Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[Zee_26]

Origi there thinking if he left the stove on.

[newterp]

Origi there thinking if he left the stove on.

he actually only showed up to get the new gear. it's true.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

FFS he can't even stand up

[BarryCrocker]

Genuflecting?

[stockdam]

So I take it that Thiago will be available to play tomorrow.

[No666]

Five subs so you'd think we'll see some of them sharing the 90 minutes.

[keyop]

Don't want to jinx anything of course, but it's hard not to get excited after what has been an almost perfectly timed winter break.

In Jurgen's pre-Cardiff presser he said Thiago is training fine (after a chest infection), Origi is back in full training (dissertation finally submitted?), and Naby has come back full of energy.

That is everyone fit. I repeat - that is everyone fit. For the first time in what seems like forever.

Joel and Virgil having no setbacks so far is also a massive (and understated) achievement for them and the club, with Konate and Joe ready to rotate whenever they need a rest. It's not ideal to still be without Mo and Sadio, but its brilliant for them and their confidence, and both should come back in good spirits and rhythm regardless of who wins. They are both made of steel, and having them back will be a massive boost for everyone.

If you were aiming to win 4 competitions, I couldn't imagine a better position to be in - most players have had a much needed break, we've signed one of the most exciting players in Europe, we have Harvey to come back into the side, Curtis pushing for a midfield place, and players like Ox and Naby brimming with confidence. Plus a cup final and CL football just around the corner.

Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a great ride.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Diogo Jota and Roberto Firmino will again be absent against Leeds as they recover from ankle and muscle injuries respectively. The strikers have not been ruled out of Sunday’s League Cup final against Chelsea but Klopp cautioned: “They are not on the pitch for training and that is not a good sign.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/22/jurgen-klopp-warns-liverpool-not-to-get-soft-in-their-title-pursuit

[Elzar]

Sticking my post in here too, hopefully someone can expand on it when more information comes out this week.

Was the Matip sub tactical and any news on Thiago?

Thiago had a hamstring injury in the warm up, but the seriousness hasn't been said yet.

Matip there was no news, I'm guessing tactical/prevent him playing too much as he's played a lot recently for someone that can pick up injuries.

Sky seemed determined Diaz had a hamstring injury too, he fell funny at one point and Neville said it straight away, but it looked more impact as he hit the ground that was causing him trouble. Didn't go off straight away either, so not sure where they got that from.

[thaddeus]

Diaz's comments after the game ("I'm dead [knackered]") suggest he came off to freshen things up rather than due to an injury.  Mo was the only one of the front three to play the full 120, he's a remarkable athlete and also our first choice penalty taker.

I think the Matip substitution was for the same reasons, especially as Chelsea had brought on two fresh strikers.  He didn't seem to be at all restricted in his movements during the celebrations.

I assume we're training today so it will be telling if Diaz and Matip take part.

[buttersstotch]

Diaz looked knackered well before we came off, don't think we has injured. And I'm sure the Konate transfer was tactical to deal with the pace of Werner. Klopp usually plays Konate when we're dealing with pace in behind.

Think we have a Klopp presser today? So will be interesting to hear any updates, I'm sure a couple of players have knocks etc. but can't see anyone who played 120 minutes being in the squad for the FA Cup game apart from Kelleher.

[thaddeus]

Jurgen Klopp gave an update on the fitness of Thiago, who was left in tears when a hamstring injury suffered in the warm-up at Wembley forced him to withdraw shortly before kick-off.

The Reds boss thinks he will be sidelined for about a week, though he could return for the Champions League last-16 second leg against Inter Milan on 8 March.

Happy days!  A hamstring injury only resulting in potentially a week out is the best possible outcome.

[farawayred]

Happy days!  A hamstring injury only resulting in potentially a week out is the best possible outcome.

But then again, one week in Klopp's calendar may be a lot longer in ours... The poor guy is hopelessly optimistic sometimes...

[JasonF]

But then again, one week in Klopp's calendar may be a lot longer in ours... The poor guy is hopelessly optimistic sometimes...

"Weekend not sure, maybe Milan, after that definitely."

Sounds fairly clear cut to me. I guess Brighton or Inter would be more on the optimistic side but it must just be a mild one like he felt a tight hamstring muscle in the warm up.

[SamLad]

"Weekend not sure, maybe Milan, after that definitely."

Sounds fairly clear cut to me. I guess Brighton or Inter would be more on the optimistic side but it must just be a mild one like he felt a tight hamstring muscle in the warm up.

I guess it depends on how you interpret "after that".   could mean anything. 

[CanuckYNWA]

Id say hes prolly over the hamstring, no to westham since he hasnt trained. Prolly on the bench for Inter and make sub appearance for some minutes and prolly sub again against Brighton with the intention to start vs Arsenal

[redgriffin73]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/lfc-fitness-update-klopp-thiago-matip-keita-firmino-and-jones

Thiago Alcantara and Joel Matip will miss Liverpool's Premier League encounter with West Ham United, Jürgen Klopp confirmed.

Thiago continues to be sidelined with the hamstring issue he sustained during the warm-up for the League Cup final, while Matip is suffering from illness.

Curtis Jones and Naby Keita will be assessed ahead of Saturday's 5.30pm GMT kick-off at Anfield.

Roberto Firmino, meanwhile, is closing in on a return to full training after his muscle injury.

Klopp told a press conference: “So, you’re right, strength in depth is really important, no doubt about that, especially when you have to play different competitions. But we have players who are not available.

