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« Reply #6720 on: June 7, 2021, 12:48:15 pm »
Just seen him pictured in a PSG shirt with his trademark smile. Gutted but best of luck Gini!
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« Reply #6721 on: June 7, 2021, 12:57:56 pm »

Delighted for Gini, absolutely deserves his payday and fuck Barca  :-)

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« Reply #6722 on: June 7, 2021, 01:01:26 pm »
Delighted for Gini, absolutely deserves his payday and fuck Barca  :-)

Though it does make PSG a truly formidable team now. (And, of course, it severely weakens us).
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« Reply #6723 on: June 7, 2021, 01:12:16 pm »
A Liverpool legend. Best of luck to him. Really hope he is replaced.

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« Reply #6724 on: June 7, 2021, 01:13:49 pm »
All the best in France, Gini. I can see us facing him in the groups this season.

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« Reply #6725 on: June 7, 2021, 01:26:26 pm »
So he went for the glory then.

What a shocker.

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« Reply #6726 on: June 7, 2021, 01:28:24 pm »
Great signing for them. Disappointed Gini went for PSG but I guess he wanted a club he could be sure would actually pay him each month.

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« Reply #6727 on: June 7, 2021, 01:31:55 pm »
Though it does make PSG a truly formidable team now. (And, of course, it severely weakens us).

I don't think it severely weakens us. It may weaken us on paper - but we should see what the rest of the summer brings as well.

(and yes I know it's absurd - but maybe Keita plays incredibly well next season after a summer off?)

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« Reply #6728 on: June 7, 2021, 01:37:03 pm »
I don't think it severely weakens us. It may weaken us on paper - but we should see what the rest of the summer brings as well.

(and yes I know it's absurd - but maybe Keita plays incredibly well next season after a summer off?)

As it stands it weakens us but again as you say need to see what the summer brings.

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« Reply #6729 on: June 7, 2021, 01:43:31 pm »
Rather him go to PSG than Barcelona. PSG is infinitely more likable than Barca, which is really saying something.

Couldn't disagree with this more. 

I'm glad that Gini is getting a massive payday as he deserves it.  It's just too bad that he's going to the French League where he'll play in relative obscurity. 

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« Reply #6730 on: June 7, 2021, 01:45:01 pm »
Thats about £320k per week gross, however he'd cost PSG about £420k per week or £62m over 3 years as the club has to incur the top tax rate of 75% over the players base tax of 49%.

Sounds like some FFP for them once again.

They don’t care about money but objectively that’s a horrible deal for them if that’s the wage
Great deal for him of course and clearly any idea we should’ve ‘paid him what he wants’ is now clearly not right

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« Reply #6731 on: June 7, 2021, 01:46:47 pm »
That's a horrible deal for them at those numbers, but then I guess the numbers don't really matter to them so it's immaterial.

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« Reply #6732 on: June 7, 2021, 01:48:23 pm »
That's a horrible deal for them at those numbers, but then I guess the numbers don't really matter to them so it's immaterial.

Yes ... but they also do seem to be really quite bad at spending their infinite money!!

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« Reply #6733 on: June 7, 2021, 01:48:32 pm »
Couldn't disagree with this more. 

I'm glad that Gini is getting a massive payday as he deserves it.  It's just too bad that he's going to the French League where he'll play in relative obscurity.

I just despise barcelona and their disgusting arrogance. I am not a fan of PSG either. Ideally both would go out of business and their stadiums would be demolished and turned into car parks.

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« Reply #6734 on: June 7, 2021, 01:53:32 pm »
Fuck Gini and everybody else who joins them.

A class act sir. You really are the best of us Liverpool fans.

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« Reply #6735 on: June 7, 2021, 01:57:07 pm »
I don't think it severely weakens us. It may weaken us on paper - but we should see what the rest of the summer brings as well.

(and yes I know it's absurd - but maybe Keita plays incredibly well next season after a summer off?)

Keita being fit enough to play more than two games in a row would be amazing on all sorts of levels. Keita changing the course of the game is still something I hope to see before he leaves Anfield.

But I take your first point. Let's hope the rest of the summer brings us a midfielder at Gini's level. Because we certainly need one.
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« Reply #6736 on: June 7, 2021, 02:05:43 pm »
I just despise barcelona and their disgusting arrogance. I am not a fan of PSG either. Ideally both would go out of business and their stadiums would be demolished and turned into car parks.

