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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6760 on: May 17, 2010, 10:04:48 pm »
Timbo will probably swerve it.. I reckon 'Long" Juan Loco will have talked him outta watching the finale by then.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6761 on: May 17, 2010, 11:00:50 pm »
How come they're showing the finale on Sunday? Sorry if it's been asked already but I can't be bothered to read through all of these posts lol.

ABC are making it an event. Devoting the whole evening to it - 2 hours of cast specials before - and Lost people on chat shows after. Probably easier for the network to clear a Sunday night than a Tuesday.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6762 on: May 18, 2010, 12:07:13 am »
There's an episode tomorrow, then the rest is on Sunday. It's on a week later in the UK, Timbo must be gutted.

That is a bit of killer. Looks like it's the bunker for a week.

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Seriously wouldn't you think Sky would get their finger out. Twats. Obviously they've got no cutting edge with ABC in the states.

Bit like RIH's fuckin razor.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6763 on: May 18, 2010, 01:47:46 am »
This is probably the best show I've seen on telly. Don't think there will ever be another programme that will have so many people gripped for 6 years (Bar Corrie and shit). Going to be gutted when its all over.
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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6764 on: May 18, 2010, 02:10:44 am »
This is probably the best show I've seen on telly. Don't think there will ever be another programme that will have so many people gripped for 6 years (Bar Corrie and shit). Going to be gutted when its all over.

That should be the last post in this thread.   Even with whatever happens in the episodes to come, your post said it all, mate.
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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6765 on: May 18, 2010, 11:19:18 am »
That should be the last post in this thread .   

Sorry dave lad i'd already been drafting a reply to poor old seebab

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6766 on: May 18, 2010, 11:25:51 am »
Just watched the last episode. I'm trying to agree with what you're saying Timbo but I just can't. Rubbish episode. The first two seasons were brilliant viewing and series 3 and 4 were alright. What bothers me about the writers isn't the fact that they 'made up stuff' as they went along- it's that they're so busy reading and doing what the viewers tell them to do.

I know you have to satisfy the viewers but doing what they say or trying to prove the viewers wrong is just stupid. It reminds me of that episode when the writers decided to put older Walt in a 30 second scene talking to Locke and that was it- just because everyone was complaining that Walt wasn't in the show. Instead of succumbing to the viewers' impatience they could have perhaps created a good storyline or explanation regarding Walt, his specialness and his 'ghosts' later on in the series.

The show for me was so much better when the answers came along slowly and were explained well, but everyone complained about how there weren't any answers. This didn't bother me at all. I could have waited. Instead the writers stuffed all the answers hastily in a few episodes with crap explanations.

One of the biggest let downs in this show for me was the explanations for visions like Christia and Walt- both charactes I liked a lot and were very mysterious. I can't even remember the last time Christian appeared and MIB just says he wasd Christian all along.  Really disappointing.


Don't worry Seeb, Brucie'll be touring again soon I'm sure. He's got all the answers as we well know.

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Seriously, though, I can sense your real disappointment and frustration. And I do feel a tinge of sympathy for the likes of yourself. And it seems - judging by all the message boards - as if you're far from alone if not actually in the majority of folks who’ve followed the show.

The thing is it's not that I don't see the sort of thing that is frustrating you all - the realisation that loads of your questions are likely not going to be answered, the final series introduction of major players that seems more gratuitous than planned and the fact , I guess, that the plot appears to have more inconsistencies and have reached more dead ends than Liverpool's attack this season.

From my own viewpoint whilst I do see most of the things that irk so many people I have to say such things simply don't detract from my own enjoyment. The Across the Sea episode just gone forinstance.  Whilst most seemed to think it was rubbish I just absolutely loved every second of it. Now I can't adequately explain such disparity of views but clearly a large part of it has to stem from what each watcher was expecting to derive from it and how little or far those expectations were met.

