Author Topic: Yugoslavian Football Appreciation Thread (Read 11300 times)

reddebs · « **Reply #80 on:** June 5, 2021, 04:16:08 pm »

Quote from: Sangria on June 5, 2021, 04:10:37 pm

More visible shirts in case there is heavy fog again.

So it was fog and not smoke bombs then 😂

reddebs · « **Reply #81 on:** June 5, 2021, 04:18:23 pm »

Quote from: Samie on June 5, 2021, 04:09:35 pm

I would say playing Red Star and Ajax in that early 70's period changed our "philosophy" to how we go about doing things in Europe.

I do remember us being far more cagey than in the league but I thought it was just nerves as it was such a big thing for English teams then.

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #82 on:** June 5, 2021, 04:31:11 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on June 5, 2021, 03:57:47 pm

After playing Red Star, the coaching staff had a complete rethink of how to play in Europe. LFC did a video about the matches against Red Star a few years ago as they are considered philosophically/tactically to be among the most influential in the club's history.

That Red Star team from the early 70's was great, but interesting enough, they were not the most dominant Yugoslav team of that time. It was Hajduk Split, managed by Tomislav Ivić, with players like Katalinić, Buljan, Holcer, Peruzović, Jerković, Mužinić, Oblak, Šurjak and Žungul. Now, that was an awesome team ...

Samie · « **Reply #83 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:10:13 pm »

I bet the derby matches in that era were intense Mac?

Lastrador · « **Reply #84 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:19:39 pm »

Great match and example of how good that 91 Red Star was.

https://footballia.net/matches/bayern-munchen-crvena-zvezda

Sarge · « **Reply #85 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:22:11 pm »

Quote from: Lastrador on June 5, 2021, 05:19:39 pm

Great match and example of how good that 91 Red Star was.

https://footballia.net/matches/bayern-munchen-crvena-zvezda

Fucking worse final ever though.

Lastrador · « **Reply #86 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:28:06 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on June 5, 2021, 05:22:11 pm

Fucking worse final ever though.

I think the Milan-Juve of 2003 takes some beating, but that was a contender for sure.

Samie · « **Reply #87 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:28:18 pm »

You do remember our last European Cup win run right? Battered Barca in the 2nd leg Semi and then a boring final.

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #88 on:** June 5, 2021, 05:31:34 pm »

Quote from: Samie on June 5, 2021, 05:10:13 pm

I bet the derby matches in that era were intense Mac?

The derbies between Red Star and Hajduk from the 70's were legendary. I was only 11 when my dad took me to a derby in Belgrade. At the time, "Marakana" was not an all-seater, and there were 95,000 people in the stadium. Luckily, we were in a sitting area. Unforgetable experience

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #89 on:** June 5, 2021, 08:44:41 pm »

Quote from: palimpsest on June 5, 2021, 01:44:43 am

I see my wish has been granted! Any love for Safet Sušić here?

My opinions of him are hindered by his lazy arse personality whilst coaching the Bosnian national team

But he was a very good player

paulrazor · « **Reply #90 on:** June 16, 2021, 07:09:04 pm »

Absolutely fantastic

Said it 100s of times they would have won a world cup

At least a euros anyway

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #91 on:** June 16, 2021, 07:15:35 pm »

Quote from: paulrazor on June 16, 2021, 07:09:04 pm

Absolutely fantastic

Said it 100s of times they would have won a world cup

At least a euros anyway

shame it never transpired, even with the earlier generations.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #92 on:** June 16, 2021, 10:45:04 pm »

the future of the former Yugo nations in terms of talent as of late looks quite poor compared to previous years. There are some bright talents here and there, but not quite enough to make a difference overall for the benefit of each country at the international level.

Serbia:

- Vlahovic
- Nikola Milenkovic

Croatia:
-

Bosnia:

- Extremely depressing

Slovenia :

- .............

Montenegro:

- .............

Macedonia :

- Peter on RAWK

There are a number of players who are in their mid 20's who could perhaps elevate to the next level [Milenkovic Savic], or just decent overall [brozovic, pasalic, rebic, ] but nothing really that stands out. Particularly in the attacking positions.

palimpsest · « **Reply #93 on:** June 16, 2021, 10:50:02 pm »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 16, 2021, 10:45:04 pm

Macedonia :

- Peter on RAWK

Better than Sancho.

palimpsest · « **Reply #94 on:** June 16, 2021, 10:51:06 pm »

What happened to that Bosnian lad who was in the LFC academy? His name was Dal or something like that?

