Topic: Members Sales

[Stevo]

They don’t need that much. They can trace the original purchaser just from the seat number, it’d be easy. Really wouldn’t be hard for the club to root out repeat offenders, they wouldn’t need anything more than the ticket. If anything dodgy had gone on you’d expect the ticket holder would have proof of reporting their phone as stolen etc so it wouldn’t be difficult to prove what people were up to.

[gregor]

I know what you mean but obviously that's not that easy, otherwise the club would have done it.
It could also be that the club will need to disclose the information how and where they got the person and sites may not be cooperating with them.  It's silly but there are lots of stupid things they need to show and prove how they obtained them.

I suppose that's what I'm getting at - I'm wondering if anyone knows what those barriers are. The sites wouldn't need to share any data with the club as they would have the person's seat details to hand once they bought the ticket. From a glance over the T&Cs on the website it pretty much seems like the club have covered their own arses on virtually any reason for the withdrawal of a ST, going as far as saying it remains their property and they can essentially take it back any time they like. In my opinion, in the case of a legal challenge by a ST holder that they had paid for a product that they couldn't use, the club should even be prepared to issue a pro rata refund to them before immediately cancelling the ST - that wouldn't cost them anything as they could sell the seat for the rest of the season on a game-by-game basis. I realise that all of this takes time, effort and money but if they are serious about tackling touting it seems like such an obvious fix.

[sharkeyb]

every single sale should be a ballot - will be a fair way of ensuring that people are selected at random rather than having a way to bypass the system.
 you should register for interest like the bulks and be offered a ticket so on and so forth

[Hij]

If the club doesn't want to take a financial hit on this, they should use a few games in the early gameweeks against some less recognised opposition, like Bournemouth, Crystal Palace etc., so they probably pay less to buyout the ticket at the touting website and still have like 15 home games ahead, they can cancel the ST and put that seat back on regular sale on club's website for the remainder of the season, which returns the invested amount + returns the seat to the fans who actually want to go to the game.
Those on ST waiting list might get to their 'promised land' the following season or the seat might return to the bulk salem either option is better than leaving this seat sold at extortionate prices by the touts.

In one.

[anfieldash]

every single sale should be a ballot - will be a fair way of ensuring that people are selected at random rather than having a way to bypass the system.
 you should register for interest like the bulks and be offered a ticket so on and so forth

With the current chaos, absolutely this.

[hoppyLFC]

Definitely loads more hospos for this one, never seen so many!

Because they know they can get away with charging £300 per seat for this game (or more), pure greed!

[Kenny19]

Because they know they can get away with charging £300 per seat for this game (or more), pure greed!

Yep they know exactly what they are doing, cheapest hospo for this one is 690 quid...(Aintree, Hilton etc) Imagine paying that for a seat in the corner of the upper annie.. Think the exact same tickets were "only" 260 for Ajax

Edit: just seen a cheaper one for £546 in the Hilton.. absolute bargain!

[RedBec1993]

Yep they know exactly what they are doing, cheapest hospo for this one is 690 quid...(Aintree, Hilton etc) Imagine paying that for a seat in the corner of the upper annie.. Think the exact same tickets were "only" 260 for Ajax

Edit: just seen a cheaper one for £546 in the Hilton.. absolute bargain!

Definitely pricing out locals. What average scouser has £546 disposable for one game!

[Bonzai25]

every single sale should be a ballot - will be a fair way of ensuring that people are selected at random rather than having a way to bypass the system.
 you should register for interest like the bulks and be offered a ticket so on and so forth

Can see your point mate 100% but for the supporters that have been building credits over the years, be a case of can't please everyone

[swoopy]

every single sale should be a ballot - will be a fair way of ensuring that people are selected at random rather than having a way to bypass the system.
 you should register for interest like the bulks and be offered a ticket so on and so forth

No way. The ballot is awful enough as it is. Truly stop the queue bypasses and have a totally random queue for each sale and I'd be happy.

