Topic: Premier League fixtures 16th-18th October

[Morgana]

Also Chelsea's goals seem to be coming from their defenders at the moment, Lakaku hasn't scored in five games. If that continues they will begin to struggle.

Tuchel seemed to have it in for young Tammy Abraham since he walked through the door at Chelsea. That boy and Giroud saved their skin a lot of times before he got there. Then all of a sudden they couldn't get a game, esp. Abraham. My number 3 football fantasy for this year (just behind 1... us winning the PL and CL double and 2... us winning the PL) is to see Chelsea drop out of the CL in the group stages and end up meeting Roma in the final of the Europa League, where Tammy Abraham scores the winner. Fucking hell. The Schadenfreude would be epic.

[MonsLibpool]

Also Chelsea's goals seem to be coming from their defenders at the moment, Lakaku hasn't scored in five games. If that continues they will begin to struggle.

They are overrated. I keep saying it.

Don't get me wrong, they are a good team but they can only get away with putting 9 men behind the ball and Lukaku and Werner chasing their first touch upfront for so long.

[lamonti]

Great second half from Brentford.
How did VAR fail to give Toney a penalty? Russian rubles?
Chelsea not all that, based on that performance.

That call just underlines the "let the phase play out" thing that every one complains about. If you flag immediately on a tight call and get it wrong, you can really distort the game. Why this guy flagged immediately is beyond me... did he just forget the directive? Or did he just not want to have to make a tough call on the foul, so took it out of the equation by flagging?

[BlackandWhitePaul]

For my sins I think I'll watch the Villa v Wolves match.

The last 10 minutes were awesome and what a come back by Wolves.

Poor Villa   

[The G in Gerrard]

Daka kissing the Leicester badge after scoring was amusing.

[Chris~]

They are overrated. I keep saying it.

Don't get me wrong, they are a good team but they can only get away with putting 9 men behind the ball and Lukaku and Werner chasing their first touch upfront for so long.

Thing is despite being so defensive there's no way they keep their good record up playing like they are. They've given up more shots and shots on target than us, Mendy's save percentage is 96% no way that lasts the season. They've got to either be incredibly lucky, find a way of becoming even more solid or much better in attack to sustain a title challenge.

[Wabaloolah]

Hairy hands and his baldie sidekick hate Rafa with a passion. Silly arses

[latortuga]

Thing is despite being so defensive there's no way they keep their good record up playing like they are. They've given up more shots and shots on target than us, Mendy's save percentage is 96% no way that lasts the season. They've got to either be incredibly lucky, find a way of becoming even more solid or much better in attack to sustain a title challenge.

This just sounds like a lot of recency bias following the Brentford game.  They were without half of their starting players including 2 of their back 3 being very inexperienced players.  Jorginho was rested following the UEFA Nations League games, Alonso was out, though Chilwell an adequate replacement.  Definitely very lucky, but I thought they impressed away to Spurs (2nd half) and the Arsenal game they pretty much walked.  Man City made them look bang average, but they dominated possession in the same way against us and some would rightly argue we were lucky to get anything from that game.  I think Brentford deserve a lot more respect than this being about Chelsea.

[ScouserAtHeart]

He has such a punchable face

[So… Howard Philips]

He has such a punchable face

That shirt has more than a hint of the old Everton Mint.

[gerrardisgod]

Everton looking to put the Watford performance to shame here.

[Redsnappa]

West Ham fans singing 'Sign On' 

[Chris~]

This just sounds like a lot of recency bias following the Brentford game.  They were without half of their starting players including 2 of their back 3 being very inexperienced players.  Jorginho was rested following the UEFA Nations League games, Alonso was out, though Chilwell an adequate replacement.  Definitely very lucky, but I thought they impressed away to Spurs (2nd half) and the Arsenal game they pretty much walked.  Man City made them look bang average, but they dominated possession in the same way against us and some would rightly argue we were lucky to get anything from that game.  I think Brentford deserve a lot more respect than this being about Chelsea.

I mean it's just stating some facts based on 8 league games. I'm not really sure how it's about recency bias because of Brentford?

[Dim Glas]

A player booked for diving, well I never.

[latortuga]

He has such a punchable face

Marketing himself to the new owners at Newcastle Utd

[DelTrotter]

Man City made them look bang average, but they dominated possession in the same way against us and some would rightly argue we were lucky to get anything from that game.

Rightly?  We were shit first half but were well worth the point by the end.

[latortuga]

I mean it's just stating some facts based on 8 league games. I'm not really sure how it's about recency bias because of Brentford?

If you think they've been lucky in all their games this season than fair enough.  It just sounded a bit like a reaction to the Brentford game where they were absolutely battered in that last 25 - 30 minutes.  I haven't really seen that from any other game of theirs except City.

[latortuga]

Rightly?  We were shit first half but were well worth the point by the end.

Good point, we were much better 2nd half.  The no Milner 2nd yellow definitely fell our way.

