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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #640 on: October 5, 2022, 07:19:12 pm »
Like to think he can add to the team when Klopp unleashes him. He's a tidy player, good technically albeit slightly slow. Hopefully with games coming thick and fast, he'll get his chance

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #641 on: October 5, 2022, 07:33:38 pm »
Like to think he can add to the team when Klopp unleashes him. He's a tidy player, good technically albeit slightly slow. Hopefully with games coming thick and fast, he'll get his chance

It is a bit of a double edged sword. If we continue to play a double pivot it suits Melos game. However he is then competing for two places instead of three.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #642 on: October 5, 2022, 07:46:39 pm »
Has this lad even set foot on the pitch for us yet??
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #643 on: October 5, 2022, 07:48:32 pm »
Has this lad even set foot on the pitch for us yet??

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #644 on: October 5, 2022, 07:50:12 pm »
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It wasn’t his fault, honest.

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« Reply #645 on: October 5, 2022, 09:00:41 pm »
It is a bit of a double edged sword. If we continue to play a double pivot it suits Melos game. However he is then competing for two places instead of three.

Yeah but with less players. It's Fab, Hendo, Thiago and perhaps Keita. Milner as well perhaps.

Realistically Arthur is battling with Keita to back up Thiago.

A bit ominous if he couldn't make the bench yesterday though.
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« Reply #646 on: October 5, 2022, 09:02:39 pm »
A bit ominous if he couldn't make the bench yesterday though.

Must've been Covid or something similar.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #647 on: October 5, 2022, 10:19:16 pm »
Don’t know much about this guy except we got him at the 11th hour of the window.  Is he injured and/or not good enough?

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #648 on: October 5, 2022, 10:29:00 pm »
Don’t know much about this guy except we got him at the 11th hour of the window.  Is he injured and/or not good enough?

He arrived having not played in months, has seemingly been working really hard to get his fitness up, including playing some U-23 games. This was the first time he should have been fit and ready for some decent minutes but wasn't on the bench at all, so presumably something happened last minute as we had two keepers on the bench and he had been getting on the bench plenty before last night.

Someone mentioned the players wearing masks ahead of the Rangers game so there's the possibility of Covid, but it could be anything really.

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« Reply #649 on: October 5, 2022, 10:31:59 pm »
It wasn’t his fault, honest.

Thankfully, I was unable to watch that.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #650 on: October 5, 2022, 11:12:56 pm »
The Chelsea players wore masks before their game against Milan. Maybe it is a UEFA directive.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #651 on: October 6, 2022, 12:47:59 am »
The Chelsea players wore masks before their game against Milan. Maybe it is a UEFA directive.

Yeah, they were told to cover their hideous faces.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #652 on: October 6, 2022, 09:25:28 am »
Yeah, they were told to cover their hideous faces.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #653 on: October 7, 2022, 12:01:57 am »
Exactly. He has not done a thing wrong since he got here, just he hasn't played many minutes for a long time and needs to get up to speed. Our team is not suffering because of this lad. If he gets his fitness up am sure in the League and FA cups he will get his chances.

I assume he's caught covid or something, as you'd imagine with him on the PR offensive to make a good impression that he'd turn up to support the team even if he somehow didn't make the squad.

If he's fit and healthy, and didn't make the squad ahead of one of our two sub keepers, then it'd probably become fair to say he has done a thing or two wrong in training! That has to be unlikely though, surely... cos that'd be pretty shocking

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #654 on: October 7, 2022, 10:47:28 am »
Injured. I think that makes him officially a Liverpool player.  ;D Welcome!!!

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #655 on: October 7, 2022, 10:51:39 am »
Injured. I think that makes him officially a Liverpool player.  ;D Welcome!!!
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #656 on: October 7, 2022, 10:52:50 am »
He had a patchy injury record before we got hold of him, no real surprise he's picked something up.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #657 on: October 7, 2022, 10:53:37 am »
The Italians really don't like old Arthur....

Liverpool want to sign Marcelo Brozovic in January because they feel ‘disappointed’ at the summer arrival of midfielder Arthur Melo, a report claims.

The Reds’ stance for most of the summer transfer window was that they would not sign a midfielder. They spent big on Darwin Nunez up front, with Jurgen Klopp harking back to his mantra of finding “solutions” if injuries arrived.

Injuries did arrive, with Naby Keita, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Curtis Jones, Thiago Alcantara and Jordan Henderson all spending time out.

Liverpool subsequently brought in Juventus midfielder Arthur on loan on deadline day, with an option to buy.

According to Calciomercatoweb, though, the Anfield club feel ‘disappointed’ at the signing of Arthur.

The 26-year-old Brazilian does not fit into the ‘greater calibre’ of player Liverpool were after to fit into their ‘season objectives’.

