Topic: CPS Announce Hillsborough Charging Decisions

[SP]

Looking for some advice here, can we comment on this on social media, but not name names, alleged happenings ect - don't want to prejudice anything? I am flabbergasted that only six people have a case to answer

There are further investigations ongoing that may lead to further charges.

I would just steer clear of commenting in anything other than the most superficial terms. You can share newspaper reports of the proceedings quite safely. 

If they are convicted, you can be as rude as you like about them. It is just a little more time to wait.

[Crosby Nick]

I appreciate this may be a very 'how long's a piece of string' question but do we know when the trials may be and how long they might last? Will they take place at the same time or is each individual/offence treated separately?

[Millie]

Frustrating not to be able to say what I really feel and think.  I understand why but so frustrating.

[FlashingBlade]

I think its ok to say ( ?) respect to the investigating officers for their hard work and dilligence to get  to this stage and to those who gave evidence/interviewed by them.

[KillieRed]

On the surface it looks like (another) good start towards justice.

[SP]

Frustrating not to be able to say what I really feel and think.  I understand why but so frustrating.

Say it, PM it, just don't post it publicly. You can be as rude as you like about them in your home, just don't post it online. Yet.

[Ozzie Red]

ok understand, happy for the families at least something positive, I will leave it there

[itsalltosh]

JFT96 (that is all....)

[mersey_paradiso]

Good news, another step up the hill to justice.

Thoughts with the families and friends of the 96 and everyone who was affected by that day.

[Titi Camara]

My thoughts are with those affected. One step closer to justice and accountability.

JFT96 YNWA

[LiverpoolKopKings]

Anything on those that accused others claiming "The Truth"?

[Ray K]

CPS basically saying that the SY Ambulance Service and Sheffield Wednesday FC would have been charged with health & safety offences but for the fact that the current organisations are legally not successor organisations to those that existed in 1989:

The CPS has explained that Sheffield Wednesday PLC is the legal entity, existing only on paper, which was Sheffield Wednesday Football Club in 1989.

Ms Hemmings says that Sheffield Wednesday Football Club as it exists today is a “different company” and as it is not a successor organisation, is not criminally liable for any offences that might have been committed.

Ms Hemmings’ statement adds: “Operation Resolve took action to preserve the paper company at the outset of the investigation so that a full investigation could take place.

“There are no longer any directors or other individuals who form the company and therefore no-one who could represent it in the dock, give instructions to answer any criminal charge or enter a plea.

“Even if the company were to be found guilty in those circumstances, there could be no penalty as it does not have any assets with which to pay a fine and no-one else liable to pay it. As a consequence, whilst I have concluded that there is sufficient evidence for a health and safety offence, it is not in the public interest to prosecute now.”

“We considered the actions of the South Yorkshire Metropolitan Ambulance Service, which has been criticised for its failure to respond adequately to the unfolding disaster.

“It is clear that SYMAS was a service supplied by the Trent Regional Health Authority (TRHA) rather than a legal entity itself. The TRHA ceased to exist when its responsibilities were transferred. However, criminal liability was not transferred to the successor organisations, so there is no body, corporate or incorporate, which can now be prosecuted even if liability could be proven.”

[ChaChaMooMoo]

Don't really have anything to say. Justice for the 96.

[SA800]

Didn't think this day would come

[Big Red Richie]

Glad to finally see some in court facing charges.

Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.

[Livid]

Haven't logged in here for years.
Wanted to today to say I hope justice is served however late it may be.
JFT96

[Dougle]

Good. My thoughts are with of all those affected again today.

[Chakan]

Good.

[mike777]

play safe lock this thread now and DONT put anything on any social media.

Have to say this is my view as well that the RAWK mods should play safe.
We don't want any arguments at trial about prejudice to the trials after all we've been through.

[BabuYagu]

I always assumed that some employees from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.

[So… Howard Philips]

I always assumed that journalists from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.

Probably not as they could argue that they were relying on information received. But best not to go into detail.

[Ozzie Red]

Glad to finally see some in court facing charges.

Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.

sorry couldn't help myself, Totally agree, while it might not exist "on paper" anymore I am sure the people involved or at least some of them do, and what about Tony Bland's family, not happy

[sms1986]

I always assumed that some employees from a specific rag had colluded to pervert the course of justice and would face charges? Was I wrong in my assumption and therefore they will not be pursued, or do they face separate investigation and changes as they were not public servants at the time?

EDIT:- Oh and this is fantastic news. Well in. JFT96.

There's further investigations ongoing, so more charges might follow.

[kesey]

Great news.

Iam expecting a phone call off our kid right now.

This one is for you Al.

[AndyInVA]

Six people charged. Including Bettison.

Amazed. Relief. Vindication.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/28/hillsborough-six-suspects-face-criminal-charges-disaster-prosecutors/

[BabuYagu]

There's further investigations ongoing, so more charges might follow.

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Motty]

Chuffing brilliant news, unfortunately it's not more though.

[SugarHoneyIceTea]

Brilliant news this. I hope they get what they deserve!

[So… Howard Philips]

sorry couldn't help myself, Totally agree, while it might not exist "on paper" anymore I am sure the people involved or at least some of them do, and what about Tony Bland's family, not happy

The full CPS release details the reasons why action wasn't or in Tony Bland's case, couldn't, be taken.

[Mark Walters]

Disappointed to see Sheffield Wednesday, and the Football Association walking away scot free.

The FA in particular!

JFT96

[SpionBob]

Further progress on the long road to justice. I'll say more when this is finally all over (if it ever truly is all over).

[Antoine Lavoisier]

We climbed the hill in our own way!

JFT96!

Justice!

[Big Red Richie]

A large sense of relief and justification right now, but lets temper that with a bit of caution.

Charged, does  not necessarily mean convicted.


There's a fair way to go yet.


JF96.

[Ozzie Red]

The full CPS release details the reasons why action wasn't or in Tony Bland's case, couldn't, be taken.

I know, 1 year ect, that law needs to be looked at, i.e. did anything else other than his being at Hillsborough cause this?

[Mr Kipling]

Finally

JFT96

[Betty Blue]

Great day for Liverpool. Wish my old man could've seen this day.

For anyone worried about what can't be said online -

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/hillsborough-charges-not-give-suspects-13250526

[So… Howard Philips]

I know, 1 year ect, that law needs to be looked at, i.e. did anything else other than his being at Hillsborough cause this?

The rule was abolished in 1996 by the Law Reform (Year and a day rule) Act 1996.

[DangerScouse]

The start of a new chapter. Here's hoping there's an ending the families and survivor's will be satisfied with.

[rob1966]

I appreciate this may be a very 'how long's a piece of string' question but do we know when the trials may be and how long they might last? Will they take place at the same time or is each individual/offence treated separately?

All but Duckinfield will appear at Warrington Magistrates Court on 9th August according to the report on the BBC - no mention on when Duckinfield is due to appear in court. We should get a better understanding then of how it will proceed.

Thoughts today are with the families and survivors.

[JoeH]

Believe it when they are behind bars, watch all the lies come out again. Also how many will suddenly become "Ill health" due to age?  place your bets.