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #95 on:** June 16, 2021, 10:53:41 pm »

Quote from: palimpsest on June 16, 2021, 10:51:06 pm

What happened to that Bosnian lad who was in the LFC academy? His name was Dal or something like that?

Was in our youth team up until recently. Joined FK Sarajevo earlier this year and made his debut in March.

hasn't gotten a callup to the senior national side.

paulrazor · « **Reply #96 on:** June 16, 2021, 11:40:36 pm »

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=273063.0

One I did many moons ago on red star

Was briefly a fella called senjak who posted here..very informative guy who followed crvena (aka red star)

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #97 on:** June 17, 2021, 04:14:50 am »

Quote from: paulrazor on June 16, 2021, 11:40:36 pm

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=273063.0

One I did many moons ago on red star

Was briefly a fella called senjak who posted here..very informative guy who followed crvena (aka red star)

Good write up that

Stubbins · « **Reply #98 on:** June 17, 2021, 12:27:52 pm »

A few years back I was in Split on holiday and it coincided with the Hadjuk v Rijeka match. So I took myself off to it. The Adriatic Derby apparently, though it must be a couple of hundred miles between the two cities down a torturous coastal road as far as I can tell.

The football itself wasn't memorable, Rijeka won 2-0, but the mad bastards on the terraces was a sight to behold. I do remember the tight knot of Rijeka fans unfolding a huge banner with the word 'Armada' written across it, which I was told later is their self appointed 'ultra's' name. That didn't go down well with the locals. Fair to say that the authorities seem to have a fairly relaxed view to the use of pyro, flares and fireworks at a Croatian league match. Quite a spectacle and very intimidating.

paulrazor · « **Reply #99 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:08:07 pm »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 17, 2021, 04:14:50 am

Good write up that

thank you

Samie · « **Reply #100 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:12:21 pm »

Any relation to Hellrazor Paul?

paulrazor · « **Reply #101 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:28:38 pm »

Quote from: Samie on June 17, 2021, 02:12:21 pm

Any relation to Hellrazor Paul?

hahaha

same fella

i made a remark in some thread and my name got changed

royhendo · « **Reply #102 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:31:45 pm »

Darko Pancev.

royhendo · « **Reply #103 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:32:31 pm »

Oh and Dragan Stojkovic!

royhendo · « **Reply #104 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:33:12 pm »

Where's Garstonite? *sigh*

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #105 on:** June 17, 2021, 04:06:47 pm »

Whatever happened to the Balkans Mascherano, Mo Besic?

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #106 on:** June 17, 2021, 04:23:37 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on June 17, 2021, 04:06:47 pm

Whatever happened to the Balkans Mascherano, Mo Besic?

Hahaha, always cracked me up, classic yardog footballer. One of my mates at the time bet me money that he would become a better player than Pjanic.

Safe to say I won that bet.

He was released by the Bitters at the start of the month. he had loan spells at Sheffield and Boro in recent years.

palimpsest · « **Reply #107 on:** June 17, 2021, 06:51:21 pm »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 17, 2021, 04:23:37 pm

Hahaha, always cracked me up, classic yardog footballer. One of my mates at the time bet me money that he would become a better player than Pjanic.

Safe to say I won that bet.

He was released by the Bitters at the start of the month. he had loan spells at Sheffield and Boro in recent years.

I wonder how much money he pocketed for doing absolutely nothing. Everton is a charity, not a football club.

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #108 on:** June 17, 2021, 07:52:13 pm »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 17, 2021, 04:23:37 pm

Hahaha, always cracked me up, classic yardog footballer. One of my mates at the time bet me money that he would become a better player than Pjanic.

Safe to say I won that bet.

He was released by the Bitters at the start of the month. he had loan spells at Sheffield and Boro in recent years.

I was being a bit tongue in cheek probably still in a state of shock at finding that he'd been at Everton for SEVEN years!

A Langheck · « **Reply #109 on:** June 17, 2021, 08:02:28 pm »

Quote from: Sarge on June 5, 2021, 05:22:11 pm

Fucking worse final ever though.