Many were pissed off since they felt it never delivered one iota of what they craved. Me? Well I was just captivated. The biblical/mythical feel. The Old Testament style slayings. The initial washing ashore of Claudia  against the island backdrop that hadn't changed from what we see today. The main protaganist making that point subtly but surely in her 2500 year old Roman garb. The simplicity of the plot seemed to jar with most who dissed it as weak and vacuous but for me it worked beautifully. I loved the whole feel and atmosphere of it. If it had tried to go any further for me it would have cluttered it and spoilt what I felt was something really special. Sure the dialogue may not have vied for literary awards but it felt perfectly congruous to me with what it was intended to convey. Certainly in filling in gaps in our understanding of the basic concepts at play whilst as ever teasing us with what it didn’t answer.   

Obviously we all see things through differing lenses with our different sensibilities but for me it worked magically as the episode when we all needed to stop and smell the roses and see just how pivotal the island figures in the creators mindset. In the underpinning of the story they’ve striven to tell.  That for me was the main thrust of the episode – the permanence of the island and its place in the storyline.

I also have similar ambivalence to earlier gaffes/plot shortcomings . The point you make about the writers'/series early pre-occupation with Walt followed by his airbrushing out without so much as a bye your leave or nod and a wink. Then the frequent appearances of Christian Shepherd with only that scant admission from Flocke in explanation.. Or the abrupt cheerio from Eko and his brudder. Or the switching from science to myth to magic and back to science.

Okay so I can’t honestly say I wouldn’t want them to smooth out a few wrinkles like these. But in overall terms I also can’t say any of it really jars that much with me. I really do see them as mere blips set against the huge ambition and scope of the entire thing. Sure they’ve fucked things up. But I for one am certainly not counting up any of the debt that others seem to feel they’re rightfully due payback on.

Thing is I do just honestly see the thing for what I think it is. That is a TV rollercoaster of complete and utter nonsense and bilge but the most enjoyable nonsense and bilge it's ever been my privilege to be entertained by on the telly.  And a real attempt by television entertainment at true art to boot. I see the entire thing as an entity.   Not as something to be graded – or more likely in recent times torn to shreds - episode by episode. The episodes for me are merely parts of a whole. And it’s the whole which I absolutely love.  I got in for the ride and the ride has been amazing, flat spots, warts and all.

And moving onto the upcoming finale, crucially not even for one tiny minute do I believe the writer's can supply us with one panacea explanation or better still a glut of them to sate our cravings to know the answers to every significant loose end they've laid down and teased us with. Surely to god only a gullible fool would think they ever could given the burst mattress nature of what we’ve been watching these past six years.

But as far as I'm concerned that doesn't mean the creators have cheated anybody. Not in the slightest  minutest  nano way. For the simple fact is that these guys have dished up the most fabulous swathe of exciting, probing, thoughtful, dramatic, sad, funny and utterly ridiculous and lovable television we could ever hope to be privileged to see featuring some of the best characters TV has thrown up in one series.  A series that if it is not already will in time surely be ranked up there with the very best as long as television continues to provide our staple entertainment diet - and we all know the sort of Sopranos, Deadwood, Wire levels we're talking about by the term ‘best’.

So I repeat. Fuck off all you nerdy, nitpicking whining geeky twats.  And just be fuckin grateful you didn’t have to put up with Dixon of Dock Green like me

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6767 on: May 18, 2010, 12:35:36 pm »
Are you one of the writers? You seem to be taking all the criticism to heart.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6768 on: May 18, 2010, 02:01:55 pm »
Are you one of the writers? You seem to be taking all the criticism to heart.

yeah.

Wanna know how it ends?

Waaaagh

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6769 on: May 18, 2010, 03:18:10 pm »
Good post as always Timbo. I guess you're right about looking at it as a whole. Describing the whole show as good or bad after every episode is a bit silly and we should look at it as a whole- similarly to when we watch Liverpool games. It's a bit of a knee jerk, isn't it? Saying how amazing we are after we beat the likes of Bolton 5-0 (just an example) and then criticising Lucas, Ngog and Rafa after a goalless draw against Stoke and saying how half of the squad should be sold.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6770 on: May 18, 2010, 05:02:46 pm »
So I repeat. Fuck off all you nerdy, nitpicking whining geeky twats. 

