Topic: SPOILERS The Chainless Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon Discussion

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Definitely think all the dragons will die.

I don't think they all will but I can definitely see one going. Probably the biggest one, Drogon is it called?

As soon as I saw that scene in the trailer where Jamie's charging on horseback I had a feeling he might be about to kill one of the dragons. How exactly he'll manage it I'm not sure, maybe with wildfire or maybe with the aid of Euron's present, whatever that turns out to be.

Or you know, he doesn't.

[oojason]

Episode 2 extended / Comic Con trailer...

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[Brian Blessed]

So, if the walkers could get into the cave once Bran was touched, does that mean they can now cross the wall as Bran has?

[Brian Blessed]

Episode 2 extended / Comic Con trailer...

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That looks like it's the season, rather than episode 2.

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So if Jon allies with Dany, and the Martells ally with the Iron Islands, can't see beyond them for victory.

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[Macphisto80]

So, if the walkers could get into the cave once Bran was touched, does that mean they can now cross the wall as Bran has?

I think that only applied as the cave was protected by 3ER and the Children. I think they'd some kind of magic protecting them from anything entering.

[JoeCole]

What about Edmure? I hope someone lets him out.

Probably at Casterly Rock. I think Jaime said to him that he'd send him and his family there and eventually, at some point in the future, they'd get given their own home and land.

[FaitAccompli]

Arya literally killed every Frey and still didn't let him out. It's like she forgot she had an uncle locked up there.

Wasn't he taken to Riverrun as a ploy to get the Blackfish to surrender? He's probably there under the guard of Lannister men.

[Macphisto80]

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I know its book and book isn't series - but doesn't Euron try taking a dragon and get killed/severly injured? Or am I thinking of a different character?

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Not sure, mate. Haven't read the book.

Interesting to know anyway. I might not be too far off.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Wasn't he taken to Riverrun as a ploy to get the Blackfish to surrender? He's probably there under the guard of Lannister men.

No at the feast Walder gleefully told Jamie that he was back in the Dungeon ''can't be killing my son by marriage''.

[Brian Blessed]

Wasn't he taken to Riverrun as a ploy to get the Blackfish to surrender? He's probably there under the guard of Lannister men.

he was used to take back command of the castle from Black fish.

[DrTobiasFunke]

Definitely think all the dragons will die.

Just got me thinking - can the White Walkers reanimate dragons?

Would be a great twist if one of the dragons killed off Dany.

[El Lobo]

Just got me thinking - can the White Walkers reanimate dragons?

Would be a great twist if one of the dragons killed off Dany.

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Pretty sure there was some adverty stuff doing the rounds showing the night king on an ice dragon

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[oojason]

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Pretty sure there was some adverty stuff doing the rounds showing the night king on an ice dragon

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there is indeed - https://www.thereportertimes.com/entertainment/game-thrones-season-7-ice-dragon/ - unless of course it is part of their mis-direction for this season (which included filming fake scenes where they knew the paperazzi/snappers would be)...

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[jillcwhomever]

Just got me thinking - can the White Walkers reanimate dragons?

Would be a great twist if one of the dragons killed off Dany.

No one is killing Dany. 

[OsirisMVZ]

Watching live at work on Sky. Don't tell my boss.

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Man that was some good reactionary acting from Arya. She got the first glimmer of hope she's had in years, with that news about Jon's current status.

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[TheShanklyGates]

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Oh Theon

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[Trada]

The only happy person in that episode was Greyworm

[cptrios]

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Oh Theon

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I'm pretty happy with that, myself. Glad he didn't have a bland old redemption story.

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[El Lobo]

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Thank you Euron!!

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[OsirisMVZ]

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First thought that Theon would end up sending the message anyway, but then of course who is there to send it to? He's just left the Dornish regent to be raped in captivity for weeks. Where on earth can he either go, or be washed up?

That's Dany's army to attack King's Landing with delayed for a bit. Maybe Theon will drift past Gendry's boat.

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[S]

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Was it just PTSD for Theon, or did he realise his only chance of actually saving his sister was to flee? Not sure. Interesting set up now though, Cersei looks considerably stronger after this episode.

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[TheShanklyGates]

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Was it just PTSD for Theon, or did he realise his only chance of actually saving his sister was to flee? Not sure. Interesting set up now though, Cersei looks considerably stronger after this episode.

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Looked like straight up PTSD to me, that last shot of him in the water may as well have been him curled up in a corner somewhere in the foetal position. I don't think there was any element of a calculated decision to flee.

Cersei does look much stronger now although I expect Daenerys to proceed with her attack on Casterly Rock which I can see going much better for her. There is the question of what happens to the Dornish army now that Ellaria is Cersei's prisoner.

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[S]

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Looked like straight up PTSD to me, that last shot of him in the water may as well have been him curled up in a corner somewhere in the foetal position. I don't think there was any element of a calculated decision to flee.

Cersei does look much stronger now although I expect Daenerys to proceed with her attack on Casterly Rock which I can see going much better for her. There is the question of what happens to the Dornish army now that Ellaria is Cersei's prisoner.

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I suspect you're right. Difficult to see where Theon goes from here.

There were hints of Dany turning somewhat aggressive this episode. Tyrion and Varys supplied the voices of reasoned tactics but you can tell she's tempted by Olenna's more anarchic approach. I'm guessing she might be heading even more that way after losing some of her army.

