Topic: Rox's Dog Advice Thread

[CraigDS]

We both work from home but we made sure he was left from the moment we got him, building up from just a few mins to a few hours. Also helps we've both got dog loving parents who are more than happy to have him so he's gone to both of theirs numerous times.

I'd def try and work on leaving her for periods of time even if you're not really having to go anywhere. Crate training really helps with this too. Leave her with entertaining stuff to do like frozen kong toys, etc.

[Filler.]

Where's Rox when you need him?


Bought a border collie pup recently but having a few issues with her. I am not a dog person but 'The Fam' wanted one for years. It would take too long to describe it all but in case there's a border collie expert out there I'd love an IM!

[reddebs]

Where's Rox when you need him?


Bought a border collie pup recently but having a few issues with her. I am not a dog person but 'The Fam' wanted one for years. It would take too long to describe it all but in case there's a border collie expert out there I'd love an IM!

We've had border collies for 25yrs I'm no expert but happy to help if I can mate.

[CraigDS]

Where's Rox when you need him?


Bought a border collie pup recently but having a few issues with her. I am not a dog person but 'The Fam' wanted one for years. It would take too long to describe it all but in case there's a border collie expert out there I'd love an IM!

I mean dogs are dogs and there are plenty in here who can help. Ask away.

I’ve grown up with an Old English Sheepdog, had a Bulldog and Bullmastiff and now have a bulldog pup. Plenty of others are experienced owners too.

[Filler.]

cheers all. May ping an update one day soon 

[hixxstar]

Dog Attack Spray... Repellent.. any advice... (sorry if been asked before)

i have a jack russell 12 yrs old, lately round my area there have been a couple of nasty attacks by pitbull type dogs (owners fault-not the dogs)
one small dog died (terrible) and a large St Bruno nearly had an ear almost torn off 

I take dog out everyday, woodlands etc.. but my missus takes him out at weekends, long walk and mentions the amount of young lads with these kind of dogs (the lads are generally good)
I'd like to get some kind of protection for our dog & her... after looking all over the web the main one to buy is:

First Strike K9 Spray dog attack deterrent spray £16.50   Ebay .. any thoughts, recomendations etc... Thanks.. Hixx .. (I wanted Pepper Spray by Sabre USA - but illegal here)

[Elzar]

My mates dog is ill and potentially in his last few days. Known him since he was a puppy and I feel gutted, so can only imagine what my mate feels like.

[CraigDS]

I can’t say I’ve ever used (or heard of) dog attack spray. I know you can use loud noises sometimes to shock them away (rape alarm) but that’s very much dependant on the other dog as some once in a rage won’t react to much at all.

[reddebs]

I can’t say I’ve ever used (or heard of) dog attack spray. I know you can use loud noises sometimes to shock them away (rape alarm) but that’s very much dependant on the other dog as some once in a rage won’t react to much at all.

I always thought noise makes them worse, that screams etc almost goad them on.

A big stick or better still a cattle prod if they're legal but also maybe think about something like a dash cam type camera like the cops wear to record their bad behaviour.

[CraigDS]

I always thought noise makes them worse, that screams etc almost goad them on.

A big stick or better still a cattle prod if they're legal but also maybe think about something like a dash cam type camera like the cops wear to record their bad behaviour.

I know when my old two were younger and going at it (not in a proper rage though) then loud noises def shocked them enough to make them stop.

Only other experience of a proper dog fight no amount of noise was separating them but didn’t appear to goad them either. They were just so in the zone of fight fight fight that everything else was ignored until it got a boot to the bollocks.

[reddebs]

I know when my old two were younger and going at it (not in a proper rage though) then loud noises def shocked them enough to make them stop.

Only other experience of a proper dog fight no amount of noise was separating them but didn’t appear to goad them either. They were just so in the zone of fight fight fight that everything else was ignored until it got a boot to the bollocks.

Yeah it's not nice seeing them going at it and I've been injured trying to protect my dogs when they've been attacked.

Like you posted maybe one of those alarms might work but one that's really high pitched to deter them before they attack.

[hixxstar]

I can’t say I’ve ever used (or heard of) dog attack spray.

I'd just feel better if my missus has some kinda defense if our old jack russell or she got attacked...

I'm just asking for any advice and/or thoughts.. 


Have a quick look at this video..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMG-_lQB10

The Product:
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/first-strike-k9-dog-deterrent-spray-with-protec-pouch

[Slippers]

The appropriate thread is closed so I'll post this here;next door let their elderly,half blind Jack Russell out at 6 o'clock this morning and went back to bed.It is absolutely pissing down and their front gate was wide open.

We found her whimpering on our doorstep and brought her inside;it'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to notice she's gone.

[bigbonedrawky]

The appropriate thread is closed so I'll post this here;next door let their elderly,half blind Jack Russell out at 6 o'clock this morning and went back to bed.It is absolutely pissing down and their front gate was wide open.

