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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6000 on: October 2, 2022, 09:29:39 am »
It's obvious he could and should be great, but he never quite gets there does he?

Watching him is reminiscent of Xabi Alonso in those seasons when he was supposed to have been 'underperforming' to the extent of justifying Rafa offloading him to buy Gareth Barry, he's constantly and frustratingly close to brilliant but also ultimately flatters to deceive. Would like to see him actually having an Alonso 08/09 type of performance sometime soon, there hasn't been too many of those.

I know that he's just back from injury and that he's not the problem with our team, but not sure he's the solution either.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6001 on: October 2, 2022, 02:33:53 pm »
It's obvious he could and should be great, but he never quite gets there does he?

Watching him is reminiscent of Xabi Alonso in those seasons when he was supposed to have been 'underperforming' to the extent of justifying Rafa offloading him to buy Gareth Barry, he's constantly and frustratingly close to brilliant but also ultimately flatters to deceive. Would like to see him actually having an Alonso 08/09 type of performance sometime soon, there hasn't been too many of those.

I know that he's just back from injury and that he's not the problem with our team, but not sure he's the solution either.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6002 on: October 7, 2022, 12:40:16 am »
 8) ;D


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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6003 on: October 7, 2022, 08:29:13 am »
8) ;D



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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6004 on: October 7, 2022, 10:20:19 am »
8) ;D



Pep there thinking of the title for his next book: Focus (out of)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6005 on: October 7, 2022, 12:30:03 pm »
Pep there thinking of the title for his next book: Focus (out of)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6006 on: October 7, 2022, 01:03:12 pm »
Pep there thinking of the title for his next book: Focus (out of)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6007 on: October 7, 2022, 02:06:39 pm »
I shit myself everytime some twat bumps this thread!
If he retires I'll eat my fucking cock.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6008 on: October 7, 2022, 02:39:40 pm »
Same. We need to embargo posts in this thread apart from after our games. Where we’ll most likely be able to talk about how boss he is.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6009 on: October 7, 2022, 02:46:48 pm »
"Jürgen Klopp is bringing Liverpool's 'fuck you' back. And I can't wait."

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6010 on: October 7, 2022, 05:49:25 pm »
I shit myself everytime some twat bumps this thread!
weird title for a book by Pep.  :-\

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6011 on: October 7, 2022, 05:57:16 pm »
Same. We need to embargo posts in this thread apart from after our games. Where we’ll most likely be able to talk about how boss he is.

He's our best midfielder and rude on the ball love him

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6012 on: October 7, 2022, 06:49:19 pm »
weird title for a book by Pep.  :-\

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6013 on: October 7, 2022, 07:24:22 pm »
Incontinence by Pep Lijnders

Not a bestseller, that cologne
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6014 on: October 7, 2022, 08:16:39 pm »
Can see him missing out and big changes from the Rangers game this weekend.  Fab and Harvey could come in to replace Thiago and Nunez, might even see Jota get put on the bench for Bobby?
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6015 on: October 8, 2022, 01:21:55 pm »
He was not training yesterday apparently. That doesn't sound good but hopefully not because of a new injury.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6016 on: October 9, 2022, 06:35:22 pm »
One of the really scary things about us is Thiago looks old at this point.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6017 on: October 9, 2022, 06:39:40 pm »
He was great for 60 minutes but clearly ran out of steam. Should have been subbed but Klopp decided to dismantle the side completely.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6018 on: October 9, 2022, 06:42:37 pm »
One of the really scary things about us is Thiago looks old at this point.

Almost all of our midfield look too old at this point. There is no fuel in this engine room at all, and it destroys the whole system. We just got outfought by Arsenal for most of the second half, and it was a physical mismatch.


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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6019 on: October 9, 2022, 06:44:32 pm »
He looked his age playing in a 2 against an in-form team who are flying and have youth all over the pitch.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6020 on: October 9, 2022, 06:44:55 pm »
Almost all of our midfield look too old at this point. There is no fuel in this engine room at all, and it destroys the whole system. We just got outfought by Arsenal for most of the second half, and it was a physical mismatch.

What we used to do to teams. The incompetence to spend the bare minimum because we have klopp has well and truly caught up with us.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6021 on: October 9, 2022, 06:45:21 pm »
He’s class but not his day today.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6022 on: October 9, 2022, 06:48:22 pm »
He remains a decidedly odd signing.

No doubting his quality but his age, attributes, style and fitness alway made him a bit of a mis-fit.

At this point his biggest impact has been completely knackering the balance of our midfield, although the state of those around him hasn't helped it has to be acknowledged

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6023 on: October 9, 2022, 06:50:12 pm »
He did fine, I mean fuck me..no one else can run but at least this one can pass the fucking ball and control it.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6024 on: October 9, 2022, 06:51:28 pm »
He remains a decidedly odd signing.

No doubting his quality but his age, attributes, style and fitness alway made him a bit of a mis-fit.

At this point his biggest impact has been completely knackering the balance of our midfield, although the state of those around him hasn't helped it has to be acknowledged
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6025 on: October 9, 2022, 06:51:57 pm »
He’s class but not his day today.

