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« Reply #58240 on: October 9, 2019, 02:49:31 pm »
Trump is forcing them to ask: "Do we have a king or a president?".
Seems more like a choice between a tyrant and a despot.

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« Reply #58241 on: October 9, 2019, 09:14:12 pm »
Funnily enough the background theme of growing wealth inequality isn't too different either.  Wealth and land being concentrated in the hands of the few.  Slaves (automation & outsourcing) disrupting employment. 

Hey Trump has even been creating his own proscription list.  Very "fall of the republic".  Though it's probably a great disservice to the senators of the late republic to compare them to the likes of Trump.

Making my way through his podcast series on rome(superb listen¡) and I'm constantly struck at the parallels with the rise of modern populists and Caesar. First as tradegy then as farce eh!

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« Reply #58242 on: October 9, 2019, 10:12:08 pm »
Democratic presidential hopeful Biden urges Trump impeachment

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Former US Vice-President Joe Biden has made his first call for President Donald Trump's impeachment.

The Democratic front-runner in the 2020 presidential race told a rally that Mr Trump had "violated his oath of office" and "committed impeachable acts".

Democrats have launched an impeachment inquiry over claims that Mr Trump illegally pressured a foreign leader to investigate Mr Biden and his son.

Mr Trump denies wrongdoing and has dismissed the probe as a "witch hunt".

On Tuesday the White House said it would not co-operate, arguing that the proceedings were unconstitutional.

Addressing supporters in New Hampshire on Wednesday, Mr Biden said: "President Trump has indicted himself by obstructing justice, refusing to comply with a congressional inquiry. He's already convicted himself."

It was his most forceful response to date.

Previously, the former vice-president had only gone so far as to back an inquiry to gather the facts, even as his top Democratic rivals were calling for impeachment.

Shortly after Mr Biden spoke, Mr Trump hit back at "Sleepy Joe Biden" and his "failing campaign".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49991748

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« Reply #58243 on: October 9, 2019, 10:18:46 pm »
Russian trolls' chief target was 'black US voters' in 2016

A Senate inquiry has concluded that a Russian fake-news campaign targeted "no single group... more than African-Americans."

It says Russian operatives used social media to deter black people from voting and planted subtly racist content to incite conflict between ethnicities.

The report comes two years into the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into the 2016 election.

Social media firms say they are trying to prevent it from happening again.

Thousands of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and You Tube accounts created by the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency (IRA) were aimed at harming Hillary Clinton's campaign and supporting Donald Trump, the committee concludes.

More than 66% of Facebook adverts posted by the Russian troll farm contained a term related to race.

African-American community voters were discouraged from voting, and from supporting Hillary Clinton.

Posts with the titles "Our Votes Don't Matter," "Don't Vote for Hillary Clinton" and "A Vote for Jill Stein is Not a Wasted Vote" were specifically targeted at black voters, the report says.

An Oxford study cited in the Senate report captures several pictures of Facebook and Instagram posts which it says were created by the Russian operatives.

Oxford's Computational Propaganda Research Project includes pictures of posts which Russian operatives posted on Facebook and Instagram.

In these posts, operatives were told to avoid racial slurs but still post racist content, the report says, in order to evade the attention of social media monitors and not have their ads taken down.

IRA posts like this one, which pictured the confederate flag and included issues connected with the political argument about gun ownership, were meant to create conflict on social media, the report says.

The Senate intelligence report says posts were aimed at making Americans suspicious of one another, and of the US government.

Russian ads aimed at African-Americans mimicked social justice movements that were already active in the black community, and tried to create a negative response from other US ethnic groups, the report says.

The Black Matters Facebook page, created by Russian operatives, was meant to imitate the Black Lives Matters movement, which campaigned against racism.

One of the Black Matters posts, pictured above, advertised a rally for Eric Garner, who was put by police in a chokehold before he died in custody.

Daniel Pantaleo, the policeman involved, lost his job but was not criminally charged.

Garner's dying words "I can't breathe" became a rallying cry for protests against police brutality.

Other IRA ads and social media did not contain any political content at all. They were meant to go viral and gain followers.

