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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #120 on: June 24, 2002, 05:31:36 pm »
People have mentioned him in the hole behind 2 strikers(Owen, Heskey) but I cant see that. We had the perfect player for that last season in Litmanen and we never changed our system.

4-4-2 with him being rotated I reckon, we may get odd glimpses of all 3 of them on at once, we'll see.....
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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #121 on: June 24, 2002, 06:19:17 pm »
I hate to break this news to Jari fans..but he's slow and a defensive liability. That's the reason he doesn't play behind the front two and was mainly used as a secondary striker.

Ged demands that midfielders cover defensively. Which is why we may not see out and out wingers unless they track back. That's why Riise gets as much playing time as he does. He can track back. It's why Berger, Smicer and Baros don't get much playing time.

Play Jari behind the front two and it creates defensive gaps decent sides can take advantage of and create offensive chances. Ged prefers a defensive counter attacking system. If an offensive player thinke he can hang around the halfway line and wait for service, they'll be on the bench. Which is why Ged has Heskey track back or play left side midfield. He'll work his bollocks off.

Jari may have the footballing brain and excellent passing ability, but he won't be used except in spot situations..

That's football under Ged.......
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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #122 on: June 24, 2002, 08:06:47 pm »
4pool, that has been the deal so far. :( That's also, at least IMO, why we have struggled against the sides that sit back and defend. Everyone seems to have defensive responsibilities, but when it comes to attacking...??? ? That's why attacking players like Smicer rarely gets a chance to shine and why Jari is warming the bench. I just don't get it.

We've got a great goalie, a very solid back 4 and we could even play with 3 midfielders that do the box-to-box or defensive work. 8 should be enough for God's sake! Surely there has to be room for ONE midfielder who doesn't have to track back and chase the ball most of his time?

I wonder how Diouf is going to react if he has to defend a lot?

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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #123 on: June 24, 2002, 08:41:42 pm »

I wonder how Diouf is going to react if he has to defend a lot?
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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #124 on: June 25, 2002, 11:26:13 am »
Much as I love Mr. Mullett he just doesn't fit in at Liverpool and he should go an play somewhere he'd fit in better.

Our game is all about pace and power. Every player in the team from midfield forward has to fit in with that. Jari doesn't...

However EHD ... "pace", "power", "skill", "on the right, on the left, through the middle", "just behind the front two"...

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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #125 on: June 25, 2002, 02:07:35 pm »

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Re:El Hadji Diouf - Observer article
« Reply #126 on: June 26, 2002, 03:52:52 am »
EHD has the goods but whether the attitude remains to be seen.  The one advantage over Anelka is there's much less risk on his resale value.

Still, very exciting for LFC.  Can't wait for new season to begin!

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Re:Diouf Deal NOT done according to BBC (who claim LFC said so)
« Reply #128 on: June 26, 2002, 10:41:48 am »
Still, doesnt look like to much to worry about there

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Re:Diouf signs five year deal
« Reply #130 on: July 16, 2002, 03:33:10 pm »
yay! ;D

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Re:Diouf signs five year deal
« Reply #131 on: July 16, 2002, 03:35:49 pm »
ooooo smashing.

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Re:Diouf signs five year deal
« Reply #132 on: July 16, 2002, 09:35:28 pm »
Good cos ive got him on the Shirt, now im praying he'll be #9

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Re:Diouf signs five year deal
« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2002, 02:30:05 pm »
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N135705020717-1401.htm

Good lad, he already likes liverpool.

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Re:Diouf signs five year deal
« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2002, 02:47:47 pm »
blimey, great attitude already.

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Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #135 on: August 19, 2002, 03:20:42 am »
Looking back the last 7 or so years, when players come into the EPL, they have a hard time adjusting to the 'style' of the referee'ing. One can look at Anelka, Petit, Vieira, Henry, Hasselbaink, Ginola,  di Canio, and others.

With the referee's now 'professional' they meet each week. This means that they will confer and 'word' will get around about Diouf's tricks and his whinging.

Is there a worry it will effect EHD to the point that he gets in more trouble and gets unneccessary yellows or heaven forbid a red?

I think Houllier has done an excellent job of calming down Murphy and Gerrard as they've had their problems in the past. Ged takes on board a players mental state as well as his physical before bringing them into the side.

