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2021 Who is the best

Ally McCoist
Pat Nevin
Liam Rosenior
Andres Cantor
Lutalo Muhammad
Barry Davies
Nasser Hussain
Michael Johnson
Gaby Logan
Natalie Sawyer
Andy Brasswell
Orla Chennaoui
Arlo White
Hazel Irvine
Ebony Rainford-Brent
Isa Guha
Clare Balding
Chris Hoy
Becky Adlington
Beth Tweddle
Katherine Grainger
Richie Woodhall
Kelly Cates
Alan Shearer
Gary Lineker
Gary Neville
Jamie Carragher
Graeme Souness
Martin Tyler
John Champion
Clive Tyldesley
Jim Beglin
Ian Darke
Seb Hutchinson
Karen Carney
Alan Parry
David Coulthard
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« Reply #8000 on: May 30, 2021, 11:23:53 pm »
Well...quite. That was kinda my point. Nevermind!
in that case you clearly missed mine in the first place. Nevermind!

Clearly, both you lads have reached nirvana...
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« Reply #8001 on: May 31, 2021, 01:46:58 am »
Clearly, both you lads have reached nirvana...
Nevermind.
If your moral compass is Piers Moron then I ask you to think whether someone who oversaw illegal phone hacking and published fake pictures depicting War Crimes is an appropriate person to look up to. In fact, I'd suggest you're a bit of a c*nt.

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« Reply #8002 on: May 31, 2021, 09:08:19 am »
in that case you clearly missed mine in the first place. Nevermind!
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« Reply #8003 on: May 31, 2021, 03:36:09 pm »
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« Reply #8004 on: May 31, 2021, 04:19:53 pm »
Tyler..as if you need reminding of how bad he is..only watched the first 1min30secs of this & immediately brought me here..
Twat..and a twat of a commentator.
The bias is off the scale..

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Reminded me of how excited he was in the Viduka 4-3 game and how he wanted to slit his wrists when Vladi put us in lead at 3-2

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« Reply #8005 on: May 31, 2021, 05:28:23 pm »
Lee Hendrie I think it is doing the play-off today. Fucking hell his voice is dull as ditchwater and he has nothing of interest to add to proceedings. Why can they not find people who at least sound like they want to be there?
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« Reply #8006 on: May 31, 2021, 05:35:44 pm »
Lee Hendrie I think it is doing the play-off today. Fucking hell his voice is dull as ditchwater and he has nothing of interest to add to proceedings. Why can they not find people who at least sound like they want to be there?

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« Reply #8007 on: May 31, 2021, 08:32:13 pm »
Dean Saunders back on TalkSport again then ?  (allegedly, haven't heard it with my own lugs). What is it with that station, do they have to have a conviction for drunk driving to get a gig ? Saunders, Brazil, Sinclair. Probably others. Slap on the wrist, sit on the sidelines a year or so and we'l bring you back when people have forgotten.

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« Reply #8008 on: May 31, 2021, 09:22:10 pm »
Lee Hendrie I think it is doing the play-off today. Fucking hell his voice is dull as ditchwater and he has nothing of interest to add to proceedings. Why can they not find people who at least sound like they want to be there?

That peeves me off no end. In the day and age where few if any can get in, these gobshites have what people would give their right bullock for and they sound bored and make it sound like a chore. McManaman is the same


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« Reply #8009 on: June 2, 2021, 04:49:34 pm »
Five Live Euro pundits/commentators.


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« Reply #8010 on: June 3, 2021, 01:23:30 pm »
Gabby Agbonlahor can go fuck himself.  Laying into Hendo for “being selfish” for not withdrawing from the England squad as he’s not fit.

No, it’s not Southgate’s fault for picking him at all. It appears he’s not called Harry Maguire selfish despite the fact that he’s currently hobbling around on one leg.  A few others are carrying knocks as well, but they’re not selfish. Strange that now they can’t moan about Trent they’ve gone straight to digging out Henderson.  I mean it’s not exactly subtle, is it?


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« Reply #8011 on: June 4, 2021, 12:45:37 pm »
Gabby Agbonlahor can go fuck himself.  Laying into Hendo for “being selfish” for not withdrawing from the England squad as he’s not fit.

No, it’s not Southgate’s fault for picking him at all. It appears he’s not called Harry Maguire selfish despite the fact that he’s currently hobbling around on one leg.  A few others are carrying knocks as well, but they’re not selfish. Strange that now they can’t moan about Trent they’ve gone straight to digging out Henderson.  I mean it’s not exactly subtle, is it?
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« Reply #8012 on: June 4, 2021, 03:42:20 pm »
Gabby Agbonlahor can go fuck himself.  Laying into Hendo for “being selfish” for not withdrawing from the England squad as he’s not fit.

