Author Topic: Copa America 2021 : 13 June - 11 July in Brazil : Argentina win it @ Maracana (Read 49400 times)

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #200 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:16:23 pm »

Vidal's penalty saved, but Vargas scores the rebound 1-1

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #201 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:16:58 pm »

Vidal scores rebound after Martinez saves the pen.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #202 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:17:50 pm »

Looks like the PL VAR crew has made it to Brazil. Taking an absolute age for every decision.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #203 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:18:00 pm »

Wtf are they checking for?

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #204 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:18:18 pm »

Quote from: oojason on June 14, 2021, 11:14:46 pm

Top clearance by Vidal when taking a shot there. Did take a kick to the bollocks - and also got a penalty for it...

Vidal, of course, will take the penalty... and it is saved. Vidal scores with the rebound. 1-1.

Think it was Vargas who bundled it in. Martinez seemed to be appealing for handball rather than trying to stop the rebound. He was pretty unlucky after the original save to be fair!

oojason · « **Reply #205 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:21:32 pm »

Top clearance by Vidal when taking a shot there. Did take a kick to the bollocks for his troubles - and also got a penalty for it...

Vidal, of course, will take the penalty... and it is saved. Vargas scores with the rebound (looked to be an handball during it?).

Argentina 1-1 Chile; Eduardo Vargas goal on 57' - https://streamable.com/4w7pxh & https://streamable.com/ckl5i2 & https://streamable.com/5w6t9f

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #206 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:23:42 pm »

Chile have upped their game in the second half.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #207 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:39:51 pm »

What a sitter missed by Gonzalez.

Samie · « **Reply #208 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:40:06 pm »

Bad miss that.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #209 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:51:16 pm »

Di Maria has still got it.

Robinred · « **Reply #210 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:54:19 pm »

With no crowd in, I’m shocked that they haven’t been able to find the sniper in the stand.

oojason · « **Reply #211 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:54:34 pm »

Argentina missed chance on 80' - https://streamable.com/wc0ry2

Argentina missed chance on 90+1’ - https://streamable.com/nziwu6

1-1; full-time. 3 minute highlights - www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDrGeb6TfOU

Samie · « **Reply #212 on:** June 14, 2021, 11:56:53 pm »

Messi is good but if you play with 10 other farmers how the fuck do you expect to win a tournament in this day and age? We're also talking about a Messi who's not at the top of his game anymore as well.

PoetryInMotion · « **Reply #213 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:03:29 am »

Quote from: Samie on June 14, 2021, 11:56:53 pm

Messi is good but if you play with 10 other farmers how the fuck do you expect to win a tournament in this day and age? We're also talking about a Messi who's not at the top of his game anymore as well.

Yeah they're still relying on him to pull the strings.

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #214 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:05:12 am »

Pleased for Big Ben Brereton. He outmuscled several argentinian players on the pitch and was very lively! Not bad for his literal first game for us

Hope to see him against Bolivia to be honest.

As for the rest of the match, I thought we improved a lot during the second half, though we were still missing a dangerous edge. I feel we were closer to Argentina's level despite not having many "star" players (or the ones from our Golden Generation being past their peak). All in all, not a bad result though I think the second half proved the match was very winnable.

Samie · « **Reply #215 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:07:33 am »

Mate, why you guys still playing with the same squad from like 2012?

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #216 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:18:07 am »

Quote from: Samie on June 15, 2021, 12:07:33 am

Mate, why you guys still playing with the same squad from like 2012?

long story short: we're fucked. Our FA decided to gamble on the "Golden Generation" (essentially Bravo, Medel, Isla, Vidal, Aránguiz, Alexis plus others) to carry us over but the work towards finding new rising star has been... lackluster, to say the least. Especially because lots of clubs don't really care (so their youth setups are more like meatgrinders, churning out players that never rise above the strictly 'national' level), others don't have the money. And the few who do... you have some of those young kids falling prey to football agents who fill their heads with dreams of playing in Europe ASAP instead of doing the long grind and never making it, others who *do* go there and flop because they're not mature enough, they're homesick and don't perform as well as they could so they don't reach their potential and so on. Or others actually have a decent enough career outside, but at small clubs or lesser known leagues... and that's their level. And it shows.

