June 19, 2018, 10:48:38 pm »
The argument that abortion is wrong is simple to understand and so should be easy to argue against.

Its easy to argue against but a bit harder to make someone change their mind.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42099 on: June 19, 2018, 10:50:15 pm »

I almost started arguing with him, but it would have turned into WW3 and wrecked our working relationship.

Part of the problem imo.  Don't need to challenge or argue with them, but you do need to call them out on it. 
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42100 on: June 19, 2018, 11:03:19 pm »
This is not funny anymore.

When was it funny?

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42101 on: June 19, 2018, 11:23:13 pm »

Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Bill Nelson were denied access to the Homestead Temporary Shelter For Unaccompanied Children when they went to visit today.

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42102 on: June 20, 2018, 12:00:09 am »
Debbie can fuck off.

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« Reply #42103 on: June 20, 2018, 01:27:55 am »
In truth, this is the sort of thing I imagine (and hope) would turn them off Trump, her mum definitely, knowing her. And, as I said, it wasn't Trump they are in favour of, they are fully cognizant of the fact he's a shitty human being and were never remotely part of the MAGA crowd, it was the fact he said he'd let individual states determine their own abortion laws that swung it, apparently.


But you can verify their position now - you don't have to imagine and hope. If they are standing besides Trump on the migrant children issue then they are morally reprehensible.

I do not believe that the office of the presidency has any influence over states rights. With abortion, the one thing that Trump did was to pull federal funding from foreign aid programs if they even discussed abortion.

People who support Trump will find any excuse to cover up their moral delinquency even if the excuse is not rooted in reality.

I can't reconcile supporting a man who has forced his mistresses to get abortions if abortion is your do or die issue.
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« Reply #42104 on: June 20, 2018, 01:28:29 am »
This is not funny anymore.

It never was. America elected this guy knowing who he was.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42105 on: June 20, 2018, 01:30:31 am »
Definitely. He has done and said some stupid things but the decision with migrants is without doubt the worst.

What do you mean? He already wants to kick out productive people born in America. He did that and blamed Democrats. This is not new. It just is more televisable. No less cruel and mean.
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« Reply #42106 on: June 20, 2018, 06:22:52 am »
I'd say we should maybe reach out because, currently, it's the right that is in power on both sides of the Atlantic, and it's worth doing whatever we can to ensure they get voted out at the earliest opportunity. Or we could just snipe mindless vitriol in their general direction. I do that myself most days if I'm honest and yeah, it's weirdly satisfying and cathartic, but sometimes I stop and think "what the fuck am I actually achieving here?" although it normally doesn't last long and then I go right back to laughing at/being appalled by the wannabe fascists whining about the MSM and how we need to Free Tommy. It's not very productive though.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42107 on: June 20, 2018, 08:25:42 am »
Hopefully this leads to renewed pressure on Theresa May to cancel his UK visit.

She needs him. She and her cabinet started down the road to isolate itself from the Europe and now she needs a Big Brother to cozy up to for trade and protection. There`s a new Axis forming and our government has chosen which side it wants to be on.
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« Reply #42108 on: June 20, 2018, 09:34:21 am »

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« Reply #42109 on: June 20, 2018, 09:43:03 am »
I watched the first five minutes of this.  It was too scary to watch anymore.

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"Casa Padre".  Lovely name for a detention centre.

Journalists are refused entry.  Where Journalists are allowed in, photographs are not allowed; only government issued images.  Journalists are not allowed to talk to the children.

Nobody seems to know where many of the girls and babies are.

Donald Trump is using babies as leverage for his God Damned Wall.

Just call him The Monster in the White House and be done with it.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42110 on: June 20, 2018, 09:47:00 am »
They get worse with each passing day.....

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42111 on: June 20, 2018, 09:58:09 am »
This is not funny anymore.

I agree - it's utterly disgusting. Watching Kristen Nielsen defending the separation policy is making me feel physically sick. They are all fucking liars and all as bad as Trump.

Utter scum the lot of them.

And going back to the argument about not all Trump voters being 'deplorable'... Fuck that. You voted for this shite you take full responsibility. Trump, Bannon, Miller, Sessions, Kelly, Huckabee-Sanders and the fucking rest of them.

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« Reply #42112 on: June 20, 2018, 10:02:33 am »
Oh and Nielsen - if it's essential that the law is enforced:

Trump administration tells court it won't defend key provisions of the Affordable Care Act

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42113 on: June 20, 2018, 10:10:00 am »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump can not and is not going to initiate any kind of nationwide anti abortion legislation? 

So really if people are voting for him based solely on him being supposedly anti abortion (yeah, right) then they're pretty much pissing in the wind because voting for Trump wont change anything?