I've been to Barcelona several times and absolutely love the city so am a little biased I guess.

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« Reply #6737 on: June 7, 2021, 02:49:23 pm »
They don’t care about money but objectively that’s a horrible deal for them if that’s the wage
Great deal for him of course and clearly any idea we should’ve ‘paid him what he wants’ is now clearly not right

Perhaps he wouldve stayed with us for less though. We don’t know. They’ve given him a 3yr deal and we weren’t prepared to go that long.

That’s the bit that annoys me and that he was on the same money since he joined. I’d be pissed as well if I was him yet he was our most durable midfielder (only playing 2 less games than Bobby since he joined) and a consummate professional throughout.
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« Reply #6738 on: June 7, 2021, 02:52:19 pm »
Perhaps he wouldve stayed with us for less though. We don’t know. They’ve given him a 3yr deal and we weren’t prepared to go that long.

That’s the bit that annoys me and that he was on the same money since he joined. I’d be pissed as well if I was him yet he was our most durable midfielder (only playing 2 less games than Bobby since he joined) and a consummate professional throughout.
It's 3 years on huge wages though. It's not as simple as saying he signed 3 years at PSG so he'd have signed for 3 years here at X wage. We also don't know what we've offered/he's rejected in previous years before it got to the stage where he was being underpaid by us

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« Reply #6739 on: June 7, 2021, 03:03:56 pm »
Oh well, thanks for the memories, he's one I'll defo miss.

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« Reply #6740 on: June 7, 2021, 03:09:47 pm »
He's been a fantastic servant to the club and I'm happy that got the payday he wanted and deserved. Ultimately it made sense for us not to make that investment on him given his age, mileage and age profile of the squad.
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« Reply #6741 on: June 7, 2021, 03:10:01 pm »
Mixed feelings on all this really. People will say he's greedy etc, I mean how many thousands a week is enough? But we don't know the situation, could have been based on principle that he felt he was being offered way less than similar players. Maybe he will tell all soon as he hinted.

Then you think well Klopp made him into the player he is, like so many before/with him, so surely some loyalty comes into it considering he may have been languishing with clubs like newcastle and others for the last few years. Klopp plucked him from there as a decent buy on the cheap, he wasn't exactly bought from them with people thinking he was world class or anything close. Then again he probably thinks, as many would, this is his last big contract, I put all the work in myself and have put everything into being a top player, not many more chances after this contract so why not get as much as you can.

All of my inner ramblings aside, he was brilliant for us so just wish him all the best.

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« Reply #6742 on: June 7, 2021, 03:15:37 pm »
At the end of the day the club saw no financial value in resigning him. The player obviously wanted better terms or guarantees on contract length thus no agreement could be made. It happens. It’s a massive shame but we all wish him the best and we will miss him.

The club obviously feel that making an exception to their financial model would cause longer term issues for us, with other players wanting to be an ‘exception’.

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« Reply #6743 on: June 7, 2021, 03:21:15 pm »
It's a shame that we couldn't agree a new deal for him as he was hardly ever injured and a quality player.  Sorry to see him leave, but all the best to him and can't blame him for going for a pay day and more or less guaranteed trophies at PSG over Barca when he's in the last 2 or 3 years of his career at the top level. 

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« Reply #6744 on: June 7, 2021, 03:22:52 pm »
Honoured his contract. Never rocked the boat, always available and helped us win a couple of big trophies.

Good luck Gini

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« Reply #6745 on: June 7, 2021, 04:16:11 pm »
Honoured his contract. Never rocked the boat, always available and helped us win a couple of big trophies.

Good luck Gini

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« Reply #6746 on: June 7, 2021, 04:42:50 pm »
Jesus Christ. I can't blame Gini for moving for that kind of money, but I can't blame LFC for not matching it.

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« Reply #6747 on: June 7, 2021, 04:59:35 pm »
It's a risk but you can definitely see the value in running down your contract if you're a player.  Wouldn't be surprised to see more and more players do this which makes for some interesting squad building dynamics.

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« Reply #6748 on: June 7, 2021, 05:21:46 pm »
It's a risk but you can definitely see the value in running down your contract if you're a player.  Wouldn't be surprised to see more and more players do this which makes for some interesting squad building dynamics.