I dunno mate, I wouldn't be throwing that about when you're willing to write your way through War and Peace to defend the television equivilent to free-form jazz (no structure, plenty of improvisation ;)). Still, we've got a new one tonight, so maybe they'll pull it back around like they're capable of.

However it's more likely that short-arsed dick will decide that the smoke monster is actually gas coming from Hurley, and that all of this was a dream of Jack's, where he's trapped in a future where "humans aren't born, they're grown".

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6771 on: May 18, 2010, 05:28:42 pm »
Original source of the Smoke Monster captured on film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1FxI3aVBOs

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6772 on: May 18, 2010, 05:52:35 pm »
yeah.

Wanna know how it ends?

Waaaagh

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Well if you are one of the writers i doubt you know any better than me.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6773 on: May 18, 2010, 08:43:58 pm »
I dunno mate, I wouldn't be throwing that about when you're willing to write your way through War and Peace to defend the television equivilent to free-form jazz (no structure, plenty of improvisation ;)). Still, we've got a new one tonight, so maybe they'll pull it back around like they're capable of.

However it's more likely that short-arsed dick will decide that the smoke monster is actually gas coming from Hurley, and that all of this was a dream of Jack's, where he's trapped in a future where "humans aren't born, they're grown".

Crossing fingers for it all the same.

Oh dear.

You should have quit while you were ahead loco

Pity that.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6774 on: May 18, 2010, 08:45:54 pm »
Well if you are one of the writers i doubt you know any better than me.

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I know fuck all mate. I'd have thought that much was obvious by now.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6775 on: May 18, 2010, 08:59:14 pm »
Bet tonight's episode will just be a huge be a setup for the finale. Knowing them, they'll give us an insane cliffhanger then we have to wait till Sunday to see it.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6776 on: May 18, 2010, 09:01:59 pm »
widmore farraday desmond answers please you bastards.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6777 on: May 18, 2010, 11:02:19 pm »
Found out how it ends. If you don't want to know, DON'T read this:

Spoiler
MIB is at the top of an abandoned skyscraper and shoots himself in the head after talking to Christian. Helena Bonham-Carter then finds him and checks to see if he's okay whilst the buildings around him start exploding. A picture of a penis then flashes up on the screen momentarily before fading to black.
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« Reply #6778 on: May 18, 2010, 11:03:13 pm »
You should have quit while you were ahead

There's a message in that ;)
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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6779 on: May 18, 2010, 11:05:30 pm »
Found out how it ends. If you don't want to know, DON'T read this:

Spoiler
MIB is at the top of an abandoned skyscraper and shoots himself in the head after talking to Christian. Helena Bonham-Carter then finds him and checks to see if he's okay whilst the buildings around him start exploding. A picture of a penis then flashes up on the screen momentarily before fading to black.
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Prick! I actually debated wether to read that, I couldn't resist in the end ;D
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« Reply #6780 on: May 19, 2010, 12:03:57 am »
Thats me outta this thread.   Haven't watched for 6 yrs for some blert to put the ending on here.

Be back after the finale.
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« Reply #6781 on: May 19, 2010, 12:15:54 am »
So is it finished yet. Or is that next week
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« Reply #6782 on: May 19, 2010, 12:53:57 am »
WOW I accidently hovered over the spoiler tag but LUCKILY read nothing. Fuck, I'm not coming back here until Monday after the finale!!!