Liverpool came into this season off the back of a 63-game campaign in which they were two games away from an unprecedented quadruple of trophies.

As a result, the report cements previous reports that the Reds want to sign Inter midfielder Brozovic.

In fact, Klopp wants the 29-year-old Croatian in ‘as soon as possible’, pointing to a January 2023 raid.

Brozovic available for transfer amid uncertainty
But, Brozovic will not come cheap or easily, as his contract only expires in the summer of 2026.

He signed a new deal in March, but despite that, he has been linked with a move away from Italy after seven-and-a-half years in the country.

The initial reports talking of Liverpool’s interest in the midfielder claimed that Inter remain hopeful of keeping him.

However, the latest report claims that Inter are also beginning to look towards potential Brozovic replacements.

And they could go after Leicester’s Youri Tielemans, who looks more easily attainable than Brozovic. His terms with the Foxes expire next summer. Although, the likelihood of him extending at the King Power Stadium is slim.

Brozovic, who has played 76 times for Croatia, has played 299 times for Inter.

Tielemans, meanwhile, has proved the driving force in Leicester’s recent rise. But, amid their recent slump, it looks as if he could seek a new challenge elsewhere.

Liverpool need strong midfield investment
Amid strong talk of Liverpool going after Borussia Dortmund’s Jude Bellingham instead, what is clear is that the Reds need strong midfield investment in either – or both – of the next two transfer windows.

With Brozovic and Tielemans reportedly beginning to look elsewhere for potential new clubs, Liverpool have a duo in the same position.

Keita and Oxlade-Chamberlain are spending the final year of their Anfield contracts on the sidelines.

As such, Liverpool will need to re-bolster their engine room.

As well as that, though, they need a statement addition on top of that. Signing 29-year-old Brozovic would likely go against their transfer model – as the arrival of Thiago Alcantara did.

However, Thiago has proved a brilliant signing and so too could Brozovic.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #658 on: October 7, 2022, 10:54:39 am »
No chance we're in for Brozovic unless it's on a free or cut-price deal.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #659 on: October 7, 2022, 10:56:57 am »
No chance we're in for Brozovic unless it's on a free or cut-price deal.

The whole thing is a load of bollocks, how do Calciomercatoweb know that we are disappointed with Arthur?  If anything, he's been doing all the right things in playing for the U23's, not going on holiday and bringing a fitness coach to get himself up to speed with his fitness.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #660 on: October 7, 2022, 11:01:42 am »
The whole thing is a load of bollocks, how do Calciomercatoweb know that we are disappointed with Arthur?  If anything, he's been doing all the right things in playing for the U23's, not going on holiday and bringing a fitness coach to get himself up to speed with his fitness.

They sound quite reputable and trustworthy to me. I mean, with a line like this

"Tielemans, meanwhile, has proved the driving force in Leicester’s recent rise. But, amid their recent slump, it looks as if he could seek a new challenge elsewhere"

Journalism, or Google Translate, at its very finest

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #661 on: October 7, 2022, 11:17:38 am »
If Arthur Melo is not available to help us in a packed October, there was no point signing him.

Imagine Klopp needing a midfielder and the club granting him someone who wasn't even training with his team, FFS.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #662 on: October 7, 2022, 11:29:04 am »
If Arthur Melo is not available to help us in a packed October, there was no point signing him.

Imagine Klopp needing a midfielder and the club granting him someone who wasn't even training with his team, FFS.

And with a terrible injury record.

The summer was bordering on incompetent from the club.

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« Reply #663 on: October 7, 2022, 11:29:43 am »
he's now caught up and had an LFC preseason!
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #664 on: October 7, 2022, 12:04:45 pm »
If Arthur Melo is not available to help us in a packed October, there was no point signing him.

Imagine Klopp needing a midfielder and the club granting him someone who wasn't even training with his team, FFS.

worse, we’ve paid Juve to get their player fit


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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #665 on: October 7, 2022, 12:11:45 pm »
And with a terrible injury record.

The summer was bordering on incompetent from the club.

Bordering?

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #666 on: October 7, 2022, 12:21:32 pm »
If Arthur Melo is not available to help us in a packed October, there was no point signing him.

Imagine Klopp needing a midfielder and the club granting him someone who wasn't even training with his team, FFS.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #667 on: October 7, 2022, 12:23:17 pm »
he's now caught up and had an LFC preseason!

hahahahahaahahahahahhhhhhhhh.... kill me

His signing is testament to the total confusion at the club over our midfield situation last window - for a club with our financial resources and recruitment expertise to end up with a player who didnt tick the first box we needed ticking (has legs / can run / is often available... that box) is bizarre

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #668 on: October 7, 2022, 12:25:44 pm »
And with a terrible injury record.