Yep.  You can feel free to negotiate with whichever club you like (not just ones that can afford transfer fees in the moment), and you get a nice signing fee (which the new club is willing to spend more on since they're not paying a transfer fee).

If you're not on a lot of money initially as a young player, you'll definitely want to sign a big new contract (even if it locks you in), but if you're getting decent money and want either a big payday (or contract length worth your liking) or a specific challenge, you can take a risk in running contracts down to get more options.
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« Reply #6749 on: June 7, 2021, 05:25:05 pm »
Honoured his contract. Never rocked the boat, always available and helped us win a couple of big trophies.

Good luck Gini

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« Reply #6750 on: June 7, 2021, 05:31:46 pm »
Jesus Christ. I can't blame Gini for moving for that kind of money, but I can't blame LFC for not matching it.
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« Reply #6751 on: June 7, 2021, 05:35:55 pm »
Jesus Christ. I can't blame Gini for moving for that kind of money, but I can't blame LFC for not matching it.

I doubt Liverpool needed to match it.
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« Reply #6752 on: June 7, 2021, 06:47:30 pm »
Good luck to him. He's chosen one last big payoff and I don't blame him for that and have absolutely no problem with it.

He'll be 31 later this year. It's not as if he's an up and coming star in his early 20's and chosen the easy option to go there. It's not as if he's going to China either which is the very definition of obscurity. He's already won pretty much everything there is to win on a club level too.

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« Reply #6753 on: June 7, 2021, 08:14:23 pm »
He ran his contract down on purpose as a long term strategy and now hes absolutely hit the jackpot. I predicted he'd pull between 30-40 million usd and looks like hes nailed about 35  ;D for 3 years in a good side in a great city in a fairly easy league. Nice work if you can get it.

He's played a blinder. Nothing for anybody to complain about, we made a reasonable offer but he got more elsewhere and that just the way the cookie crumbles. He took a risk, if he had suffered a bad injury in the last 6 months it would have all disappeared in a second.

 
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« Reply #6754 on: June 7, 2021, 08:24:29 pm »
He's only signed for PSG to tap up Mbappe ;)

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« Reply #6755 on: June 7, 2021, 09:04:59 pm »
Thats about £320k per week gross, however he'd cost PSG about £420k per week or £62m over 3 years as the club has to incur the top tax rate of 75% over the players base tax of 49%.

Sounds like some FFP for them once again.

Isn't 8.6m a year gross around £165k a week? I think your maths might be a bit off or maybe mine is. I am made up for Gini because he has been underpaid for about 4 years. His contract at Liverpool was never upgraded from when he signed form Newcastle and he was a real integral part of our team and success. I would imagine he was on about 60k to 80k a week and he then sees Naby and Ox come in on more money. Hendo and Milner were also on bigger wages and then you add Thiago's big wages last summer.

I am amazed we never heard a peep from Gini about unhappiness with his situation but he just was a model pro and along with his consistency is going to be a very big loss to the squad and the dressing room. Good luck to him at PSG and if the wages reports are true getting 25m in his last big contract.

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« Reply #6756 on: June 7, 2021, 10:51:37 pm »
Isn't 8.6m a year gross around £165k a week? I think your maths might be a bit off or maybe mine is. I am made up for Gini because he has been underpaid for about 4 years. His contract at Liverpool was never upgraded from when he signed form Newcastle and he was a real integral part of our team and success. I would imagine he was on about 60k to 80k a week and he then sees Naby and Ox come in on more money. Hendo and Milner were also on bigger wages and then you add Thiago's big wages last summer.

I am amazed we never heard a peep from Gini about unhappiness with his situation but he just was a model pro and along with his consistency is going to be a very big loss to the squad and the dressing room. Good luck to him at PSG and if the wages reports are true getting 25m in his last big contract.

I was calculating his cost. Yes, he is on £165k net. French income tax is 49% and there is a premium of 75% that the club must wear for salaries over €1M per annum.
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« Reply #6757 on: June 8, 2021, 01:47:21 am »
He's only signed for PSG to tap up Mbappe ;)
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« Reply #6758 on: June 10, 2021, 03:12:24 pm »
All the best to him. A great.
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