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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #120 on: November 18, 2021, 11:44:47 am »
Welsh fans were thrilled with Neco's performances this break but many were saying he should move to get regular playing time, or at least be loaned, which ignores the salient fact that he would not have reached the level that so impressed without the coaching - and crucially, the patience - of Klopp.

I think that unless he is trusted to have a role and involvement in the squad similar to Tsimikas on the other flank, then it will be better for all parties for him to move on within a couple of years. At the moment, and we've seen it this season, Milner is still the second choice RB for big games, that can't be enough for a talented lad who's a full international for a side that might go to the world cup.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #121 on: November 18, 2021, 11:59:07 am »
I think that unless he is trusted to have a role and involvement in the squad similar to Tsimikas on the other flank, then it will be better for all parties for him to move on within a couple of years. At the moment, and we've seen it this season, Milner is still the second choice RB for big games, that can't be enough for a talented lad who's a full international for a side that might go to the world cup.

He was ill earlier in the season (think it was covid related), and injured I think, but he was out for a bit regardless, that may have played a part in him not getting a start.

I don't want to see him loaned out in January, his form is good, he’s growing as a player, he can be an very useful squad option. 

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #122 on: November 18, 2021, 12:18:40 pm »
He was ill earlier in the season (think it was covid related), and injured I think, but he was out for a bit regardless, that may have played a part in him not getting a start.

I don't want to see him loaned out in January, his form is good, he’s growing as a player, he can be an very useful squad option.

We'll need all the wide options we can get when Salah and  Mane are away.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #123 on: November 20, 2021, 07:26:09 pm »
I hope Jota is OK
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #124 on: November 21, 2021, 07:15:27 pm »
Any news on Bobby, Milner and Curtis? Hope at least one of them could make it back next weekend.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #125 on: November 21, 2021, 07:22:01 pm »
Any news on Bobby, Milner and Curtis? Hope at least one of them could make it back next weekend.
Keita and Milner likely for midweek.

Curtis is weeks away.  Bobby a couple of weeks maybe?
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #126 on: November 21, 2021, 08:57:53 pm »
Keita and Milner likely for midweek.

Curtis is weeks away.  Bobby a couple of weeks maybe?
We should focus on the weekend and give lads like Tyler Morton their debut. Do you think Keita and Milner would be ready for a full game, or just 30-60 min? Mix of youth and experience is good, especially when the latter two get some game time.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2021, 09:10:04 pm »
Presuming Jota had no issue from that scary collision with Ramsdale?

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #128 on: November 21, 2021, 09:14:30 pm »
Presuming Jota had no issue from that scary collision with Ramsdale?

Klopp said after the game they'll have to see how it settles down as was a heavy knock.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2021, 06:53:03 pm »
right now we have 9 first-teamers injured

City have 5 [ffs they include MENDY !! plus Delap who's had ONE PL appearance]

Chelsea have 4


https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #130 on: November 22, 2021, 07:02:18 pm »
right now we have 9 first-teamers injured

City have 5 [ffs they include MENDY !! plus Delap who's had ONE PL appearance]

Chelsea have 4


https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

They both have an embarrassment of riches in terms of the squad so they're less likely to get fatigue injuries, players having to start every game in a tough schedule because other options are injured (causing further injuries) and needing to rush players back at times.

City navigated last season effortlessly as they were able to just make 5 changes from game to game without it weakening the side.

At least out of those 9 we should hopefully have 6 back training properly in the next couple of weeks.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #131 on: November 22, 2021, 07:02:40 pm »
right now we have 9 first-teamers injured

City have 5 [ffs they include MENDY !! plus Delap who's had ONE PL appearance]

Chelsea have 4


https://www.premierinjuries.com/injury-table.php

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Hopefully Joe will be back for the busy period later in Dec / Jan at least.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #132 on: November 23, 2021, 08:14:22 am »
nothing unlucky about his tackle. they were targeting him the whole game as i can recall.

our players literally receive no protection. eg vvd and thiago last season. Alisson this season so far. Wont be shocked if salah season ends during the arsenal game to be honest. The pundits will be cheering and celebrating no doubt about it.

jones was suffered during training which i can say is a bit unlucky and shouldn't happen in the first place but thats how we roll i guess. Intensity during the sessions and games.
Injuries that are more controllable on the team are muscle type stuff, non contact type stuff with rest and how you manage in practice, game etc. You cant control getting your leg broken or somebody taking your CB Knee out or a concussion etc.
I can understand what your saying but an injury considering more unlucky.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #133 on: November 23, 2021, 08:39:17 am »
They both have an embarrassment of riches in terms of the squad so they're less likely to get fatigue injuries, players having to start every game in a tough schedule because other options are injured (causing further injuries) and needing to rush players back at times.

In terms of pure numbers, City's squad is smaller than ours. I think the advantage they have is 16-17 players who are at that same 1st team level, where dropping someone in has very little difference in quality. I think we are possibly at 13-15 players at the same level and some of that is how you rate Tsimikas, Gomez, Firmino, Keita compared to the 1st XI.

The other factor is that City seem to have a lot of their strength in depth in attacking midfield. Plus the way they play makes 5 of the positions relatively interchangeable with a big part of their squad. We aren't quite like that. We have depth but it's not always like for like. Or it's that we ask specific things from certain positions (e.g. No.6 position) that makes it hard to have an elite back-up player who can slot right in.