So it's not a very good panorama, to be honest. We're just enjoying the ride that's coming to an end, hoping we somehow pull a miracle in the next couple of years and unearth some gems who will shine bright.

Samie · « **Reply #217 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:20:59 am »

Ah that is a shame. May as well bring back Salas and Zamarano as well then. 90's were good for you upfront.

oojason · « **Reply #218 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:22:13 am »

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Paraguay vs Bolivia - a 1am kick off (UK time). https://twitter.com/albirroja & https://twitter.com/laverde_fbf

Paraguay XI: Silva; Espínola, Gómez, Alonso, Arzamendia; Romero Gamarra, Piris da Motta, Villasanti; Á. Romero, Ávalos, Almirón.

Bolivia XI: Cordano; Bejarano, Jusino, Quinteros, Sagredo; Justiniano; Cespedes, Saavedra, Cuéllar, Flores; Álvarez.

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #219 on:** June 15, 2021, 12:31:45 am »

Quote from: Samie on June 15, 2021, 12:20:59 am

Ah that is a shame. May as well bring back Salas and Zamarano as well then. 90's were good for you upfront.

yeah, those were the days!

And, funnily enough, Alexis and Vargas are the top 2 all-time goalscorers for our national team, while Salas and Zamorano are in third and fourth place, respectively

OsirisMVZ · « **Reply #220 on:** June 15, 2021, 01:14:38 am »

How on earth have they given that as a pen (Paraguay v Bolivia), after checking for about 5 minutes? Arm doesn't move, his back is to the ball, and it is blasted at him from point blank range.

oojason · « **Reply #221 on:** June 15, 2021, 01:17:01 am »

Desert Red Fox · « **Reply #222 on:** June 15, 2021, 01:58:58 am »

Quote from: OsirisMVZ on June 15, 2021, 01:14:38 am

How on earth have they given that as a pen (Paraguay v Bolivia), after checking for about 5 minutes? Arm doesn't move, his back is to the ball, and it is blasted at him from point blank range.

CONMEBOL refs. It's better that you don't ask

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oojason · « **Reply #223 on:** June 15, 2021, 01:59:02 am »

'Copa America: Coronavirus cases among workers at team hotels in Brazil':-

Brazil's Ministry of Health said on Monday that 31 players and Copa America delegation members had tested positive for COVID-19 by Sunday, the first day of the South American tournament.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/copa-america/story/4409035/copa-america-coronavirus-cases-among-workers-at-team-hotels-in-brazil

Fromola · « **Reply #224 on:** June 15, 2021, 06:24:00 am »

Quote from: Desert Red Fox on June 15, 2021, 01:58:58 am

CONMEBOL refs. It's better that you don't ask .

It just shows the application of VAR is as good or bad as the refs using it

Mr Mingebag Squid · « **Reply #225 on:** June 15, 2021, 01:52:15 pm »

Quote from: Desert Red Fox on June 15, 2021, 12:05:12 am

Pleased for Big Ben Brereton. He outmuscled several argentinian players on the pitch and was very lively! Not bad for his literal first game for us

Hope to see him against Bolivia to be honest.

As for the rest of the match, I thought we improved a lot during the second half, though we were still missing a dangerous edge. I feel we were closer to Argentina's level despite not having many "star" players (or the ones from our Golden Generation being past their peak). All in all, not a bad result though I think the second half proved the match was very winnable.

The kid who plays (or played) for Forest??

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #226 on:** June 15, 2021, 02:02:40 pm »

Quote from: Mr Mingebag Squid on June 15, 2021, 01:52:15 pm

The kid who plays (or played) for Forest??

Plays for Blackburn now.

Samie · « **Reply #227 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:18:24 pm »

No Copa tonight?

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #228 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:21:47 pm »

Quote from: Samie on June 15, 2021, 10:18:24 pm

No Copa tonight?

Nope. Colombia-Venezuela and Brazil-Peru tomorrow

Fromola · « **Reply #229 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:31:01 pm »

Quote from: Samie on June 15, 2021, 10:18:24 pm

No Copa tonight?