We can blame D'Orso today but remember these Ref's all go to school together... ::)

Anyone else have some thoughts about this..
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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #136 on: August 20, 2002, 08:16:20 am »
Diouf will have to learn and learn quickly. If not, defenders will continue to kick him rather than the ball and I reckon they will get away with it.

He can't claim to be fauled every time and he looked more quiet in 2nd half vs Villa. I hope he won't do too much of his artistic falling either. Alright if he falls (as defenders will kick him down a few hundred times this season :( ), but no need to roll around.

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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2002, 11:21:09 am »
You know Houllier always says it`s always good to have lots of alternatives, Diouf is a talented boy he`ll learn quickly and I think he`ll achive great things with us

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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2002, 11:25:54 am »
But compare and contrast with JAR at Cardiff in the Comedy Shield ... never been prouder of a red than when he got twatted, fell over, ref starts waving on the trainer ... but JAR got straight up and got on with it, made the ref, and all diving twats (like Viera) look stooooooopeeeeeeeeed.

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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #139 on: August 20, 2002, 11:29:45 am »

Diouf will have to learn and learn quickly. If not, defenders will continue to kick him rather than the ball and I reckon they will get away with it.


from the commentary on the radio, the second half he didn't dive or complain as much?

if true, that's pretty quick learnin'!

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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #140 on: August 20, 2002, 11:19:35 pm »
I read where Houllier kept Cheyrou on the bench so he could see how the Ref's do a match. He also has been quoted as saying if Diouf were English he wouldn't have the same reputation..

So it seems that le Boss and i are in agreement.. :o
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Re:Diouf..is there a worry...
« Reply #141 on: August 21, 2002, 10:59:18 pm »
No worries what so ever.

you can bet your bottom dollar the boys in the backroom will have spoken to Diouf and told him what to do and what to expect.
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So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #142 on: August 24, 2002, 04:16:16 pm »
"Like a fox in a hen house" is how the bloke on ITV's Goalrush described him. Suits me.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #143 on: August 24, 2002, 04:31:49 pm »
"That bloke" is barry vennison - he used to play for Liverpool you know.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #144 on: August 24, 2002, 04:49:17 pm »
well im very sorry, I dont remember players who played before I was born.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #145 on: August 24, 2002, 05:26:50 pm »
I think books were invented before you were born as well  ;D

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #146 on: August 24, 2002, 05:42:11 pm »

well im very sorry, I dont remember players who played before I was born.


how old are you??

venison played in the late 80's and early 90's!!!

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #147 on: August 24, 2002, 05:45:44 pm »
Barry Venison   :  Left Back (1986-1992)
Date of Birth: 16-08-1964
Debut: 16th August 1986 v Everton (N) Charity Shield: drew 1-1
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Birth Place: Consett

Barry left us in 92.. so that makes you 10 years old.......judging by the evidence..i would say your a little immature for ten. more like nine and three quarters.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #148 on: August 24, 2002, 06:02:06 pm »
oh fuck off lord of the ring.

I didnt exactly memorise the squad when I was 10 you wanker.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #149 on: August 24, 2002, 06:23:38 pm »
so your 22 now?.....why you worried about getting ID'd in pubs?.......you'd want to keep a closer eye on what you type...or better still..stop fucking typing.......cough cough glory hunter splutter...sorry i had something in my throat.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #150 on: August 24, 2002, 06:32:16 pm »

Back to the original topic

Hands up who had doubts about El Hadji !!

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #151 on: August 24, 2002, 06:47:32 pm »
GH singled out Heskey in the interview - http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/38215000/rm/_38215408_houiller.ram - I've yet to see anything on TV but could this address our perceived width problems??
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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #152 on: August 24, 2002, 07:07:38 pm »
LOTR - im 17! dont know where you got 22 from.

I was 7 years old when he went. I didnt pay attention to football when I was 7. My first game was when I was 10 at Southampton.

Barney Rubble, there was a few kinda things goin round about him, ppl sayin he goes over too easily.
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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #153 on: August 24, 2002, 07:10:08 pm »
The options we have up front now. I'm buzzin'. We could do some serious damage this season ...

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #154 on: August 24, 2002, 07:12:20 pm »
yeah, well class. Hope michael can hook up with diouf as well as heskey.

