Author Topic: The Republic of Ireland Football Thread (Not A Home Nation) (Read 242727 times)

KERRYKOP · « **on:** August 29, 2012, 02:30:10 pm »

This is a thread for all the general matters of Irish football, such as the domestic league, Irish player watch abroad, FAI Politics and of course the collective unit of our international side and its underage setup. This thread is for strictly football.

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07/09/2012 Kazakhstan - Away - World Cup Qualifier
11/09/2012 Oman - London - Friendly
12/10/2012 Germany - Home - World Cup Qualifier
16/10/2012 Faroe Islands - Away - World Cup Qualifier

I'll get the ball rolling shall I? Good, Simon Cox banged in a cracker for Forest last night against Wigan, McClean was also on the scoresheet scoring two passed Morecombe

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PROPER crazyemlyn72 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2012, 08:36:44 pm »

and i'll help you keep it rolling. delaney is delusional. i'm sure you know he earns more than the italian and spanish CEOs COMBINED! wowser.

lets hope we get a result against kazahkstan, we need to get the feelgood factor back. were we crazy to believe we could have got out of our euro group? and finally i hope trapp plays players on merit, not loyalty. take chances on youngsters like.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2012, 09:00:43 pm »

Quote from: crazyemlyn72 on August 29, 2012, 08:36:44 pm

and i'll help you keep it rolling. delaney is delusional. i'm sure you know he earns more than the italian and spanish CEOs COMBINED! wowser.

He took a pay cut two weeks ago that equates to around the national average wage, lucky for him he still makes more than the Taoiseach.

Quote from: crazyemlyn72 on August 29, 2012, 08:36:44 pm

lets hope we get a result against kazahkstan, we need to get the feelgood factor back. were we crazy to believe we could have got out of our euro group? and finally i hope trapp plays players on merit, not loyalty. take chances on youngsters like.

Chances of qualifying second ahead of Swedan for the group are slim, for one thing they'll hammer us away and probably sneak a win at the Aviva, which of course will leave us fighting it out with Austria for third, not to confident about that either. The World Cup campaign should have one eye on qualifying for France 2016. That means bringing in new talent and from noises from Trap and Tardelli it will be more of the same, that means playing two up front and sticking to our uncreative, old fashioned and ultimately flawed defensive system. The FAI cant afford to sack him so a long drawn out affair and generally bad buzz end of an era vibe awaits.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2012, 09:49:02 pm »

McGeady's Spartak have just qualified for the Champions League

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2012, 11:30:13 pm »

Oman away should be good.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2012, 11:41:27 pm »

Quote from: Any which way I want as I know best on August 30, 2012, 11:30:13 pm

Oman away should be good.

A cracker, salivating at the thought of it.

Kilbane last night set one up and scored one in Coventry's 3-2 defeat of Birmingham

Walters scored a decent goal and added and assist as well Monday night against the might of Swinden

Wes Houlahan was on the score sheet as well creating and converting a penalty against the titans of Scunthorpe

Coleman set up one of the goals in Everton's drubbing of Layton Orient

On a bigger stage McGeady's Spartak were drawn in the same group as Celtic

E2K · « **Reply #6 on:** August 31, 2012, 02:30:26 pm »

Quote from: KERRYKOP on August 29, 2012, 09:00:43 pm

a long drawn out affair and generally bad buzz end of an era vibe awaits

My feeling as well. To be fair to Trap, he led us to our first major tournament in 10 years (some would say that this was as it should be given his wage) but I maintain that we could, and should, have topped our qualifying groups for both tournaments under his reign. That we didn't had a lot to do with useful players not being picked (World Cup) and negative tactics (World Cup, Euros). Italy and Bulgaria were poor teams - we drew with them 4 times, a potential eight points dropped. Henry's handball need never have happened. Slovakia were so good that Armenia beat them 4-0 in their own stadium - we drew with them twice. We went into those games with a preconceived notion of what constituted a good result. I think it cost us a place in South Africa and ensured that we needed the good fortune of drawing Estonia to make it to Poland and the Ukraine. People will say that we should be thankful for even making it to the Euros, and of course I was, it was a fantastic few weeks even considering the results. It's not about being ungrateful or getting ideas about our station, it's about getting the best out of the players at your disposal and, honestly, I don't think he's done that as well as he could have. But that's just my sense of it.

