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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #200 on: May 30, 2019, 02:14:59 pm »
Out reverse pulling 10 short of 100 , with a handful of balls left and your team relying on you.

Someone’s going to have to explain that one to me.

Trying to find the gaps and playing to whee the fielders were up. Just hit it straight to him!

Probably a sign that Rabada was bowling well too.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #201 on: May 30, 2019, 02:15:11 pm »
Whenever I watch England it seems like we get ourselves out with shot selection more than the other team earns the wicket.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #202 on: May 30, 2019, 02:16:08 pm »
Out reverse pulling 10 short of 100 , with a handful of balls left and your team relying on you.

Someone’s going to have to explain that one to me.

Thought his frustration showed for the last half hour. His competitive temperament can work against him even now, just as in his younger days.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #203 on: May 30, 2019, 02:19:38 pm »
Least it's runs on the board...

Looked a really tricky pitch to bat on. Though South Africa did bowl well. Especially when they bowled the cutters and slower stuff.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #204 on: May 30, 2019, 02:20:23 pm »
Amusing how 311 is considered quite shit these days.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #205 on: May 30, 2019, 02:23:34 pm »
Happy with that, reckon we'll limit them to about 260
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #206 on: May 30, 2019, 02:31:58 pm »
Ali is overrated as a so called all rounder, often fails with the bat.
Would prefer they played someone else.

And with the ball he is only average - since Jan 2016 (so 3.5 years - an awful lot of games to judge someone's ability on) and 66 games:
Batting:  48 innings, 9 NO, 897 @23, with a SR of 106.02, 1 100 and 2 50s - I would argue that is below average for a number 8 these days - compare that to Woakes who bats below him in the order, and he had in 28 innings, with 10 NO, 612 runs @36 and 4 50s, I know which I think is the better bat; even compared to Rashid who bats 11 it is not that much better (312 runs @17, so only 6 runs higher)
Bowling:  483 overs, 2657 runs, 46 wickets @57.76, a SR of 63 and an economy of 5.5 - good economy, but appalling SR and average, in the side clearly for his bowling economy, rather than wicket taking abilities.  Compared to Rashid, who has in the same time span bowled 554.5 overs, got 110 wickets @27.7, econ of 5.49 and SR of 30.2, it is not even close - even Rashid economy, which usually is criticised and the reason most given why Ali is in the team as well, is better! 

Looking at those England bowlers to have bowled more than 200 overs since 2016, as a comparison, Stokes has the worst economy (6.1) with a SR of 50, so arguably is the person Ali bowls ahead of as the 5th/6th choice.  Then you have Plunkett with econ of 5.89 and SR of 27.8 (so marginally worst econ - 4 runs per 10 overs, but massively better SR -  more than double the wickets) Willey with econ of 5.82 and SR of 44 (so marginally worst econ - 3 runs per 10 overs, significantly better SR - more 33% more wickets); and then everyone else has basically identical economies with much better SRs.  Beyond me why Ali keeps getting games in this format.


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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #207 on: May 30, 2019, 02:46:15 pm »
Looking forward to watching Amla bat, it's been a while.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #208 on: May 30, 2019, 02:48:47 pm »
Stokes got runs today but hasn't played consistently well for England for some time, over shadowed by Buttler's brilliance.
His timing hasn't been right since he got back in the side.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #209 on: May 30, 2019, 03:04:14 pm »
Looking forward to watching Amla bat, it's been a while.

Sad to see him off with potential concussion.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #210 on: May 30, 2019, 03:12:10 pm »
England need to get De Kock out soon, he scores runs very quickly and is already looking in good touch.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #211 on: May 30, 2019, 03:16:30 pm »
In happier news, Jimmy has hit his first ever 6 for Lancashire today, 17 years after his debut!

The 4th 6 of his first class career. :D

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #212 on: May 30, 2019, 03:26:00 pm »
In even happier news, here's former Zimbabwean cricketer Henry Olonga on The Voice Australia.

https://youtu.be/tYVAk9McLGI

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #213 on: May 30, 2019, 03:30:24 pm »
Faf gaaaawn!

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #214 on: May 30, 2019, 03:30:54 pm »
Is that a new directive or something? It didn't seem to hit him directly and I've seen batsmen get hit far harder and stay on.