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Re:So Diouf answers any doubts
« Reply #155 on: August 24, 2002, 08:35:08 pm »
Heskey certainly looks like he's hooked up with Diouf. I think Diouf is trying hard to hook up with Michael; I saw a couple of terrific flicks directed at Michael from EH; their connection will need some fine tuning, but it's surely on its way.

Anthony, you're probaly right about Heskey and width; that first goal certainly showed Emile can be a winger, but let's wait and see for a few matches. We would still need someone on the right.  In any case, that will silence a few of his critics who expect him to score and do nothing else when he plays up-front.

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Deadly Diouf Backed By Saints Stopper
« Reply #156 on: August 25, 2002, 09:41:43 pm »
Senegal sensation El Hadji Diouf has been labelled the 'extra special ingredient' that could make Liverpool champions.

And the £10million new boy - who grabbed two goals on his Anfield league debut on Saturday - insists he can blast 15 plus this term.

Southampton's Norwegian defender Claus Lundekvam was part of a mean Saints defence last season that helped take four points from Liverpool and restricted them to just one goal.

Now Lundekvam, who could be out for several weeks after being forced off late in the first half at Anfield with a hamstring injury, reckons Diouf could be the difference between winning the title or not for Gerard Houllier's side.

He said: "We took four points from Liverpool last season, winning 2-0 at our place and drawing 1-1 at Anfield. We didn't give them much then.

"Now from what I've seen of Diouf he could be that little difference, that something extra that could turn them into champions."

Diouf got a standing ovation when he came off with 10 minutes left, already a new hero of the Kop.

He said: "I got goose pimples when I went off at the end. It was a great moment for me and I must thank the fans for that reception. It meant a great deal.

"It was a wonderful debut for me and to score two goals was just a dream."

And Diouf added: "The most important thing is the team being successful, but if I score goals as well then that's great. I would like to score at least 15 in the league before the end of the season, but I'd also like to create as many goals as I can as well.

"I get as much satisfaction out of making goals as I do out of scoring them. This was a good day for me and a good day for the team. Hopefully it will be the first of many."

Diouf's double and a late Danny Murphy penalty, made Liverpool one of only two 100Premiership clubs, the other being leaders Leeds.

And the African player of the year added: "It was an important result for us and to have started the season with two wins is very good.

"It gives us something to build on and we can go on from here now and hopefully pick up another three points at Blackburn on Wednesday."

Lundekvam has few doubts about Liverpool's new young star.

He added: "El Hadji is a good player with excellent technique. He's sharp and he works hard. He's also pretty quick so he's already a good asset for Liverpool.

"We have had to contend with Owen and Heskey up front, now they've got another one. Liverpool seem to have attacking players from all positions.

"He drops short to receive the ball, and he can spin behind you as well, you don't really know where he is.

"He's settled into English football very quickly, after just three matches he looks very comfortable already. But then good players do find that settling into different leagues and countries comes easily."

Last weekend at Aston Villa, Diouf kept Emile Heskey on the bench. This time Heskey was utilised on the left of midfield, often breaking midfield to create a three-man front line that can do damage to better teams than Saints.

Houllier said: "Emile is a very big part of my plans and I was pleased for him because he contributed to both goals and he is the one who is helping El Hadji to settle into the team, he has befriended him and helps him mix with the other lads.

"That team spirit has contributed to him scoring two very good goals. Diouf is not only a great lad he's a great player. He mixes well with the other players, and it is good to have him around Heskey because it's Emile who is helping him settle into the team."

For Southampton boss Gordon Strachan there was an honest admittance that skill and class ruled the day.

He said: "Their first goal was down to human error, you can't legislate for players who fall on their backside in the first couple of minutes.

"But we fought back, we created space and the midfield players and full-backs did very well to carry the game to Liverpool. But from 30 yards out we were toothless, and that's our problem.

"We got to half-time without any further mishap and then conceded another goal very quickly after the break from a long throw, which annoyed me.

"From then on there wasn't much we could do, and then we let them have another right at the end and the score looks unfair to us.

"Sometimes people don't have enough ability, sometimes it's bad luck. But you seem to find that good players have less bad luck when they are playing."

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« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2002, 08:33:14 pm »
This guy is class and I honestly think he will become better than Ronaldo.Some of the things he does are amzing.
Thierry who?

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« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2002, 08:47:03 pm »
Would that be the Thierry Who, who helped Arsenal win the double last season.

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