[sharkeyb]

No way. The ballot is awful enough as it is. Truly stop the queue bypasses and have a totally random queue for each sale and I'd be happy.

they happen at the moment for bulk sales. you should register your intrest and then be put into a pool. if theres say 1000 tickets available then 2000 people should have the chance to buy a ticket.  it should work exactly the same as for finals. any left overs window sale them or something

[NeoAdjuvant]

every single sale should be a ballot - will be a fair way of ensuring that people are selected at random rather than having a way to bypass the system.
 you should register for interest like the bulks and be offered a ticket so on and so forth

Gets mentioned a few times this but I suspect it's actually a lot of work to co-ordinate for the club, instead of just dumping tickets onto the site at random.

Also the ballot is a bit crap imo. At least with the refreshing there's the illusion of being in control of buying your own tickets. The ballot is a joyless experience for the vast majority.

More seats needed.

[walterwhite]

massive drop for everton there I was lucky enough to be online when it did, had a choice all round the ground

[duvva 💅]

Think I missed the major drop, but managed to pick up a pair in AR Upper, that don’t look like ST returns

[walterwhite]

Think I missed the major drop, but managed to pick up a pair in AR Upper, that don’t look like ST returns

I was on they drip fed the AR 227 and 228 ones out then hit a massive drop I picked up member returns in KL

[duvva 💅]

I’ve had a nightmare and looks like I won’t be able to make the game now. I’ve just tried to forward onto someone on my friends & family list but it goes back into the basket screen and won’t let me transfer it. Is this because they don’t have the necessary 4 credits for a Cat A game?

[Barneylfc∗]

I’ve had a nightmare and looks like I won’t be able to make the game now. I’ve just tried to forward onto someone on my friends & family list but it goes back into the basket screen and won’t let me transfer it. Is this because they don’t have the necessary 4 credits for a Cat A game?

The recipient doesn't need any previous credits.

Assume you've accepted the terms and conditions on the 'purchase' screen?

[ScuzzyP]

I’ve had a nightmare and looks like I won’t be able to make the game now. I’ve just tried to forward onto someone on my friends & family list but it goes back into the basket screen and won’t let me transfer it. Is this because they don’t have the necessary 4 credits for a Cat A game?

"Please note that tickets purchased during this sale WILL NOT be available to FORWARD or DISTRIBUTE to other supporters."

Probably explains why duvva.....

[duvva 💅]

The recipient doesn't need any previous credits.

Assume you've accepted the terms and conditions on the 'purchase' screen?

"Please note that tickets purchased during this sale WILL NOT be available to FORWARD or DISTRIBUTE to other supporters."

Probably explains why duvva.....

There’s no t&c’s to tick, so sounds like they’re not available to forward. However the Forward button isn’t usually available if it’s not an option is it?

[walterwhite]

I’ve had a nightmare and looks like I won’t be able to make the game now. I’ve just tried to forward onto someone on my friends & family list but it goes back into the basket screen and won’t let me transfer it. Is this because they don’t have the necessary 4 credits for a Cat A game?

what happens in the basket screen you have to forward from that screen , theres a second dropdown at the bottom of that you select the receiver and proceed, does it go into the basket after this

[duvva 💅]

what happens in the basket screen you have to forward from that screen , theres a second dropdown at the bottom of that you select the receiver and proceed, does it go into the basket after this

When I click on Forward I’m able to choose the person I want to forward to, then it goes to the basket screen again. There’s no further drop down there and the warning at the top says the person isn’t eligible. As Scuzzy mentioned above it does say you can’t forward or distribute in these late sales so it’s probably that, but forward being available makes it a little confusing.

Should also note that the tickets are already bought they’re not in the basket until I try to forward

[duvva 💅]

My friend has just been told that it’s because he hasn’t got the NFC pass downloaded, and that once he’s done that I should be able to forward them - does that sound right?

Looks like this has worked.

Still doesn’t explain why I can forward when I’m the t&c’s it says you can’t, but I’ve given up trying to understand the rules and regs, thank god for this forum otherwise we’d be nowhere half the time

[Philipm20]

My friend has just been told that it’s because he hasn’t got the NFC pass downloaded, and that once he’s done that I should be able to forward them - does that sound right?

Looks like this has worked.