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[deFacto please, you bastards]

Brilliant episode

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Theon, what the fuck mate, !!!!!? Wrong time to have that type of moment what next? And does anyone else think that Sonsa will betray Jon in some way?

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[BER]

 

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Wait is

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Yara dead, or was that someone else hanging from the ship whilst Theon was looking?

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[OsirisMVZ]

Wait is

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Yara dead, or was that someone else hanging from the ship whilst Theon was looking?

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Two of the Sand Snakes

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Brilliant episode

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Theon, what the fuck mate, !!!!!? Wrong time to have that type of moment what next? And does anyone else think that Sonsa will betray Jon in some way?

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Him running away was ironically the only way to keep the both of them alive.

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[BeautifulGame91]

Wait is

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Yara dead, or was that someone else hanging from the ship whilst Theon was looking?

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Taken as prisoner I think

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[BeautifulGame91]

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Will the Dornish army really care for Ellaria if she is in prison of Cersai ?

Afterall she killed their King and has no direct lineage to the Dornish crown and is a bastard

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[deFacto please, you bastards]

Wish this was on Netflix and all of the episodes would be released at once

[Clayton Bigsby]

Quality episode

[Riquende]

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You can tell someone isn't too genre-savvy (as much as the show is a genre in its own right): "I'm like you... I'm a survivor".

I was waiting for the instant spear thrust through the chest!

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[Red Viper]

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Battle of the Minor Characters You're Completely Indifferent To (Oh and Theon)

Pretty good episode all in all. Enjoyed the Arya stuff and even though I didn't give a shit about anyone in that final scene I got on board a bit when Euron started butchering sandsnakes. 

Doesn't stop me thinking he's just another boring cartoon villain who ridiculously gets 100s of monstrous ships built in a matter of months/weeks.

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[JLStretton]

Euron captain cheese surpassing Negan in the cheesiness game well done mate.

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The way he come down to attack the ship

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Arya stole the show again.

[filopastry]

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A generally decent episode, with the exception of the Missandei/Grey Worm stuff, we've got 7 eps this season and still waste our time on this shit, almost fast forwarded!

A good ep for team Lannister anyway, if the Dornish are pretty much out of the game and the Tyrell's may largely now be onside then the balance of power has shifted considerably.

I'm sure Littlefinger will be trying to get in Sansa's ear as much as possible in Jon's absence.

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[Gili Gulu]

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My words on the episode finishing: "Wowzer".
I think a lot of you are under-rating this episode, I thought it was fantastic.
Arya, good. Samwell/Jorah, good. Euron, awesome. Dany's Gang, great. Our Friends in the North, great.

Packed a lot in, and was very very enjoyable.

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[Nobby Reserve]

Haven't yet seen 'tonight's' episode yet, and am just catching up with this thread, so forgive me if I'm relating to old stuff.

Re: the Sheeran thing, I'd not read much pre-series stuff and didn't know he was going to be in the series, never mind that episode. When the scene happened I thought "Ha! Doesn't he look like Ed Sheeran" and thought nothing more about it.

Could what Euron said he would get be that dragonbinder horn thing mentioned in the books?   [this might have been blown out the water by now after last night's episode]

[JoeCole]

That was an absolutely perfect episode

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Even if that battle sequence didn't happen at the end I still would have rated this very highly when it comes to favourite episodes, the pacing was spot on and there were some really brilliant and touching scenes.

Arya and Nymeria reunited. I've been waiting to see this for years. I didn't pick up on it myself at the time but the "That's not you" line was a throwback to Arya saying "That's not me" in reply to Ned in season 1, when he said she'd grow up to be a lady of a house. And hot pie!!! Their interaction really showcased how different Arya is now compared to season 3, and it was a really touching scene when she found out about Jon.

The verbal sparring between Varys and Dany was definitely needed, and probably should have happened last season really, but at least it has finally arrived. I can't stand Daenerys and ultimately don't want her to end the show on the Throne, but I do like most of her council. Also interesting to see Melisandre show up there so quickly, be interesting to see how Davos handles that next week considering he told her he'd kill her if he ever saw her again.

And then the battle. I didn't expect it to happen so soon. I thought Euron's "gift" would be (an attempt at getting) Tyrion. But it makes perfect sense that the gift is Ellaria, the woman who killed Cersei's daughter. They also captured Ellaria's daughter so I expect next week will include some pretty gruesome shit. So glad that Theon jumped overboard, he's been through so much development that it would be a shame to see him die now fighting for Daenerys. He's a Northerner at heart, he should go back and play his part there, perhaps with the Brotherhood. 

Not sure the point in keeping Yara alive at this point. Ellaria and Tyene are a gift for Cersei, but she won't care about Yara. If Euron's just going to kill her next week then why not just do it on the boat to add an extra body to the mix? Must be something I'm not seeing left for her to do in the story...

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[cptrios]

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A generally decent episode, with the exception of the Missandei/Grey Worm stuff, we've got 7 eps this season and still waste our time on this shit, almost fast forwarded!

A good ep for team Lannister anyway, if the Dornish are pretty much out of the game and the Tyrell's may largely now be onside then the balance of power has shifted considerably.

I'm sure Littlefinger will be trying to get in Sansa's ear as much as possible in Jon's absence.

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I think it's a genuinely heartening sign that a substantial number of men watched a scene of a nude, astonishingly good-looking woman and thought "Jesus, this is a bit much."

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[gamble]

if the first episode was slow and boring, this made up for it.
Good stuff