This post by IRA account @blackstagram_ _ used a picture of a prominent social media influencer, Janee Allure. It received 111,102 likes with the hashtags, #blackexcellence and #blackgirlmagic.

Another image posted on Instagram featured a young girl in a rainbow dress with hashtags that mentioned community pride and Black History Month. It was shared 168,998 times.

Facebook users engaged 11.2 million times with a top-performing page, "Blacktivist", which was created by the Russian agency.

Almost 100% of its YouTube content involved videos of violence perpetrated against African-American men, says the report.

Alleged police brutality against African-Americans featured on Blacktivist video and Instagram posts as well as news stories with racial undertones, like the NFL kneeling protests.

Facebook says it has doubled the number of people working on safety and security, and just last month met several government agencies including the FBI, as well as academics, to prevent Russian influence in the 2020 elections.

The social media site says it takes down millions of fake accounts a day, and has improved its response results across all of its teams.

"We have stepped up our efforts to build strong defences on multiple fronts...We have also invested in technology and people to block and remove fake accounts; find and remove co-ordinated manipulation campaigns; and bring unprecedented transparency to political advertising." Facebook said.

Google said: "Videos on YouTube are viewable by anyone. Users can create videos intended for certain audiences, but there is no way to target by race".

Twitter said that it received no information from the US government before the 2016 election about a state-sponsored operation.

Since "discovering the issue," a spokeswoman from Twitter said it was working with law enforcement and the FBI as well as the Department of Homeland Security, and had conducted a public investigation into the events of 2016.

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« Reply #58244 on: October 9, 2019, 10:20:15 pm »


And in video form:
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1182037763648036867

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« Reply #58245 on: October 9, 2019, 10:21:51 pm »
Making my way through his podcast series on rome(superb listen¡) and I'm constantly struck at the parallels with the rise of modern populists and Caesar. First as tradegy then as farce eh!

All these Roman analogies just make me imagine how Trump would manage Latin grammar. "Ego no... es una pupae... Vobis, er, sum... pupa..."

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« Reply #58246 on: October 9, 2019, 10:37:03 pm »

“Do not intermingle with people who act like 'they know it all'. If you do, you will wind up as lost and lonely as they are.”
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« Reply #58247 on: October 9, 2019, 10:53:57 pm »
Harry Dunn crash: Mum appeals for US suspect's return

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49945461

Harry Dunn crash: Parents 'let down' by UK and US governments

The family at the centre of a row over diplomatic immunity after their son died in a car crash described a meeting with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab as feeling like a "publicity stunt".

Harry Dunn, 19, died in a crash with a Volvo in Northamptonshire on 27 August.

American diplomat's wife Anne Sacoolas, suspected of driving the other vehicle, later left the UK to return to the US.

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson has spoken to President Trump who told a press briefing Harry's death was a "terrible accident".

Police have said CCTV of the crash which killed the teenager shows the Volvo travelling on the wrong side of the road.

Speaking after his conversation with the prime minister, President Trump said: "The woman was driving on the wrong side of the road, and that can happen.

"You know, those are the opposite roads, that happens. I won't say it ever happened to me, but it did.

"So a young man was killed, the person that was driving the automobile has diplomatic immunity, we're going to speak to her very shortly and see if we can do something where they meet.

"It was an accident, it was a terrible accident."

After meeting the foreign secretary, Harry's mother Charlotte Charles said she felt "let down" by both the UK and US governments.

She said: "I can't really see the point as to why we were invited to see Dominic Raab. We are no further forward than where we were this time last week.

"Part of me is feeling like it was just a publicity stunt on the UK Government side to show they are trying to help.

"But, although he is engaging with us, we have no answers. We are really frustrated that we could spend half an hour or more with him and just come out with nothing."

Together with Harry's father Tim Dunn, she met Mr Raab in the hope he would urge the US to waive Ms Sacoolas' diplomatic immunity.

Mr Dunn said: "I felt extremely let down by the Government today, or by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

"I'm deeply, deeply disappointed that they think it's okay to kill a young lad on his bike and they can just walk away.

"I don't think the government or the Commonwealth Office have any clout to do anything."