Best player on the park first half. Legs went 2nd half. It's almost like we should have invested in younger midfielders.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6026 on: October 9, 2022, 06:53:27 pm »
He was great until he started giving the ball away in the last 30min

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6027 on: October 9, 2022, 06:53:29 pm »
He remains a decidedly odd signing.

No doubting his quality but his age, attributes, style and fitness alway made him a bit of a mis-fit.

At this point his biggest impact has been completely knackering the balance of our midfield, although the state of those around him hasn't helped it has to be acknowledged

He’s our best midfielder lol but he can’t run. If he can’t run, you need at least one that can do the running for him. Not sure why the coaching team haven’t seen that.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6028 on: October 9, 2022, 07:01:47 pm »
Stick him in midfield with the Fabinho of previous seasons as well as 2018-2020 Gini Wijnaldum and you have (arguably) the best midfield in Europe.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6029 on: October 9, 2022, 08:46:11 pm »
Yeah when your other 2 midfielders are Thiago and Fabinho you desperately need athleticism from the 3rd. But if you have it you’re incredible. I’m so angry about this transfer window. It was one thing we could control and we decided we could wait a year to strengthen the midfield. Absolute madness.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6030 on: October 12, 2022, 10:46:08 pm »
Is there a clause in his contract that he has to make at least 10 slide tackles every game - so many unnecessary slide tackles when he came on :D :D

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6031 on: October 12, 2022, 10:47:30 pm »
Is there a clause in his contract that he has to make at least 10 slide tackles every game - so many unnecessary slide tackles when he came on :D :D

The lad is a brilliant footballer... but he can't defend and can't tackle. Every time he plays I think he's getting a yellow card for some foul or other.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6032 on: October 12, 2022, 10:56:17 pm »
The lad is a brilliant footballer... but he can't defend and can't tackle. Every time he plays I think he's getting a yellow card for some foul or other.

Extraordinarily wrong. Take a bow.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6033 on: October 12, 2022, 10:58:06 pm »
The lad is a brilliant footballer... but he can't defend and can't tackle. Every time he plays I think he's getting a yellow card for some foul or other.

Oh Jesus. Don’t say that. Didn’t you know Thiago is seen as some sort of footballing god who can’t do no wrong.

But yes his tackling can be a bit ropey at times.

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« Reply #6034 on: October 12, 2022, 10:58:31 pm »
The lad is a brilliant footballer... but he can't defend and can't tackle. Every time he plays I think he's getting a yellow card for some foul or other.

Disagree - I think he's actually very good and has improved loads with respect to defending in Klopp's system. He also gets these slide tackles right most of the time how. Today was just funny because some of them were just not needed, he could've just made a normal tackle. It just felt like he wanted to get his shorts dirty :D

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6035 on: October 12, 2022, 11:00:50 pm »
https://fbref.com/en/players/77e84962/Thiago-Alcantara

In a team that has loads of the ball he's in the 93rd percentile of midfielders for tackles per 90 and 94th of interceptions. But yeah. Can't defend. Can't tackle.

Total drivel.

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« Reply #6036 on: October 13, 2022, 12:13:50 am »
https://fbref.com/en/players/77e84962/Thiago-Alcantara

In a team that has loads of the ball he's in the 93rd percentile of midfielders for tackles per 90 and 94th of interceptions. But yeah. Can't defend. Can't tackle.

Total drivel.

Calm down. It was an off the cuff remark after Thiago came out defending like a madman when we were well ahead. It wasn't an in depth tactical deconstruction of Thiago's weaknesses.

The context was also that Thiago comes on for a cameo to see out the game and makes some reckless challenge, which another poster alluded to a pattern of sometimes reckless and unnecessary challenges, albeit in a jovial sense. I attempted to continue this with a tongue-in-cheek comment about his can't defend and can't tackle observation - but It wasn't a in depth tactical analysis, just continuing some general chuckling and ribbing that we are up 4-1 or something but Thiago's sliding around like a desperate madman which seems hardly necessary - after all the last thing we need with our injuries and depleted midfield is for someone to be sent off or suspended for tackling in a game that we are already winning by a comfortable margin.

As for your statistics, well I won't dispute them, but I will point out that they are contingent on what role you play in the team, and what team you play for. For instance, Fabinho actually scores much lower in the metrics you have named, but I don't think anyone's calling him a worse defender than Thiago. Similarly, if you look at the full report that you attached, Thiago actually rates very mediocrely on being dribbled past and defending in our own defensive areas, but much better defending high up the pitch. There was also some statistics from previous seasons that Thiago actually averaged more fouls than completed tackles at one point. Thankfully that doesn't seem to have been replicated this season.

Anyway, good result for us and will be vary glad to see Thiago start the game against Man City.


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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6037 on: October 13, 2022, 12:18:39 am »
Was wound up on the sideline arguing with an official. Then came on and played like a madman. I was terrified he'd injure himself making unnecessary tackles.
Not criticisms though. I love the mad little bustard.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6038 on: October 13, 2022, 12:13:57 pm »
His perfect lob to Salah deserved a goal...

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Thiago Alcantara
« Reply #6039 on: October 14, 2022, 10:46:29 am »
He’s our best midfielder lol but he can’t run. If he can’t run, you need at least one that can do the running for him. Not sure why the coaching team haven’t seen that.

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