No, it’s not Southgate’s fault for picking him at all. It appears he’s not called Harry Maguire selfish despite the fact that he’s currently hobbling around on one leg.  A few others are carrying knocks as well, but they’re not selfish. Strange that now they can’t moan about Trent they’ve gone straight to digging out Henderson.  I mean it’s not exactly subtle, is it?
I'm sick of these nonentities being given a platform to spout utter shite unchallenged.
If Hendo was the only player trying to prove his fitness, then there'd may be a very small justification for what he said. But when Hendo is one of a few players in a similar position injurywise, to single him out without even acknowledging the other players is pathetic.
Some of the pundits nowadays really do struggle to form a coherent thought, either that or they know exactly what they are doing.
There's so much talk about respect in football, but when some washed up never was like Agbonlahor thinks Hendo, who has achieved so much, is fair game, then it makes a mockery of the whole notion of respect.

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« Reply #8013 on: June 4, 2021, 04:21:25 pm »
Agbonlahor has to be one of if not the thickest out there. He'd put you to sleep too listening to him. Mad how the people doing the numbers think he is a person who draws audiences and entertains. Heard him few days ago getting asked who his outside tip was for the Euros. Outside tip. England. Yeah, the favourites.

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« Reply #8014 on: June 10, 2021, 05:28:45 pm »
I've mentioned the LFC TV commentator(s) on here before, but I've only just discovered this one.

Final moments of the UCL semi-final against Barca:

"They've just gotta see it through for this last few anxious moments."

The final whistle goes.

"Don't ever tell them....that nothing...is possible."

What?! I've never heard someone who sounds so scripted and rehearsed while also sounding like he hasn't got a clue what to say and coming out with utter nonsense.

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« Reply #8015 on: June 10, 2021, 07:48:44 pm »
I've mentioned the LFC TV commentator(s) on here before, but I've only just discovered this one.

Final moments of the UCL semi-final against Barca:

"They've just gotta see it through for this last few anxious moments."

The final whistle goes.

"Don't ever tell them....that nothing...is possible."

What?! I've never heard someone who sounds so scripted and rehearsed while also sounding like he hasn't got a clue what to say and coming out with utter nonsense.
Odd example to get exercised about. Not sure what's so bad about that. A bit obvious maybe but it fit well with the narrative around that game. Seems pretty harmless.

All commentators script and rehearse various things they could say, depending on events and outcome. It makes things easier in the moment.
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« Reply #8016 on: June 10, 2021, 09:18:07 pm »
Whoever dresses Micah Richards needs to measure him up properly, he's bursting out of his suit on BBC1 right now like the Incredible Hulk. No chance he doesn't rip some seams with a raucous laugh. Looks ridiculous, just wear clothes that fit you.
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« Reply #8017 on: June 10, 2021, 09:24:43 pm »
Gabby Agbonlahor can go fuck himself.  Laying into Hendo for “being selfish” for not withdrawing from the England squad as he’s not fit.

No, it’s not Southgate’s fault for picking him at all. It appears he’s not called Harry Maguire selfish despite the fact that he’s currently hobbling around on one leg.  A few others are carrying knocks as well, but they’re not selfish. Strange that now they can’t moan about Trent they’ve gone straight to digging out Henderson.  I mean it’s not exactly subtle, is it?


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« Reply #8018 on: June 11, 2021, 10:18:09 am »
It's not a surprise, but the list of pundits doesn't exactly fill me with excitement. Apart from a few exceptions, they look pretty dire - and the usual non informed comment will have to do.

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« Reply #8019 on: June 11, 2021, 10:30:19 am »
Whoever dresses Micah Richards needs to measure him up properly, he's bursting out of his suit on BBC1 right now like the Incredible Hulk. No chance he doesn't rip some seams with a raucous laugh. Looks ridiculous, just wear clothes that fit you.

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« Reply #8020 on: June 11, 2021, 11:38:55 am »
The pundits being revealed for the Euro's on the BBC and ITV sites was cringey. I can't remember the last time I watched any of the pre/post/half time stuff myself, it's just a load of shite now, attempts at being controversial or people with no idea what they are going on about.

"So Jermaine, why do you think Alan Dzagoev never really reached the heights predicted for him at the 2012 Euros?"

Don't think so.
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« Reply #8021 on: June 11, 2021, 11:40:09 am »
“You won’t like me when I’m over the top happy”

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« Reply #8022 on: June 11, 2021, 11:56:05 am »
Whoever dresses Micah Richards needs to measure him up properly, he's bursting out of his suit on BBC1 right now like the Incredible Hulk. No chance he doesn't rip some seams with a raucous laugh. Looks ridiculous, just wear clothes that fit you.