The summer was bordering on incompetent from the club.

Darwin has barely played, give him a chance ffs.
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« Reply #669 on: October 7, 2022, 12:41:44 pm »
I actually think he'll play his part when he's fully fit., it'll take him a bit of time to get on par with our training regimes but when he does, he'll get some game time.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #670 on: October 7, 2022, 12:47:03 pm »
If Arthur Melo is not available to help us in a packed October, there was no point signing him.

Imagine Klopp needing a midfielder and the club granting him someone who wasn't even training with his team, FFS.

I dont agree. We needed a player and we got a international player. Therefore if we have a injury crisis then he is still available.

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« Reply #671 on: October 7, 2022, 01:06:56 pm »
Oh shock. We loaned in an injury prone player who’s now picked up an injury.

Who’d have thought  :butt

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« Reply #672 on: October 7, 2022, 03:42:58 pm »
Love to know what the club's logic was in this signing. I want to give him a chance but it does look shambolic.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #673 on: October 7, 2022, 04:02:10 pm »
Wow who could have possibly seen this coming.

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« Reply #674 on: October 7, 2022, 04:03:14 pm »
Love to know what the club's logic was in this signing. I want to give him a chance but it does look shambolic.

It was a pretty late panic signing to boost the numbers, which have since been boosted by players returning from injury. Not sure why people are thinking it was anything different. We didn't want to spend money on a permanent signing who wasn't in our plans so got what we could get on loan.

However.....we did sign him for the season. If we did what we did last season (I know) we'd play 40 games after the WC, so it does seem a bit weird that people think the sky is falling because he's not played yet and has picked up probably a minor injury in October. Its not a CB for six months who has never played higher than the Championship, its someone who has been capped 20 odd times for Brazil and played 140 games over the last four years for Juve and Barca. But hasn't played football since May, I dont think he had a pre-season at Juve either (?).
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #675 on: October 7, 2022, 04:08:53 pm »
I dont agree. We needed a player and we got a international player. Therefore if we have a injury crisis then he is still available.

Not available now though, is he? And injured, on top of lack of sharpness, from no training. I thought the point about Melo was he could rotate with Thiago who we REALLY REALLY need to keep from injury.

So the quicker that happens the better.

If the logic was have someone available immediately to cover us when Henderson was crocked then the logic has failed.

I will always be positive about a new player but unless he plays a role soon, really no point at all to Melo at Liverpool. May was well just wait until the World Cup and bring someone else in, provided we have that target in mind and they are available.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #676 on: October 7, 2022, 04:15:33 pm »
If the logic was have someone available immediately to cover us when Henderson was crocked then the logic has failed.

If that was the logic, then everyone involved in the decision should be fired immediately :)

If a glut of people on a forum could see that someone who hadn't played since May and didn't have a pre-season, and is fairly injury prone, wasn't going to be able to immediately come into a team like ours then I'm going to take a slight stab in the dark that one of the biggest and best clubs in the world sports science/physio/coaching/management teams might have clocked the same thing. As with anything, you can write 'he was bought in just to cover Hendersons injury' as many times as you like. It doesn't suddenly make it true.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #677 on: October 7, 2022, 04:34:38 pm »
Love to know what the club's logic was in this signing. I want to give him a chance but it does look shambolic.

It was just a panic buy at the end of the window, brought on by Henderson going off injured against Newcastle (i.e. Kabak and Davies at the end of Jan 2021). After spending the summer stubbornly saying we weren't going to sign a midfielder, then saying we wouldn't just get someone in for the sake of it, that's what we ended up doing.

Even so, it's an extra number so let's see if he can add something to our season or at least kick a ball for us at some point. His World Cup hopes look very unlikely now.
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Re: Arthur Melo
« Reply #678 on: October 7, 2022, 04:39:06 pm »
And with a terrible injury record.

The summer was bordering on incompetent from the club.

It's just maddening that such stubbornness or arrogance (failure to address the midfield in the summer, particularly after the early injuries) pretty much wrote off the league campaign before it started.

Scrambling around for a loan signing in desperation in the last 48 hours of the window (for the 2nd time in 3 seasons to boot) is incompetent and won't get you the player you need. Once is bad enough, twice is negligent to the extreme.
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« Reply #679 on: October 7, 2022, 04:48:45 pm »
It's just maddening that such stubbornness or arrogance (failure to address the midfield in the summer, particularly after the early injuries) pretty much wrote off the league campaign before it started.

Scrambling around for a loan signing in desperation in the last 48 hours of the window (for the 2nd time in 3 seasons to boot) is incompetent and won't get you the player you need. Once is bad enough, twice is negligent to the extreme.

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