[Chris~]

If you think they've been lucky in all their games this season than fair enough.  It just sounded a bit like a reaction to the Brentford game where they were absolutely battered in that last 25 - 30 minutes.  I haven't really seen that from any other game of theirs except City.

I didn't day they'd been lucky in all their games, just that their good run won't last to mount a title challenge unless they improve in attack and/or defence or they get lucky. You'd need to be lucky for example to only concede about 15 goals (current pace) in a season the way they're playing. City have conceded the same amount but are giving up way, way less shots and good chances than Chelsea. We're playing like we could score 100+. Without us and City then it'd be a different argument about putting up a title challenege

[Funky_Gibbons]

If you think they've been lucky in all their games this season than fair enough.  It just sounded a bit like a reaction to the Brentford game where they were absolutely battered in that last 25 - 30 minutes.  I haven't really seen that from any other game of theirs except City.

We battered them second half too, 14 shots to 2.

That’s 3 games out of 8.

[JackWard33]

This just sounds like a lot of recency bias following the Brentford game.  They were without half of their starting players including 2 of their back 3 being very inexperienced players.  Jorginho was rested following the UEFA Nations League games, Alonso was out, though Chilwell an adequate replacement.  Definitely very lucky, but I thought they impressed away to Spurs (2nd half) and the Arsenal game they pretty much walked.  Man City made them look bang average, but they dominated possession in the same way against us and some would rightly argue we were lucky to get anything from that game.  I think Brentford deserve a lot more respect than this being about Chelsea.

fwiw there’s nothing in Chelseas underlying numbers to suggest they’ll be title challengers

[Jm55]

Any streams for the blueshite match? Fancy a laugh on a Sunday afternoon.

[gerrardisgod]

Iwobi is absolutely pitiful

[Dim Glas]

Quite the miss from Iwobi there.

Everton should be ahead.

[Hazell]

Iwobi is absolutely pitiful

Can't believe Brands paid £30m for him. Must be their worst signing in recent years and he's up against pretty stiff competition.

[Redsnappa]

Any streams for the blueshite match? Fancy a laugh on a Sunday afternoon.

https://elixx.xyz/ajax.html?sport=soccer

Working OK at the mo.

[jillcwhomever]

That looked like a huge dive.

[Jm55]

https://elixx.xyz/ajax.html?sport=soccer

Working OK at the mo.

Thanks mate.

[Gerry Attrick]

Can't believe Brands paid £30m for him. Must be their worst signing in recent years and he's up against pretty stiff competition.

I don't think he's even in the top 3, and that says everything. Walcott, Tosun and Rodriguez were even worse.

[jillcwhomever]

fwiw there’s nothing in Chelseas underlying numbers to suggest they’ll be title challengers

Yes, really don't get the people who are building them up. If anything their stats should be worrying them with so many of their recent goals coming from defenders rather than their attacking players. It's going to come apart at sometime.

[Dim Glas]

Can't believe Brands paid £30m for him. Must be their worst signing in recent years and he's up against pretty stiff competition.

I’m sure Arsenal couldn't believe it either, but considering all the crap transfers they have made too in the same time frame, it’s now like they can crow about it 

Defo a lot of competition for the worst signing trophy. Kean and Mina another 2 of very recent seasons.

[Gili Gulu]

I’m sure Arsenal couldn't believe it either, but considering all the crap transfers they have made too in the same time frame, it’s now like they can crow about it 

Defo a lot of competition for the worst signing trophy. Kean and Mina another 2 of very recent seasons.

I don't know how much Everton paid for Michael Keane, but I know it was far too much

[Hazell]

I don't think he's even in the top 3, and that says everything. Walcott, Tosun and Rodriguez were even worse.

I’m sure Arsenal couldn't believe it either, but considering all the crap transfers they have made too in the same time frame, it’s now like they can crow about it 

Defo a lot of competition for the worst signing trophy. Kean and Mina another 2 of very recent seasons.

I don't know how much Everton paid for Michael Keane, but I know it was far too much

I stand corrected

[Funky_Gibbons]

Pickford looks like a stick of rock.

[MH41]

Silly rule, but if a touch from a defender starts another phase, why does a touch from the keeper not do so likewise?
West ham goal disallowed.

[John C]

WHU are caning these here, ffs score.

[jillcwhomever]

WHU are caning these here, ffs score.

Their final shots have been appalling though. It's amazing how many free kicks Townsend manages to get as well off this ref.

[Peabee]

Is this how turgid football is for other fans? We need to appreciate Klopp; I forget sometimes how boring football can be until I watch other games. 

[FlashingBlade]

Just got back in after popping out for some urgent business ( get some beers)....the silence at Goodison and low level booing at HT suggests  I aint missed much

[kavah]

Iwobi is absolutely pitiful

Yea I feel a bit sorry for him, he should retrain as a plumber or something.