To the people it matters to, abortion might be a dumpster truck worth of shit.  But with Trump you're facing that off against a mountain of shit.  People who vote for Trump are complicit in traumatising the lives of thousands of people.

There are people on these very boards who have gone through trauma and abuse.  Look at those kids.  You think something like this isn't going to leave its mark on those children?  They'll carry this forever.  As will the parents.

What happens when somebody dies in custody?  It will happen eventually.  For that matter, how many of those kids have had vaccines?  What if measles gets loose in there?  What kind of medical facilities do these camps have?

EDIT: I meant people ARE complicit.  Accidentally typed "not complicit".  Have amended my post.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42114 on: June 20, 2018, 10:44:15 am »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Trump can not and is not going to initiate any kind of nationwide anti abortion legislation? 

So really if people are voting for him based solely on him being supposedly anti abortion (yeah, right) then they're pretty much pissing in the wind because voting for Trump wont change anything?

To the people it matters to, abortion might be a dumpster truck worth of shit.  But with Trump you're facing that off against a mountain of shit.  People who vote for Trump are not complicit in traumatising the lives of thousands of people.

There are people on these very boards who have gone through trauma and abuse.  Look at those kids.  You think something like this isn't going to leave its mark on those children?  They'll carry this forever.  As will the parents.

What happens when somebody dies in custody?  It will happen eventually.  For that matter, how many of those kids have had vaccines?  What if measles gets loose in there?  What kind of medical facilities do these camps have?

Voting for Trump is changing things on abortion already - not with immediate effect but in the long term. Conservative appointments to the Supreme Court and other lower courts will ultimately overturn Roe v Wade. Trump's administration has already shown that they will simply stop enforcing pro-choice legislation and will de-fund programmes that they object to.

Of course Trump isn't really anti-abortion but being pro-life has never stopped pro-lifers paying for abortions when it suits them, the same as pro-family champions will happily have affairs, and the most vehement opponents of gay rights are so often caught out having homosexual relationships. 'Christian values' tend to correlate closely with hypocrisy. 
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42115 on: June 20, 2018, 11:30:30 am »

In a perfect world, the Ex-Presidents should turn up at that facility as a group and unannounced and insist on immediate entry and inspection and then make a joint statement that this is not the American way, it's not American values, and this stinking rotten and frankly evil Administration should immediately rescind these measures.
I don't do polite so fuck yoursalf with your stupid accusations...

Right you fuckwit I will show you why you are talking out of your fat arse...

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42116 on: June 20, 2018, 11:31:29 am »
Aye, that’s the great thing about following the bible. It’s full of so many contradictions, and open to so many interpretations (literal, allegorical, etc), you can use it to ‘justify’ whatever shitty thing you wish to do.
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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42117 on: June 20, 2018, 11:32:48 am »
Are people here aware UK home office has been separating children from parents for years?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/aug/18/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34191606

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/27/children-parents-asylum-seekers-cedars-centre-barnardos

*this is not saying I agree with the policy

I actually agree with Arny on this 100%

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42118 on: June 20, 2018, 11:40:28 am »
Are people here aware UK home office has been separating children from parents for years?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/aug/18/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34191606

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/apr/27/children-parents-asylum-seekers-cedars-centre-barnardos

*this is not saying I agree with the policy

I actually agree with Arny on this 100%



The first link talks of two isolated incidents where the parents were reunited with their kids.

The second one bears no relation as it’s about legal immigration based on income rules, where one parent comes over leaving their spouse and children behind as they are not earning the threshold.

The third link talks about parents being kept from their children for 72 hours before their flights. Barnardos even explain that there are legitimate reasons, such as a parent being a danger to their kid.

Every case, kids are reunited after a short time and often for legitimate reasons or an isolated case of incompetence.

What’s happening in the US is a planned policy where thousands of children are being taken, and with the former head of ICE saying that a large number of those will never be reunited with their parents.   

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Re: Fat Orange Nixon
« Reply #42119 on: June 20, 2018, 11:42:35 am »
The first link talks of two isolated incidents where the parents were reunited with their kids.

The second one bears no relation as it’s about legal immigration based on income rules, where one parent comes over leaving their spouse and children behind as they are not earning the threshold.

The third link talks about parents being kept from their children for 72 hours before their flights. Barnardos even explain that there are legitimate reasons, such as a parent being a danger to their kid.

Every case, kids are reunited after a short time and often for legitimate reasons or an isolated case of incompetence.

What’s happening in the US is a planned policy where thousands of children are being taken, and with the former head of ICE saying that a large number of those will never be reunited with their parents.
Taking a child away for one second is wrong enough, the idea that this is somehow a new invention though is strange
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