We found her whimpering on our doorstep and brought her inside;it'll be interesting to see how long it takes them to notice she's gone.

Are they likely to notify you that they've noticed their dog is missing ? Had a similar case a few years back the owners were walking around all day looking ,ringing RSPCA visiting the local dog pound etc...It ended in violence.
I'd presume if a neighbour found my dog on the street they'd bring it straight back and they wouldn't try and teach me a lesson...If you haven't done it already take it back now.     

[Slippers]

Are they likely to notify you that they've noticed their dog is missing ? Had a similar case a few years back the owners were walking around all day looking ,ringing RSPCA visiting the local dog pound etc...It ended in violence.
I'd presume if a neighbour found my dog on the street they'd bring it straight back and they wouldn't try and teach me a lesson...If you haven't done it already take it back now.   

They noticed she was missing at about half nine.Turns out they came home pissed last night,the dog ran out to greet them and they accidentally locked her out.

So the poor little thing had been outside all night.


It's not the first time something like this has happened.The worry for me is that they always assume she's with us but there might be a day when we're not home and she's buggered off completely.

[bigbonedrawky]

I'd just feel better if my missus has some kinda defense if our old jack russell or she got attacked...

I'm just asking for any advice and/or thoughts.. 


Have a quick look at this video..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miMG-_lQB10

The Product:
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/first-strike-k9-dog-deterrent-spray-with-protec-pouch

Well my pup got grabbed by the neck and shook today by what looked like a staff/ mastiff cross My dog was off lead playing with a big bulldog and a Spaniel ( In a public park ) when he ran towards the dog, which was on a lead with an old guy walking it.  All the guy was doing was pulling on it's harness and shouting at his dog to get off  which obviously wasn't working so I ran over and punched the dog on it's eye, which luckily for both the dog's did the trick ( Especially his because when it doesn't have a collar on and you cant choke it out plan B involves lethal force ) I told him he should have a muzzle on his dog and he told me to f#ck off and keep my dog on a lead.
While he was walking off  I asked him for his details in case of any vet bills, and all he kept saying was" f*ck off your dog should be on a lead " I told the prick if it happens again I'll kill it so get a f*cking muzzle on it...
That been said  that spray might be a better alternative, because I really, really don't want to go down that road.

Luckily not too much damage done and within a minute my pup was back playfighting with the big bulldog and spaniel like nothing had happed   

[bigbonedrawky]

They noticed she was missing at about half nine.Turns out they came home pissed last night,the dog ran out to greet them and they accidentally locked her out.

So the poor little thing had been outside all night.


It's not the first time something like this has happened.The worry for me is that they always assume she's with us but there might be a day when we're not home and she's buggered off completely.

Fair do's , it sounds like your the first place they'd look. I used to have my mates Neopolitan Mastiff turn up at our's late at night for a "sleep over " with our Jack Russell but I'd always send him a text.  One night he opened the door and just walked in  They'd be f*cking around in the kitchen all night keeping me awake...Pair of tw@s 

[hixxstar]

I told the prick if it happens again I'll kill it (or spark him out) so get a f*cking muzzle on it...

That been said  that spray might be a better alternative, because I really, really don't want to go down that road.

..i'm ok, i can handle myself 
But i just worry about the missus being in a situation alone, if you watched the video link in my post i think the spray option is better than nothing for her.
also as i said before, it's not the dogs fault usually, it's the owner 

[bigbonedrawky]

..i'm ok, i can handle myself 
But i just worry about the missus being in a situation alone, if you watched the video link in my post i think the spray option is better than nothing for her.
also as i said before, it's not the dogs fault usually, it's the owner 

Yeah I watched the vid and after reading some of the comments on youtube it seems quite effective even against pittys, definitely thinking about getting some. ( One comment said do not spray on your genitals    ) ...As for sparking him out ,not sure whether you're on about the dog or owner  but he looked like he's pushing 70, so thats not an option. You're right about it been the owners not the dog fault though, ( I normally generalise about it been young lads too ) but it's probably never been socialised...But when push comes to shove it's a dangerous animal and I aint going to let it kill my dog...     

[Slippers]

Fair do's , it sounds like your the first place they'd look. I used to have my mates Neopolitan Mastiff turn up at our's late at night for a "sleep over " with our Jack Russell but I'd always send him a text.  One night he opened the door and just walked in  They'd be f*cking around in the kitchen all night keeping me awake...Pair of tw@s 

This one spent most of the time hiding under the kitchen table(unless someone opened the fridge),I think our dog's a bit too much for her.

When she first started visiting us we had an elderly spaniel who took no notice of her;the one we have now is only a year old and very 'enthusiastic'.