Number 10 said the Prime Minister urged US President Donald Trump to reconsider its decision to allow Ms Sacoolas immunity so "the individual involved can return to the UK, cooperate with police and allow Harry's family to receive justice".

Downing Street said the "leaders agreed to work together to find a way forward as soon as possible" during their conversation on Wednesday evening.

Following the meeting with Harry's parents, the foreign secretary said: "I share the frustration of Harry's mother and father.

"They have lost their son and the justice process is not being allowed to properly run its course."

Meanwhile, Ms Charles urged Ms Sacoolas to do the "humane thing to do and get on a plane and come back".

Their lawyer Radd Seiger said they were in talks to launch a civil case against Ms Sacoolas and they were "going to Washington soon to help us get that justice for Harry".

He also invited the US President to meet the family about the case.

"If meeting with President Trump would help us get a step closer to seek justice for Harry, to get justice for that boy who died that night needlessly, one of the most wonderful kids in our community, if that's what it takes then I will extend an invitation now to President Trump.

"Meet us. Let's have a chat. Nobody wants to litigate."

Mr Johnson had already urged the US to reconsider its decision to allow Ms Sacoolas immunity, while Mr Raab has previously spoken to the US ambassador and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Northamptonshire's chief constable and its police and crime commissioner have also urged the Americans to waive Ms Sacoolas's diplomatic immunity.

About 23,000 individuals in the UK have diplomatic immunity, a status reserved for foreign diplomats and their families, as long as they don't have British citizenship.

It is granted by the 1961 Vienna Convention and means that, in theory, diplomats cannot face court proceedings for any crime or civil case.

The convention also states that those entitled to immunity are expected to obey the law.

Where crimes are committed, the Foreign Office can ask a foreign government to waive immunity where they feel it is appropriate.

Diplomatic immunity is by no means restricted to those named on the Diplomatic List from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

Drivers, cooks and other support staff whose names do not appear, but have been accredited to Britain ("the receiving state") have the same diplomatic status and immunity as those who are listed.

Equally, there are a number of foreign nationals in Britain attached to international organizations who have the same status and protection.

Harry Dunn died after his Kawasaki motorcycle was in a crash with a black Volvo XC90 in Croughton, close to an RAF base.

He was taken to Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford where he died.

Chief Constable Nick Adderley said "based on CCTV evidence", officers knew that "a vehicle alighted from the RAF base at Croughton" and was "on the wrong side of the road".

He said the suspect, Ms Sacoolas, had "engaged fully" following the crash and said "she had no plans to leave the country in the near future".

However, she then left for the United States and has not returned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49986700

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« Reply #58248 on: October 9, 2019, 11:07:53 pm »
Speaking after his conversation with the prime minister, President Trump said: "The woman was driving on the wrong side of the road, and that can happen.

"You know, those are the opposite roads, that happens. I won't say it ever happened to me, but it did."
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« Reply #58249 on: October 9, 2019, 11:20:32 pm »
Making my way through his podcast series on rome(superb listen¡) and I'm constantly struck at the parallels with the rise of modern populists and Caesar. First as tradegy then as farce eh!

The History of Rome podcast, so so good
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« Reply #58250 on: October 10, 2019, 01:09:34 am »
FOX News
Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
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2 hrs ago


Just over half of voters want President Trump impeached and removed from office, according to a Fox News Poll released Wednesday.

A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment.

Since July, support for impeachment increased among voters of all stripes: up 11 points among Democrats, 5 points among Republicans, and 3 among independents. Support also went up among some of Trump’s key constituencies, including white evangelical Christians (+5 points), white men without a college degree (+8), and rural whites (+10).

Among voters in swing counties (where Hillary Clinton and Trump were within 10 points in 2016), support for impeachment increased to 52 percent, up from 42 percent in July.

A lot has happened since the July Fox poll on impeachment -- namely, the launch of an impeachment inquiry in the House following allegations Trump improperly pressured Ukraine to investigate the Bidens’ dealings in that country. The 9-point increase in support for impeachment since July, however, doesn’t appear to be based solely on the latest allegations. To that point, more Democrats favor impeaching Trump (85 percent) than consider his call with Ukraine’s president an impeachable offense (76 percent). The same holds true among independents: 39 percent favor impeachment, while 30 percent describe the Ukraine call as impeachable.