Anybody remember the BBC series 'Football, Fussball, Voetball' in the autumn of 1995 as a precursor to Euro '96? One programme was about Eastern Europe, and the Red Star coach was interviewed - the only way they could win the match, was taking it to penalties. Their away win in Munich was the high point, and after that he knew they had gone 'over the hill' physically. They lost the 2nd leg at home, and only got through thanks to a late unfortunate own goal.

For me, my favourite is Il Genio; Berlusconi's player, but not Capello's. On his day, he was almost unplayable.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #110 on:** June 17, 2021, 08:19:32 pm »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on June 17, 2021, 07:52:13 pm

I was being a bit tongue in cheek probably still in a state of shock at finding that he'd been at Everton for SEVEN years!

Mad isn't it, he's been stealing a leaving for almost a decade

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #111 on:** June 17, 2021, 09:54:42 pm »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 16, 2021, 10:45:04 pm

the future of the former Yugo nations in terms of talent as of late looks quite poor compared to previous years. There are some bright talents here and there, but not quite enough to make a difference overall for the benefit of each country at the international level.

Serbia:

- Vlahovic
- Nikola Milenkovic

Croatia:
-

Bosnia:

- Extremely depressing

Slovenia :

- .............

Montenegro:

- .............

Macedonia :

- Peter on RAWK

There are a number of players who are in their mid 20's who could perhaps elevate to the next level [Milenkovic Savic], or just decent overall [brozovic, pasalic, rebic, ] but nothing really that stands out. Particularly in the attacking positions.

You forgot Kosovo

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #112 on:** June 17, 2021, 10:01:58 pm »

I did indeed, although their youth production isn't any better than the ones listed either

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #113 on:** June 17, 2021, 10:17:54 pm »

No mention of Sinisa Mihaljovic?

Divisive and controversial guy, possibly the best free kick taker of all time. Record number of goals from free kicks in Serie A, only player to score a hat-trick of free kicks in Serie A twice (Beppe Signori did it once) and an interesting guy who’s done alright as a manager.

Great story with Bologna and his fight with cancer too. You can’t excuse some of the things he’s chosen to do and say in his career but he was a top player. Started as a winger before eventually moving back and Sven at Samp converted him to a centre half. He came to Italy as a left winger with Roma.

paulrazor · « **Reply #114 on:** June 18, 2021, 08:27:14 am »

his left foot was like a hammer

yugoslavia vs czechoslovakia today

Nitramdorf · « **Reply #115 on:** June 18, 2021, 10:11:13 am »

Dont think ive seen Stankovic mentioned either. A long career in Italy and over a hundred caps.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #116 on:** June 18, 2021, 10:55:06 am »

Quote from: Nitramdorf on June 18, 2021, 10:11:13 am

Dont think ive seen Stankovic mentioned either. A long career in Italy and over a hundred caps.

Classy operator.

Sinisa Mihajlovic's autobiography is an excellent read for anyone who is interested in the history of football during the Balkan conflict and the fall of the Yugoslavian national team.

He says the biggest regret of his career was not being part of the 1987 U20 World Cup Winning Yugoslavian side. They had Jarni, Stimac, Boban, Prosinecki, Mijatovic and Suker. Sinisa was probably that bit too young, only just 18 at the time (though they did have other 18 year olds) and he was playing lower league Croatian football, although being trialled by Zagreb. Dinamo Zagreb ummed and erred about signing him permanently - he was included in a provision U20 squad, then when Dinamo decided not to go for him, he was dropped from the squad.

He then spent three years playing alongside Sheffield Utd's Jokanovic for Vojvodina who were usually midtable also-rans, but they went on to win the Yugoslavian league title against all expectations. Sinisa then moved on to Italy, the rest is history.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #117 on:** June 18, 2021, 05:35:14 pm »

Today's match got me thinking about an all-time line up with the Czeks included

.........................Czech...............

...Simic.........Vidic.........Vasovic.........Jarni.........

.........................Modric.......Boban...............

........Dzajic...............Savicevic...............Nedved............

.............................Suker..............................

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #118 on:** June 30, 2021, 05:37:59 am »

Got to say, this Switzerland team isn't doing half bad having a coach and bunch of players from all over ex-yugoslavia

PeterTheRed ... · « **Reply #119 on:** June 30, 2021, 06:24:39 am »

We often forget that Ibrahimovic, even though he was born in Sweden, also has Bosnian citizenship and passport. He would have probably chosen to play for Yugoslavia ...