Stupid format. Bring on the knockouts.

please, I have my reasons for it but... · « **Reply #230 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:52:33 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on June 15, 2021, 10:21:47 pm

Nope. Colombia-Venezuela and Brazil-Peru tomorrow

Not tomorrow but Thursday

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #231 on:** June 15, 2021, 10:59:12 pm »

My mistake

The G in Gerrard · « **Reply #232 on:** June 15, 2021, 11:00:38 pm »

No place in South America could have fans back in stadiums? It's pretty poor without it.

rodderzzz · « **Reply #233 on:** June 16, 2021, 01:57:39 am »

For those of you who have noticed the abysmal application of VAR and the time it takes to get to a decision, as a frequent watcher of Brasileirao and Libertadores, I'll tell you its like this Every. Single. Week!

oojason · « **Reply #234 on:** June 17, 2021, 03:39:08 pm »

Quote from: rodderzzz on June 16, 2021, 01:57:39 am

For those of you who have noticed the abysmal application of VAR and the time it takes to get to a decision, as a frequent watcher of Brasileirao and Libertadores, I'll tell you its like this Every. Single. Week!

And they still get it wrong!

oojason · « **Reply #235 on:** June 17, 2021, 08:53:47 pm »

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Colombia 0 - 0 Venezuela; full-time. 3 minute highlights - www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XX2qAEe_yo

Colombia XI: Ospina; Muñoz, Yerry Mina, Sánchez, Tesillo; Cardona, Barrios, Uribe, Cuadrado; Zapata, Muriel

Venezuela XI: Faríñez; Alexander González, Adrián Martínez, La Mantia, Mago, Cumana; Brujo Martínez, Junior Moreno, Manzano, Cásseres; Aristeguieta.

VAR penalty check on 3’ (shirt pull on Colombia player in the penalty area - VAR says no penalty) - https://www.clippituser.tv/c/wwepnw & https://streamable.com/1p0dm2

Yerry Mina miss vs Venezuela on 13’ - https://www.clippituser.tv/c/lxzwqq & https://streamable.com/5n8fb7

Venezuela GK Fariñez save vs Cardona on 24’ - https://www.clippituser.tv/c/kxlqnb & https://streamable.com/rzc8d2

Venezuela GK Fariñez save from overhead kick on 53' - https://streamable.com/9burba & https://twitter.com/SimonEdwardsSAF/status/1405651815132192771

Venezuela GK Fariñez another top save on 89' - https://twitter.com/FOXSoccer/status/1405659611823329281

Colombia's Diaz red card on 90+4 (seemed his foot accidentally landed on his opponent after playing the ball?) - https://streamable.com/oi32b3

The 1989 Brit Awards · « **Reply #236 on:** June 17, 2021, 11:17:25 pm »

Venezuelan goalie having the game of his life against us.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #237 on:** June 17, 2021, 11:21:03 pm »

Four group games just to eliminate two teams (likely Bolivia and Venezuela).

oojason · « **Reply #238 on:** June 17, 2021, 11:43:01 pm »

Loving the BBC commentator for the Copa America

It does sound like he's sitting in his kitchen watching the game on a 14" b&w portable tv and doing comms for the game (circa EuroSport in the late 90's!) - but he nails the player names, pronunciations, and gives some decent brief and relevant info about them.

Dry sense of humour too - and says it like it is.

Apologises and corrects himself when he gets things wrong too. Far better than the dross doing comms and analysis on Euro 2020.

Andy82lfc · « **Reply #239 on:** June 17, 2021, 11:46:58 pm »

Quote from: oojason on June 17, 2021, 11:43:01 pm

Loving the BBC commentator for the Copa America

It does sound like he's sitting in his kitchen watching the game on a 14" b&w portable tv and doing comms for the game (circa EuroSport in the late 90's!) - but he nails the player names, pronunciations, and gives some decent brief and relevant info about them.

Dry sense of humour too - and says it like it is.

Apologises and corrects himself when he gets things wrong too. Far better than the dross doing comms and analysis on Euro 2020.

Same here

I actually thought he was a bit dull when I first heard him on a few games but he's grew on me a lot. Really knowledgeable and just, well, commentates. Like you say breath of fresh air compared to some of the ego's on comms these days and in the Euros.