Don’t think it is. They originally brought four helmets out (that has to be replaced) for him to try, but it appeared that the S.A doctor wasn’t happy after examining him.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #215 on: May 30, 2019, 03:31:18 pm »
That's not a good shot.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #216 on: May 30, 2019, 03:31:32 pm »
No faffing around today.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #217 on: May 30, 2019, 03:33:04 pm »
Sad to see him off with potential concussion.

In the case of concussion and a retired hurt suggested by a team doctor, I don't really see a great argument for not having substitutes in Cricket. Obviously you wouldn't want a situation where, say, Jimmy Anderson is replaced by Buttler or something as it changes the dynamic of the game - but I do think it's one to explore...

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #218 on: May 30, 2019, 03:33:11 pm »
Big wicket!! I bet he regrets that shot though!
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #219 on: May 30, 2019, 03:33:55 pm »
Go on Jofra lad.

Great to see a young English lad burst onto the scene and make an impact.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #220 on: May 30, 2019, 03:34:43 pm »
Big wicket!! I bet he regrets that shot though!

He should have waited and been patient.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #221 on: May 30, 2019, 03:38:42 pm »
Well that was lucky.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #222 on: May 30, 2019, 03:39:02 pm »
Balsa bails please!
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #223 on: May 30, 2019, 03:42:16 pm »
Why on earth have we picked 2 spinners?!
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #224 on: May 30, 2019, 03:42:30 pm »
He should have waited and been patient.

Agreed. Especially going to the long boundary. Get in first and then take it on.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #225 on: May 30, 2019, 03:44:42 pm »
Why on earth have we picked 2 spinners?!

Good question. Like I said earlier, this was the match to “rest” Mo.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #226 on: May 30, 2019, 03:46:09 pm »
Fuck me. World champions with Buttler keeping is a stretch.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #227 on: May 30, 2019, 03:46:11 pm »
Good question. Like I said earlier, this was the match to “rest” Mo.

Rash I get. He gets sharp turn. But Ali just seems like an average batsman and average bowler now. I have always been a big fan of Ali. But I think it's time to look elsewhere.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #228 on: May 30, 2019, 03:46:13 pm »
Good question. Like I said earlier, this was the match to “rest” Mo.

Although the spinners should have had 2 wickets so far, so troubling the batsmen.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #229 on: May 30, 2019, 03:46:27 pm »
Why on earth have we picked 2 spinners?!

We’ve played two spinners almost all the way through our good run over the last four years haven’t we. Would have been a bold call to change that now.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #230 on: May 30, 2019, 03:49:45 pm »
We’ve played two spinners almost all the way through our good run over the last four years haven’t we. Would have been a bold call to change that now.

But although they’re getting some turn, it is unexpected. I agree with two spinners on some wickets. This is a surprise.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #231 on: May 30, 2019, 03:50:29 pm »
Somewhat fortunate that. Didn't hit the stump quite as hard as they made it sound on tms though.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #232 on: May 30, 2019, 03:56:31 pm »
Big pressure on de Kock here. Doesn't look like South Africa have many runs in their tail.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #233 on: May 30, 2019, 04:00:26 pm »
Really need to start chipping away at that run rate, over 7 now.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #234 on: May 30, 2019, 04:15:29 pm »
Don't think Plunkett should be in the squad, let alone the starting X1. Wiley is much the better bowler

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #235 on: May 30, 2019, 04:17:10 pm »
England need a wicket
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #236 on: May 30, 2019, 04:18:13 pm »
28 off the last 2 overs.

That's painful!!

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #237 on: May 30, 2019, 04:18:53 pm »
Liking the look of van der Dussen, first time I'm watching him. Keeps very still in the crease, minimal footwork. Good technique for these flat pitches.
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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #238 on: May 30, 2019, 04:19:27 pm »
These two need to put on another 100 for them to have a chance I think.

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Re: CRICKET World Cup 2019 in England and Wales
« Reply #239 on: May 30, 2019, 04:20:08 pm »
Don't think Plunkett should be in the squad, let alone the starting X1. Wiley is much the better bowler

It’s Tom Curran I feel should be in in place of Plunkett this game. Willey needs the ball to be swinging.
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