So what's the story with retirements? Given and Duff are gone, Keane and Dunne are still there, is that it? If so, nothing's really changed too much. Given was awful in the Euros and Duff's been average for a while. With the likes of McLean and Coleman coming through, we still have players who can do a good job for us but the problem isn't just the outdated, negative tatics of the manager but also the fact that this group is the hardest one we've had in Trap's time. I'd be shocked if we managed to get a point off Germany, and Sweden are usually consistent enough in qualifying campaigns. We should have been building for the future and developing new talent before now, in my view with a more progressive manager. I highly doubt we'll be celebrating qualification in November 2013 and it'll be interesting at that point to see how we're fixed for the 2016 qualifiers.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #7 on:** August 31, 2012, 11:15:17 pm »

Cheers for the post

Quote from: E2K on August 31, 2012, 02:30:26 pm

So what's the story with retirements? Given and Duff are gone, Keane and Dunne are still there, is that it?

Yup, of all them Keane needed to go the most, I love the guy, but he was truly appalling at the Euro's

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #8 on:** September 1, 2012, 05:30:44 pm »

Good and bad news today, bad news first Darren Gibson has pulled out of the Irish squad , sighting disillusionment after the performance at the Euros. Safe to say the real reason is because he doesnt fit into Traps plans and has said balls to the national side, disappointing that he wont stick it out, but you can still understand where he's coming from, this is another thing that will chip at Traps tenure in the job. Wexford man and Sunderland club man David Meyler will replace him.

The good news, Shane Long scored against Everton!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/shane-long-west-brom-1-0-v-everton/

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #9 on:** September 1, 2012, 05:32:11 pm »

Not interested in players who spend 90 minutes pointing, and shooting from 35 yards out.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #10 on:** September 1, 2012, 05:46:40 pm »

Quote from: Any which way I want as I know best on September 1, 2012, 05:32:11 pm

Not interested in players who spend 90 minutes pointing, and shooting from 35 yards out.

That would be all well in good if there were better players to replace him

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #11 on:** September 1, 2012, 05:47:16 pm »

Quote from: Any which way I want as I know best on September 1, 2012, 05:45:10 pm

Why do I need to, when Gibson has said his goodbyes?

Read it wrong, deleted.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #12 on:** September 1, 2012, 05:49:17 pm »

So how many minutes can McClean, Long and McCarthy look forward to during these qualifiers?

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #13 on:** September 1, 2012, 06:01:57 pm »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on September 1, 2012, 05:49:17 pm

So how many minutes can McClean, Long and McCarthy look forward to during these qualifiers?

I think he'll start McClean, he suits him, classic style winger that is decent defensively. With Long its hard to say, McCarthy hasnt a hope.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #14 on:** September 1, 2012, 06:12:28 pm »

Johnny Walters was on the scoresheet as well today converting a penalty

Heighwayondawing · « **Reply #15 on:** September 1, 2012, 08:50:06 pm »

Quote from: KERRYKOP on September 1, 2012, 05:30:44 pm

Good and bad news today, bad news first Darren Gibson has pulled out of the Irish squad , sighting disillusionment after the performance at the Euros. Safe to say the real reason is because he doesnt fit into Traps plans and has said balls to the national side, disappointing that he wont stick it out, but you can still understand where he's coming from, this is another thing that will chip at Traps tenure in the job. Wexford man and Sunderland club man David Meyler will replace him.

The good news, Shane Long scored against Everton!
http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/shane-long-west-brom-1-0-v-everton/

Still angry at him for his blatant diving displays vs Liverpool.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #16 on:** September 1, 2012, 09:05:14 pm »

Quote from: KERRYKOP on September 1, 2012, 06:12:28 pm

Johnny Walters was on the scoresheet as well today converting a penalty

Quality player.

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #17 on:** September 2, 2012, 01:19:39 am »

Will hope to put this up every week, see how it goes.

Shane Long (WEST BROMWICH ALBION 2 Everton 0)
Jon Walters (Wigan Athletic 2 STOKE CITY 2) (pen)
Andy Keogh (2) (MILLWALL 3 Middlesbrough 1)
Richard Keogh (DERBY COUNTY 5 Watford 1)
Jeff Hendrick (DERBY COUNTY 5 Watford 1)
Conor Sammon (DERBY COUNTY 5 Watford 1)
Stephen Quinn (HULL CITY 3 Bolton Wanderers 1)
Alan Judge (Bury 0 NOTTS COUNTY 2)
Jonathan Douglas (Walsall 2 BRENTFORD 2)
Michael Spillane (AFC Wimbledon 2 DAGENHAM & REDBRIDGE 2)
Padraig Amond (Cheltenham Town 0 ACCRINGTON STANLEY 3) (Rommy Boco also scored for Stanley)
Harry Crawford (3) (DARTFORD 5 Alfreton Town 1)
Andy Jackson (BRECHIN CITY 1 Alloa Athletic 3)
Gary Mulligan (BRACKLEY TOWN 3 Droylsden 2)

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #18 on:** September 6, 2012, 04:10:07 pm »

Irish XI vs Kazakhstan: Westwood, O’Shea, St. Ledger, O’Dea, Ward, Whelan, McCarthy, McGeady, Cox, Walters, Keane.