[Spanish Al]

Well my pup got grabbed by the neck and shook today by what looked like a staff/ mastiff cross My dog was off lead playing with a big bulldog and a Spaniel ( In a public park ) when he ran towards the dog, which was on a lead with an old guy walking it.  All the guy was doing was pulling on it's harness and shouting at his dog to get off  which obviously wasn't working so I ran over and punched the dog on it's eye, which luckily for both the dog's did the trick ( Especially his because when it doesn't have a collar on and you cant choke it out plan B involves lethal force ) I told him he should have a muzzle on his dog and he told me to f#ck off and keep my dog on a lead.
While he was walking off  I asked him for his details in case of any vet bills, and all he kept saying was" f*ck off your dog should be on a lead " I told the prick if it happens again I'll kill it so get a f*cking muzzle on it...
That been said  that spray might be a better alternative, because I really, really don't want to go down that road.

Luckily not too much damage done and within a minute my pup was back playfighting with the big bulldog and spaniel like nothing had happed   

His dog definitely sounds like it needs a muzzle if it’s doing shit like that. But one rule I always stick to with my dogs is if there is a dog nearby on a lead, mine get clipped on too. The trainer in the puppy class we took them both to said if another dog is on it’s lead, there’s a reason for it and if another dog approaches it that isn’t on one, the other dog could feel threatened and could attack. If I ever had a dog that would do what that dog did to yours though, it’s definitely be on a muzzle and getting walked in quieter areas. Thankfully I like to think we’re responsible owners so would never have dogs who’d do that to another dog! Although our jackapoo can be a grumpy little shit at times 

Both of ours only want to play and would never do anything themselves but our cockapoo just wants to say hello to everyone and is soft as shite so it’s to protect him more than anything. Our jackapoo is just obsessed with his ball so he very rarely approaches other dogs when he has that anyway!

Unfortunately a lot of irresponsible owners out there.

[CraigDS]

Yeah I’ve always made sure mine is on the lead if another is. Although 100% if the other dog is potentially aggressive it should have a muzzle, even one of those soft muzzles would be enough to help prevent something happening like that.

[bigbonedrawky]

Got talking to few owners today,...His dog has done it before a few times, seems it's always small dogs and according one old lady (who won't let her dog off incase he turns up) one of them had to be put to sleep and he got cautioned by the Police. Yesterday he saw three dog off lead playing and knowing what he knows about his dog, he carried on walking towards us regardless, when he could of gone another way. Facts are's he's an horrible c*nt who doesn't give a f *ck...   

[CraigDS]

Sounds a massive twat and feel for his dog as it’ll be him who gets the ultimate punishment if he does it again.

[bigbonedrawky]

Sounds a massive twat and feel for his dog as it’ll be him who gets the ultimate punishment if he does it again.

There seems to be a lot of oap's who walk their dogs there in the afternoon and they all seem to know of him. It honestly feels like he's been intimidating them last few years (he's over 6 ft tall and swears at them if they say anything and he never scolds his dog when it lunges at other dogs )
 I'm thinking he's got an axe to grind since his caution and compo for the dog that had to be put to sleep. He needs an ASBO. 
Edit
He's an ex Boxer and the dog is actually a bitch whose just had another litter, apparently he breeds it regularly.

[kavah]

I'm looking after a friend's dog while they are traveling and he's got one bad habit.
He's an 11 year old Wheaten so pretty smart, and he's really chilled out - great with other dogs - walks to heel - all of that.

But when someone rings the doorbell he goes mental, barks really loud and looks to me like he could snap at the visitor for a few seconds when the door is opened - and then he relaxes and - the agitated frenzy last about 30 seconds in total  - it's a bit scary I'm quite used to dogs but he scares me a bit. the rest of the time he is super friendly and relaxed. I'm happy to walk him off the lead as he ambles along next to me and never runs off.

The thing about the doorbell is I live in an apartment (high floor) so people have to ring it t get in, so it's deliveries, mail, friends, my wife if she's forgotten the key, seems like 2 or 3 times a day.

So what would be the best way to train him not to do it? if anyone has any advice, cheers 

[Lfc19ynwa]

I'm looking after a friend's dog while they are traveling and he's got one bad habit.
He's an 11 year old Wheaten so pretty smart, and he's really chilled out - great with other dogs - walks to heel - all of that.

But when someone rings the doorbell he goes mental, barks really loud and looks to me like he could snap at the visitor for a few seconds when the door is opened - and then he relaxes and - the agitated frenzy last about 30 seconds in total  - it's a bit scary I'm quite used to dogs but he scares me a bit. the rest of the time he is super friendly and relaxed. I'm happy to walk him off the lead as he ambles along next to me and never runs off.

The thing about the doorbell is I live in an apartment (high floor) so people have to ring it t get in, so it's deliveries, mail, friends, my wife if she's forgotten the key, seems like 2 or 3 times a day.