Lineker jokingly asked him about North Macedonia’s squad. “Hahahaha, I knew you were going to do that to me. Hahahahaha.”

Well why the fuck didn’t he actually do a bit of fucking reading, and watch some of the qualifying campaign back, then? I mean he’s had all week to prepare, and could have actually informed people instead of just ignorantly laughing at the idea of a “lesser” footballing nation playing in a major tournament.

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« Reply #8023 on: June 11, 2021, 12:02:07 pm »
Lineker jokingly asked him about North Macedonia’s squad. “Hahahaha, I knew you were going to do that to me. Hahahahaha.”

Well why the fuck didn’t he actually do a bit of fucking reading, and watch some of the qualifying campaign back, then? I mean he’s had all week to prepare, and could have actually informed people instead of just ignorantly laughing at the idea of a “lesser” footballing nation playing in a major tournament.

Twats.
In the same breath, I also look forward to the pundits saying things like "you can't get away with things like that at international level" about top league players, like playing against North Macedonia is more difficult than being involved in a Liverpool vs Man City match.
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« Reply #8024 on: June 11, 2021, 12:07:09 pm »
Well why the fuck didn’t he actually do a bit of fucking reading, and watch some of the qualifying campaign back, then? I mean he’s had all week to prepare, and could have actually informed people instead of just ignorantly laughing at the idea of a “lesser” footballing nation playing in a major tournament.

I've never understood this mentality. The joke is these ex-player pundits would have during their career been required to watch some analysis of the opposition. They're in a privileged role in which their celebrity allows them to get a pulpit, when there are better pundits who won't get an opportunity because they aren't known to the casual viewer who only tunes in every tournament. I think we were at a tipping point a few years ago where it looked like media punditry was going to shift towards better analysis (hiring pundits who actually understood certain leagues and sides like Laurens and Honigstein), only for it to start shifting back in the other direction.

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« Reply #8025 on: June 11, 2021, 12:08:48 pm »
I've never understood this mentality. The joke is these ex-player pundits would have during their career been required to watch some analysis of the opposition. They're in a privileged role in which their celebrity allows them to get a pulpit, when there are better pundits who won't get an opportunity because they aren't known to the casual viewer who only tunes in every tournament. I think we were at a tipping point a few years ago where it looked like media punditry was going to shift towards better analysis (hiring pundits who actually understood certain leagues and sides like Laurens and Honigstein), only for it to start shifting back in the other direction.

BT Sport has some of the better, non-playing pundits on its score show from time to time, and the contempt that the likes of Chris Sutton treat them with is ridiculous.
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« Reply #8026 on: June 11, 2021, 12:09:58 pm »
BT Sport has some of the better, non-playing pundits on its score show from time to time, and the contempt that the likes of Chris Sutton treat them with is ridiculous.

Chris Sutton is an absolute clown
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« Reply #8027 on: June 11, 2021, 12:17:56 pm »
BT Sport has some of the better, non-playing pundits on its score show from time to time, and the contempt that the likes of Chris Sutton treat them with is ridiculous.

I was watching an old Room 101 the other night and Fay Ripley put football pundits in. Lineker was sat next to her and tried to do a jokey face but you could see he didnt like it much. He then went on to say, "Who better to talk about football, than an ex player"

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« Reply #8028 on: June 11, 2021, 12:31:04 pm »
I've never understood this mentality. The joke is these ex-player pundits would have during their career been required to watch some analysis of the opposition. They're in a privileged role in which their celebrity allows them to get a pulpit, when there are better pundits who won't get an opportunity because they aren't known to the casual viewer who only tunes in every tournament. I think we were at a tipping point a few years ago where it looked like media punditry was going to shift towards better analysis (hiring pundits who actually understood certain leagues and sides like Laurens and Honigstein), only for it to start shifting back in the other direction.

I think it was a  few world World Cups ago that they had someone on who actually bothered to put in a bit of effort to find out some things about a lesser known side and tried talking about them before kick off in a game that actually involved them.  Lineker pulled one of those mocking “Ooh fancy that” faces and someone like Lawrenson just said “you need to get out more” then they all fell about laughing.  And that was the other pundits contribution to proceedings.  Utterly feeble.

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« Reply #8029 on: June 11, 2021, 12:56:53 pm »
It's actually considered a laughing matter on Sky when Paul "Merse" Merson butchers the pronunciation of a players name, people are paying top dollar for Sky Sports subscriptions and this is the best Sky can offer?

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« Reply #8030 on: June 11, 2021, 02:12:17 pm »
It's actually considered a laughing matter on Sky when Paul "Merse" Merson butchers the pronunciation of a players name, people are paying top dollar for Sky Sports subscriptions and this is the best Sky can offer?