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« Reply #6783 on: May 19, 2010, 01:03:44 am »
Found out how it ends. If you don't want to know, DON'T read this:

Spoiler
MIB is at the top of an abandoned skyscraper and shoots himself in the head after talking to Christian. Helena Bonham-Carter then finds him and checks to see if he's okay whilst the buildings around him start exploding. A picture of a penis then flashes up on the screen momentarily before fading to black.
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Found out how it ends. If you don't want to know, DON'T read this:

Spoiler
MIB is at the top of an abandoned skyscraper and shoots himself in the head after talking to Christian. Helena Bonham-Carter then finds him and checks to see if he's okay whilst the buildings around him start exploding. A picture of a penis then flashes up on the screen momentarily before fading to black.
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« Reply #6784 on: May 19, 2010, 01:05:58 am »
Found out how it ends. If you don't want to know, DON'T read this:



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« Reply #6785 on: May 19, 2010, 05:08:47 am »
Just watched the latest episode (NO SPOILERS OF THE FINALE!)

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Good episode I thought. I wonder what happened to Richard after he taken by the monster. Everything is all clicking into place. Very surprised that Widmore died! Out of nowhere lol. I'm actually very interested in what will happen in the flash sidways now. And no surprise Jack took the task of being the protector lol
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« Reply #6786 on: May 19, 2010, 06:03:58 am »



FML FML FML FML FML FML FML FML
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« Reply #6787 on: May 19, 2010, 08:20:42 am »
Thats me outta this thread.   Haven't watched for 6 yrs for some blert to put the ending on here.

Phew.  Close shave there Dave

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« Reply #6788 on: May 19, 2010, 09:36:52 am »
Loved it.

Some brilliant lines from Miles and Ben, but the best has to be:

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Can I get you a glass of Lemonade?

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« Reply #6789 on: May 19, 2010, 10:07:22 am »
Wow...
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Richard went out like a bitch
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« Reply #6790 on: May 19, 2010, 11:42:57 am »
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If Richard turns out to be dead then that was the wankest thing I have ever seen in my life
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« Reply #6791 on: May 19, 2010, 11:53:45 am »
Roll on Sunday.

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« Reply #6792 on: May 19, 2010, 12:13:50 pm »
Am I alone in thinking this season is getting progressively less interesting with each episode? I was gripped at the start but now I'm just wanting it over and done with so I can move on with my life ;)

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« Reply #6793 on: May 19, 2010, 12:15:25 pm »
Am I alone in thinking this season is getting progressively less interesting with each episode? I was gripped at the start but now I'm just wanting it over and done with so I can move on with my life ;)

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« Reply #6794 on: May 19, 2010, 12:30:41 pm »
Anyone have a link for the one from last night? The usual site I use is saying "Megavideo has removed this video due to infringement", classic.

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« Reply #6796 on: May 19, 2010, 01:17:59 pm »
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If Richard turns out to be dead then that was the wankest thing I have ever seen in my life
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No way is he dead. I'm pretty sure he will turn up in the finale.

So everyone is going to be at this concert, but Sawyer isn't? Is that going to be important somehow? Maybe that will mess things up and he will become the new MIB, thats a complete random guess which is probably 100% wrong but would be awesome. It will be interesting to see who Jack's kid's mother is as well.
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« Reply #6797 on: May 19, 2010, 01:22:37 pm »
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No way is he dead. I'm pretty sure he will turn up in the finale.

So everyone is going to be at this concert, but Sawyer isn't? Is that going to be important somehow? Maybe that will mess things up and he will become the new MIB, thats a complete random guess which is probably 100% wrong but would be awesome. It will be interesting to see who Jack's kid's mother is as well.
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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6798 on: May 19, 2010, 01:32:29 pm »
Aaaah, so that's what they died for.

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Re: LOST - Channel 4 *warning spoilers of future episodes*
« Reply #6799 on: May 19, 2010, 01:32:34 pm »
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No way is he dead. I'm pretty sure he will turn up in the finale.

So everyone is going to be at this concert, but Sawyer isn't? Is that going to be important somehow? Maybe that will mess things up and he will become the new MIB, thats a complete random guess which is probably 100% wrong but would be awesome. It will be interesting to see who Jack's kid's mother is as well.
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The concert being held in the Museum, and Sawyer goes with Miles?

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