So what would be the best way to train him not to do it? if anyone has any advice, cheers 

I think if she’s forgetting her keys 2-3 times a day it would be far easier training the wife to remember to take her keys than it will be to stop the dog barking 😬😬

[redbyrdz]

I'm looking after a friend's dog while they are traveling and he's got one bad habit.
He's an 11 year old Wheaten so pretty smart, and he's really chilled out - great with other dogs - walks to heel - all of that.

But when someone rings the doorbell he goes mental, barks really loud and looks to me like he could snap at the visitor for a few seconds when the door is opened - and then he relaxes and - the agitated frenzy last about 30 seconds in total  - it's a bit scary I'm quite used to dogs but he scares me a bit. the rest of the time he is super friendly and relaxed. I'm happy to walk him off the lead as he ambles along next to me and never runs off.

The thing about the doorbell is I live in an apartment (high floor) so people have to ring it t get in, so it's deliveries, mail, friends, my wife if she's forgotten the key, seems like 2 or 3 times a day.

So what would be the best way to train him not to do it? if anyone has any advice, cheers 

Considering he's 11 and you only have him for 3 weeks...put a sticker over the doorbell button with your phone number and "don't ring doorbell, baby asleep".

But maybe he's just new to doorbells and will chill out once he's got used to it.

[kavah]

I think if she’s forgetting her keys 2-3 times a day it would be far easier training the wife to remember to take her keys than it will be to stop the dog barking 😬😬

Ha - it seems like that sometimes 

Considering he's 11 and you only have him for 3 weeks...put a sticker over the doorbell button with your phone number and "don't ring doorbell, baby asleep".

I live in a high rise - so it's just one keypad for all units - there are 50 odd apartments, so not individual numbers if you know what I mean - so apartment 2 on floor 15 they hit 215 on the keypad - I suppose I could leave a big note down there. In the meantime I've got a bag of treats for him - but feel I'm training him to bark more when the bell rings to get a treat - like Pavlov's dog experiment -    -

[CraigDS]

It’s likely been conditioned into him by now, so would be hard to break.

Personally I’d get their attention with a high value treat (but of chicken or cheese is good for this). Get them in a sit and get someone to ring the doorbell as you keep their attention. If they ignore the bell reward. If they go mental get their attention again, get them in a sit and then reward.

Repeat, repeat, repeat and keep on repeating!!

[kavah]

^ yes good shout, just reading the Dog Whisperer's website and he says the same sort of thing, I reckon I could do it over a day or two. Need to roast a chicken 

[tray fenny]

just got a cavapoochon, 9 weeks old, shes absolutely boss.

[CraigDS]

A what?! 

[redbyrdz]

A what?! 

A sneeze.

[AndyMuller]

just got a cavapoochon, 9 weeks old, shes absolutely boss.

A Campachoochoo?

[Nobby Reserve]

just got a cavapoochon, 9 weeks old, shes absolutely boss.

We've got a Cavachon and she's the sweetest, softest little thing. Yours will have you wrapped round he little paw in no time.

My phone threw out one of those "3 years ago today..." things yesterday, and it was the pics/vids of us on the day we brought her home. So cute!!

[AndyMuller]

Are people still taking their dogs out for walks at the minute? I’m hearing that there is a new strain of Parvo that is killing a lot of dogs lately, I’ve been keeping mine in but she’s getting sad and has loads of energy to burn. She’s had all the vaccines required but apparently this new strain is really bad.

[Claire.]

My cousin has been sending me screenshots of Facebook posts saying that, has anyone had anything from a vet about it? Seems to be most of the city listed in the posts as hot spots. Our dog has still been going out and all the regulars are still taking theirs out.

[AndyMuller]

My cousin has been sending me screenshots of Facebook posts saying that, has anyone had anything from a vet about it? Seems to be most of the city listed in the posts as hot spots. Our dog has still been going out and all the regulars are still taking theirs out.

I haven't had any discussion with a vet personally but my girlfriend spoke to somebody who went to a vets and the vet has two dogs and said she won't even take them out at the minute due to the severity of it. I know that's hearsay but still scary if true.

[Claire.]

This is the last one he sent me:

Parvovirus/Gastro HEM
Hotspots in Liverpool
Keep your Dogs inside!! Whatever this is
it's killing fully vaccinated Dogs. Areas:
•Anfield •Anfield Park •Bootle •Croxteth
•Croxteth Hall Park •Gateacre •Halewood
•Huyton-Kirkdale-Litherland-Wavertree
•Walton •Prescot
These are the areas where we have seen
a rise in cases over the last few days-
week. The virus is all over the city.

We stopped taking him to Croxteth ages ago because there was a warning of Parvo there. Trouble is, can't really keep him totally in cos he's a really active dog and he drives you up the wall until he gets his way!