As expected no McClean or Long in the lineup, and you would have to expect baring a storming performance by McCarthy he'll be out for Andrews when he's back from suspension. A defeat tomorrow and the knives will well and truly be out, its going to be a long campaign.

Kick off in Astana tomorrow at 17:00

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #19 on:** September 6, 2012, 05:11:18 pm »

Who are Irish fans to give Trap grief?

Any fella that half knew what he was talking about could be a manager in the Airtricity League.

All Aboard, behind Trap!

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #20 on:** September 6, 2012, 05:50:45 pm »

Personally I think it needs a new voice and Trap needs to go gracefully, I wouldn't be shouting Trap out or any of that unhelpful bollox, I'll just wait for it to come to its naturally conclusion.

Heighwayondawing · « **Reply #21 on:** September 6, 2012, 05:54:41 pm »

Quote from: KERRYKOP on September 6, 2012, 05:50:45 pm

Personally I think it needs a new voice and Trap needs to go gracefully, I wouldn't be shouting Trap out or any of that unhelpful bollox, I'll just wait for it to come to its naturally conclusion.

Agreed

Aido LFC · « **Reply #22 on:** September 7, 2012, 04:59:48 pm »

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.....

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #23 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:41:08 pm »

Quote from: Aido LFC on September 7, 2012, 04:59:48 pm

Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.....

Certainly better than Ireland.

Waka · « **Reply #24 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:42:13 pm »

Criminal stuff

All you can do is laugh at such tripe

Aido LFC · « **Reply #25 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:45:33 pm »

We're so bad.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #26 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:46:24 pm »

Robbie Keane has no shame.

Plodding around there, while Long sits on the bench.

Outer Mongolian Red · « **Reply #27 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:49:40 pm »

This has been a disgraceful performance so far,stone age tactics.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #28 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:50:23 pm »

The ref must have enjoyed Borat.

Fucking dreadful performance from him so far.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #29 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:50:43 pm »

Quote from: Outer Mongolian Red on September 7, 2012, 05:49:40 pm

This has been a disgraceful performance so far,stone age tactics.

Aye, primitive stuff.

Lawnmowerman · « **Reply #30 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:50:51 pm »

Gross

anglelockgms · « **Reply #31 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:51:01 pm »

anyone got a link?

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #32 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:53:39 pm »

A sad state of affairs, hard to see us get two and we need two.

Why cant they try play the flanks for fuck sake, there's plenty of space in there. Kazakhstan are happy to line three big men back there and rebound the ball back after every hopeful punt, shocking stuff.

MaximTsigalko · « **Reply #33 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:53:59 pm »

Quote from: anglelockgms on September 7, 2012, 05:51:01 pm

anyone got a link?

You definitely don't want one...

Needs Long and McClean on, fully expect it to not happen. It'd also be nice to pass to McCarthy once in a while.

Anywhichwayicant · « **Reply #34 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:54:32 pm »

Oh well, there's always 2016.

Aido LFC · « **Reply #35 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:55:57 pm »

Just waiting for Dunphy at half time "We're out of this tournament baby"

KERRYKOP · « **Reply #36 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:57:09 pm »

Quote from: Aido LFC on September 7, 2012, 05:55:57 pm

Just waiting for Dunphy at half time "We're out of this tournament baby"

Richie's in for Eamo

Aido LFC · « **Reply #37 on:** September 7, 2012, 05:57:22 pm »

Thought he was there

Red_Irishman · « **Reply #38 on:** September 7, 2012, 06:07:01 pm »

RTE panel coming out with some crackers there...

"Caveman Football"

"it is Very Depressing indeed"

paulrazor · « **Reply #39 on:** September 7, 2012, 06:13:19 pm »

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/139378/1/watch-fifa-wc-qualifying:-kazakhstan-vs-ireland.html