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that City's squad is no bigger than ours but they way they can utilise their squad makes it seem like it's got more strength in depth overall than it potentially actually has on paper.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #134 on: November 23, 2021, 02:01:36 pm »
as far as I can see there's been no update on Jota's injury so far. 

anyone see anything on it?

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #135 on: November 23, 2021, 02:05:48 pm »
as far as I can see there's been no update on Jota's injury so far. 

anyone see anything on it?

I'm 10 mins into the pre-match press conference and so far he only mentioned Robbo and Hendo (who are close but probably won't be risked). Hopefully that's a good sign.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2021, 07:28:43 pm »
James Milner, Andy Robertson, Neco Williams, Diogo Jota and Divock Origi were all present and in high spirits as the session started with the traditional Happy Birthday call for Caoimhin Kelleher.

The quintet were also joined by Jordan Henderson, who Klopp was coy about his chances of starting after his appearance off the bench against Arsenal.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #138 on: November 24, 2021, 10:57:03 am »
Is there some sort of timeline on Curtis's eye injury?
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #139 on: November 24, 2021, 12:12:08 pm »
Is there some sort of timeline on Curtis's eye injury?

I remember Klopp saying 'weeks'.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #140 on: November 24, 2021, 02:36:08 pm »
Is there some sort of timeline on Curtis's eye injury?

seems like it's kinda unknow-able.  you can't exercise or rehab your way back to health, its just a question of how long nature takes.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #141 on: November 24, 2021, 03:20:41 pm »
Thanks for the replies, I mostly asked to see if there had been any news/updates that I had missed.
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« Reply #142 on: December 2, 2021, 06:59:29 pm »
Keita and Gomez back in full training. Curtis and Firmino still not ready.

Slowly and steadily, we are getting back numbers for the intense festive season.

Lovely to have these two available

Especially with that Milan match as can give them minutes
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Re: Injury blah
« Reply #143 on: December 2, 2021, 08:20:33 pm »
I really hope Gomez gets the opportunity to ease his way back in, he's had a rotten run with these injuries.
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Re: Injury blah
« Reply #144 on: December 2, 2021, 08:24:10 pm »
I really hope Gomez gets the opportunity to ease his way back in, he's had a rotten run with these injuries.

That is the worry, he has had a lot of injuries, only what 24?
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Re: Injury blah
« Reply #145 on: December 2, 2021, 09:13:08 pm »
That is the worry, he has had a lot of injuries, only what 24?

Yes 24. It can change though, had he for example had a full pre-season that can only help but he'd already picked up the injury. Look at Matip at the moment, he is actually managing to play in a number of games when he too was picking up injuries.
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« Reply #146 on: December 2, 2021, 09:32:28 pm »
Yes 24. It can change though, had he for example had a full pre-season that can only help but he'd already picked up the injury. Look at Matip at the moment, he is actually managing to play in a number of games when he too was picking up injuries.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #147 on: December 4, 2021, 08:18:56 pm »
What's Bobby's status? Is he expected to be back soon, has been a while now since the injury

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #148 on: December 7, 2021, 09:33:54 pm »
AOC seemed concerned as soon as he went down there.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #149 on: December 7, 2021, 09:41:49 pm »
AOC seemed concerned as soon as he went down there.

That’s what worried me. Surprised he went back in.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #150 on: December 7, 2021, 09:56:55 pm »
That’s what worried me. Surprised he went back in.
Me too. Good news for him though 
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #151 on: December 8, 2021, 06:50:10 pm »
Any news on Curtis's eye issue?
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #152 on: December 8, 2021, 07:10:06 pm »
What's Bobby's status? Is he expected to be back soon, has been a while now since the injury
target return Dec 16th apparently.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #153 on: December 9, 2021, 08:14:20 am »
Any news on Curtis's eye issue?

This belongs in the other thread Roy ;)

Firmino being back mid December is really important given AFCON. I'd hope that Firmino, Jota and Minamino/Origi can cover Salah and Mane's absence for a couple of league games without huge issues but I'd be less confident about Jota, Origi and Minamino.

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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #154 on: December 9, 2021, 09:38:13 am »
Me too. Good news for him though

Think it was just a clash of knees which can be quite painful rather than any twisting of the knee.
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #155 on: December 9, 2021, 09:51:35 am »
Always scary seeing him on the sidelines with the physios looking at his knee!

I imagine it'll always be like that, any sort of pain and he'll be worried its happened again
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #156 on: December 9, 2021, 06:46:18 pm »
Bobby is back in training - gallery there (no Konate, Jota! or Origi)

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/firmino-returns-reds-prepare-visit-aston-villa
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #157 on: December 9, 2021, 08:16:42 pm »
Bobby is back in training - gallery there (no Konate, Jota! or Origi)

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/firmino-returns-reds-prepare-visit-aston-villa
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #158 on: December 9, 2021, 08:25:32 pm »
Jota a worry as he didn’t play midweek.

Might be doing individual training

Won’t know more until tomorrow
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Re: Injury related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)
« Reply #159 on: December 10, 2021, 01:14:50 pm »
Doesn't sound too hopeful on Jota for the the Villa game.