Absolute moron.
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« Reply #8031 on: June 11, 2021, 02:23:12 pm »
What are you expecting as the number 1 saying on the bulllshit bingo card then from old JJ this tournament.
I have - "You would have scored that Gary" - as my favourite
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« Reply #8032 on: June 11, 2021, 02:28:33 pm »
I think he’s “only” on co-commentary. Thankfully.

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« Reply #8033 on: June 11, 2021, 03:11:10 pm »
I think he’s “only” on co-commentary. Thankfully.

And every advert.

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« Reply #8034 on: June 11, 2021, 07:11:11 pm »
Odd example to get exercised about. Not sure what's so bad about that. A bit obvious maybe but it fit well with the narrative around that game. Seems pretty harmless.

All commentators script and rehearse various things they could say, depending on events and outcome. It makes things easier in the moment.

It doesn't make any sense, for a start.

"Don't ever tell them that nothing is impossible" would have been an incredibly awkward sentence anyway, but he used the word "possible" rather than "impossible." It's genuinely amazing that he took so many pregnant pauses and still managed to fuck up such a hackneyed line. "Don't ever tell them that something is impossible" or just "nothing is impossible" are both very boring, but they're definitely less awkward versions of what he was aiming for.

I know that commentators rehearse things and plan sayings for certain scenarios. That isn't a problem. This fella just always does the weird thing of making a massive effort to sound professional and clever while coming out with things that barely make sense.

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Re: Who is worst Commentator/Pundit? Get your votes in and I'll add them
« Reply #8035 on: June 11, 2021, 08:52:51 pm »
I don’t want to sound like a posh stuffy knob, but are there no standards for broadcasters (especially on the BBC) to try to speak and enunciate words properly as an example for those watching? Especially kids.  Is that not a thing anymore?  I’m just listening to Jenas glottal stopping every word, saying things like “innit” etc. I guess people don’t care about this kind of thing anymore.

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Re: Who is worst Commentator/Pundit? Get your votes in and I'll add them
« Reply #8036 on: June 11, 2021, 09:32:47 pm »
They are poor to say the least and offer little to no tactical or technical advantage over plenty of 'fans', although that might just be more in the case of the legacy kind of fan then the plastic kind.

Being a good painter and decorator with lots of experience does not automatically make you an expert when painting a portrait. You do not need to be a politician to vote at elections or have a valid political opinion.

These people were basically just small pieces of a bigger jigsaw and often don't seem to have much knowledge outside of their own edges.
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Re: Who is worst Commentator/Pundit? Get your votes in and I'll add them
« Reply #8037 on: June 11, 2021, 09:43:27 pm »
It doesn't make any sense, for a start.

"Don't ever tell them that nothing is impossible" would have been an incredibly awkward sentence anyway, but he used the word "possible" rather than "impossible." It's genuinely amazing that he took so many pregnant pauses and still managed to fuck up such a hackneyed line. "Don't ever tell them that something is impossible" or just "nothing is impossible" are both very boring, but they're definitely less awkward versions of what he was aiming for.

I know that commentators rehearse things and plan sayings for certain scenarios. That isn't a problem. This fella just always does the weird thing of making a massive effort to sound professional and clever while coming out with things that barely make sense.
*shugs* It's just a verbal typo. It was a very emotional moment after an incredible and historic performace by the team he supports. Errors like that do happen from time to time, even from neutral commentators. Given the circumstances I'd cut the guy some slack, personally.

To be honest I didn't even notice, probably because I got the sense of what he meant and my brain filled in. It's hardly Steve Macmanaman type bollocks
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Re: Who is worst Commentator/Pundit? Get your votes in and I'll add them
« Reply #8038 on: June 11, 2021, 09:45:53 pm »
Jenas is absolutely awful. I am willing to bet he's getting paid a hefty sum to state the obvious and make shit jokes. Critiquing players that are so far above the level he ever got to as a pro.

He adds absolutely nothing to the game. Get Ally McCoist, loved him as a commentator on Prime. Could tell he just loves football, which makes it even more exciting for the viewer. As opposed to the monotone ramblings of Jenas.
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Re: Who is worst Commentator/Pundit? Get your votes in and I'll add them
« Reply #8039 on: June 11, 2021, 09:55:00 pm »
Jenas is absolutely awful. I am willing to bet he's getting paid a hefty sum to state the obvious and make shit jokes. Critiquing players that are so far above the level he ever got to as a pro.

He adds absolutely nothing to the game. Get Ally McCoist, loved him as a commentator on Prime. Could tell he just loves football, which makes it even more exciting for the viewer. As opposed to the monotone ramblings of Jenas.

And the worst thing is, the BBC are clearly grooming him to take over from Lineker on MOTD. Same as Alex Scott being groomed to take over from Dan Walker on Football Focus. That's why they were both presenting the One Show.