“I'm pretty sure that nobody will tell me differently because yesterday he didn't train, Thiago will not be available for tomorrow.

“Curtis is not bad but if it is good enough to go again tomorrow, I don't know.

“Joel Matip is ill – no COVID, nowadays you can be ill in different ways as well – so he will not be available.

“So all of a sudden, we played a tough game midweek, all these kind of things, so we still wait a little bit for who is how in which moment. So from eight midfielders – Naby we don’t know – to four midfielders in a week, that can happen easily.

“So it's not nothing as well that we, like, enjoy, ‘Oh my God, we have the full choice.' You have the full choice one day and then the other days you don't have it.

“So we have to make sure that we stay as fit as possible because we have a lot of games to play in these upcoming months.”

He added: “Naby was not in the squad on Wednesday. Bobby is looking good but not good enough for the weekend. I think the plan is that he trains on Sunday, first time. That sounds then doable for Tuesday.”

[SamLad]

So from eight midfielders – Naby we don’t know – to four midfielders in a week, that can happen easily.

to us, it can !!

[Schmarn]

4 midfielders out? I count Thiago, Naby and Curtis out with Fab, Hendo, Elliott, Ox and Millie fit. Unless there’s another undisclosed injury.

At least City have lost Dias for 4-6 weeks which means more Ake.

[Chakan]

Naby injured? Well I never.

[Knight]

Naby injured? Well I never.

Steady. Could be a minor knock. We’ll see if he makes the squad tomorrow or Tuesday.

[Angelius]

From the press conference, I'm confused if Naby is fit for Saturday or not. Thiago, Matip and Firmino seemed a more definite no.

[12Kings]

From the press conference, I'm confused if Naby is fit for Saturday or not. Thiago, Matip and Firmino seemed a more definite no.

Nah naby can’t be injured again!!!!! Don’t believe this one, it’s a Trojan horse!

[Persephone]

Curtis Jones has been having a bit of a 'mare with his injuries of late.

[CanuckYNWA]

From the press conference, I'm confused if Naby is fit for Saturday or not. Thiago, Matip and Firmino seemed a more definite no.

The positives are those 3 are all close to being back. Matip just ilness and Both Firmino and Thiago are possibility for Inter

Id gander that Naby and Jones are nothing serious but would suck to be down 3 midfielders

Really hope we dont see a Milner/Hendo 8s duo tomorrow.

[ThoroughlyMediocre]

The positives are those 3 are all close to being back. Matip just ilness and Both Firmino and Thiago are possibility for Inter

Id gander that Naby and Jones are nothing serious but would suck to be down 3 midfielders

Really hope we dont see a Milner/Hendo 8s duo tomorrow.

I think Milner playing the full 90 Wednesday makes that unlikely, agree in not wanting to see that.

Agree on the optimism, doesn't sound like anything is long-term at this time. Always possible Konate would have played anyways, given Antonio's physicality.

[CanuckYNWA]

Well looks like I was right both Naby and Jones were fine. Thiago and Firmino back soon and id suspect Matip too

Looks like we have a fully fit squad again going into the international break. If we can keep it like that after the international break that would be huge

[redgriffin73]

Nothing wrong with Kostas I assume? He's usually on the bench if he's not playing but haven't heard anything other than us having a boss squad to pick from?

[JasonF]

Nothing wrong with Kostas I assume? He's usually on the bench if he's not playing but haven't heard anything other than us having a boss squad to pick from?

Klopp mentioned him favourably yesterday in the post match press conference (I think) when talking about the depth of the squad and how we wouldn't have been able to beat West Ham if we'd not made changes midweek. I think if he'd been injured he'd have probably mentioned it then. He might be planning on starting him vs Inter.

[redgriffin73]

Klopp mentioned him favourably yesterday in the post match press conference (I think) when talking about the depth of the squad and how we wouldn't have been able to beat West Ham if we'd not made changes midweek. I think if he'd been injured he'd have probably mentioned it then. He might be planning on starting him vs Inter.

Cheers, missed the press conference and hadn't seen or heard anything mentioned.

[Ghost Town]

He's just having a kip

[redgriffin73]

He's just having a kip

[SamLad]

He's just having a kip

thank God for that.  about bloody time.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Big boost. Klopp says Matip, Thiago and Firmino all trained fully yesterday.
"We'll have to see how they react."

[SamLad]

according to this both Millie and Tsimi might have the virus .... I'd seen that Millie was "ill" but nowt about Tsimi



https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

[RedG13]

according to this both Millie and Tsimi might have the virus .... I'd seen that Millie was "ill" but nowt about Tsimi



https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

That why they missed the Arsenal game. Klopp said so in his presser before irc that they where ill. All the players are Vaccinated, not really concerned they should be able to return quickly if it Covid

[SamLad]

That why they missed the Arsenal game. Klopp said so in his presser before irc that they where ill.

ah, missed that.  thanks RedG

[redgriffin73]

Not sure Kostas had Covid again, he's spent the week having new arm tattoos done! He's posted about the game today though so I'm guessing he's playing some part.

[thaddeus]

I came online just to see how many of our players were crocked by the weekend internationals.  Seemingly none so happy days.

One more round of fixtures to survive.

[Gus 1855]

I came online just to see how many of our players were crocked by the weekend internationals.  Seemingly none so happy days.

One more round of fixtures to survive.

Have you not heard of mockers! For the love of everything that’s holy!