Still doesn’t explain why I can forward when I’m the t&c’s it says you can’t, but I’ve given up trying to understand the rules and regs, thank god for this forum otherwise we’d be nowhere half the time

Yes mate you need the NFC

[walterwhite]

My friend has just been told that it’s because he hasn’t got the NFC pass downloaded, and that once he’s done that I should be able to forward them - does that sound right?

Looks like this has worked.

Still doesn’t explain why I can forward when I’m the t&c’s it says you can’t, but I’ve given up trying to understand the rules and regs, thank god for this forum otherwise we’d be nowhere half the time

Yeah as you found out, if that warning comes up its says 1 of 0 allowed or something means the NFC isn't there to transfer it

[The_Rebel]

any drops for madrid yet? getting a bit sick of refreshing a thousand times a day now

[didopich]

There won't be any drops for Madrid till next week tue-wed.

[Terry Hanks]

When have they tried buying up tickets on tout sites and cancelling them? And why don't they simply keep doing it? It genuinely baffles me, and I've said on here before I don't know if there is a legal loophole stopping them from doing that or something, but the T&Cs seem quite clear on it. A simple Google of "Liverpool v Everton tickets" and the first hit is a site with 869 tickets available for the Derby. Those tickets range from £95 for a severely restricted view in the Lower Anny Road, to £2750 for seats in the Main Stand with 1892 Lounge access. Do the club not want to take the hit financially buy purchasing them? It seems like peanuts when you consider the weekly wages of players - and they could sell the tickets back to people at face value to recover some of the money. As for Season Tickets as someone said above these have already been paid for so the club wouldn't really lose much at all, and could immediately offer them to people at the top of the list in the summer.

I think other clubs have tried, Chelsea was one I think.
It didn't last long no idea why.

[stueya]

any drops for madrid yet? getting a bit sick of refreshing a thousand times a day now

No mate, returns will start after the 15th I’d expect, I’d start looking from Wednesday

[dundeejoe]

Around 20 tickets AU there for the derby in the last hour
Grabbed a pair (members)

[Bonzai25]

Still a few tickets dropping at the minute for those that need & have criteria

[Philipm20]

Around 20 tickets AU there for the derby in the last hour
Grabbed a pair (members)

Got one myself

[kopte4ever]

interesting news article today from BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64497260

Top Premier League clubs each have between 8-12,000 season tickets, memberships and hospitality tickets under the control of touts, claims a leading security expert.
Reg Walker, of Iridium Consultancy, believes it is a "significant, rising" problem that requires "cohesive, co-ordinated action" from authorities.

[didopich]

Still they won't do anything...just media driven stuff   ...nothing ever changes

[1964allezallezallez]

What’s the position on forwarding tickets to someone not on your F&F now they’re removed the QR code.  I can’t go tomorrow is my only option to return it to the club?

[Lee1-6Liv]

When will the Real tickets show up in our wallets? I downloaded the NFC yesterday and the membership in my wallet is blank.

[didopich]

What’s the position on forwarding tickets to someone not on your F&F now they’re removed the QR code.  I can’t go tomorrow is my only option to return it to the club?

You can't do forward to someone not on your list. You can do distribution twice a season if you haven't done that yet. You'll lose the credit if you do distribution just bare that in mind.

[SnowGoon]

When will the Real tickets show up in our wallets? I downloaded the NFC yesterday and the membership in my wallet is blank.

They haven't been pushed out yet, will be after Everton I would imagine. It says not printed in the the tickets menu, just means they haven't pushed them out to the passes.

[SnowGoon]

You can't do forward to someone not on your list. You can do distribution twice a season if you haven't done that yet. You'll lose the credit if you do distribution just bare that in mind.

Distribution is only for 13+.

If you need to forward the ticket, you or the person recieving the ticket can set up another account. You have 2 weeks to add f&f then. You can forward to that account, then forward to another if needed.

The qrs do still work, but only android. If iPhone I think they stopped completely.

[SnowGoon]

Also to add to that, you keep the credit if you distribute the ticket. You lose the credit if you forward it.

[1964allezallezallez]

Thanks, sorry I used the wrong terminology.

I know I’ll lose the credit if I forward it but I can’t go so wouldn’t get the credit anyway.