The 4-in-10 voters opposing impeachment give a variety of reasons, including: Trump did nothing wrong (21 percent), it is politically motivated (20 percent), and don’t believe allegations (15 percent).

Approval of Trump’s job performance is down a couple points to 43 percent, while 55 percent disapprove. Last month, it was 45-54 percent.  Currently, 86 percent of Republicans approve compared to 89 percent in September.

Some 51 percent of voters think the Trump administration is more corrupt than previous administrations, up from 46 percent last month.

By a 66-25 percent margin, voters say it is generally inappropriate for Trump to ask foreign leaders to investigate political rivals.

When asked about Trump’s phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart that is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry, 17 percent believe it was appropriate. Most either describe it as an impeachable offense (43 percent) or as inappropriate but not impeachable (27 percent).

Trump has called the Ukraine phone call “perfect.” Even some Republicans aren’t convinced: 9 percent say it was an impeachable offense, 38 percent inappropriate but not impeachable, and 36 percent appropriate.

Overall, by an 11-point margin, more voters believe Trump is “getting what he deserves” rather than that the impeachment inquiry is driven by “people out to get him.”

During President Bill Clinton’s 1998 impeachment, by a 3-point margin, more thought “people were out to get” him than believed Clinton was “getting what he deserved.”

Meanwhile, voters think President Trump is just out for himself. Fifty-five percent overall and 18 percent of Republicans say he is doing what’s best for Trump. Thirty-nine percent think he puts the country first.

Thirty-eight percent find the situation surrounding Trump’s dealings with Ukraine extremely troubling, while 19 percent say the same about the allegations about Biden and his son’s business dealings in Ukraine.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s personal favorability rating is under water by 6 points (42 percent favorable vs. 48 percent unfavorable). Still, that’s a new high, and gives her the highest favorable rating of Capitol Hill leadership tested in the poll.

House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) is also viewed more negatively than positively by 6 points (27-33), although 4 voters in 10 are unable to rate him.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is in negative territory by 23 points (26-49) and 25 percent can’t rate him. Voters have a negative view of both Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani by 22 points (31-53) and Attorney General William Barr by 14 points (24-38).

Trump’s popularity ticked up a point since the inquiry: 43-56 percent vs. 42-56 percent in August.

Hillary Clinton’s ratings roughly match Trump’s:  41 percent favorable, 54 percent unfavorable. The previous Fox News poll showed her at 40-57 percent in June 2017.

Vice President Mike Pence stands at 40-49 percent compared to 39-48 percent two months ago.

Trump has an 84 percent favorable among Republicans compared to 70 percent for Pence and 43 percent for McConnell, while 69 percent of Democrats have a favorable view of Pelosi.

More have a positive rather than a negative view of the Democratic Party by 2 points (49 favorable vs. 47 unfavorable), while the Republican Party is under water by 15 (40-55).  Part of that is explained by more Democrats (85 percent favorable) viewing their party positively than Republicans do theirs (79 percent favorable).

Voters are inclined to see the motives of Republican lawmakers as more political. By a 3-point margin, more think congressional Democrats truly believe Trump committed an impeachable offense than say Democrats just want to hurt him politically.

On the other side, by a 23-point margin, more think congressional Republicans just want to protect Trump politically than say GOP lawmakers sincerely believe what he did is not impeachable.

Overall, voters remain dissatisfied with the job Congress is doing: 21 percent approve, while 63 percent disapprove.  In May, it was 21-66 percent.

Conducted October 6-8, 2019 under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) and Shaw & Company (R), this Fox News Poll includes interviews with 1,003 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide who spoke with live interviewers on both landlines and cellphones. The poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points for all registered voters.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment/ar-AAIxxhs?ocid=spartandhp
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« Reply #58251 on: October 10, 2019, 01:57:37 am »


And in video form:
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1182037763648036867

Really makes you think. Specifically it makes you think 'He's dumber than my stupid dumb cat, and he's been dead 7 years'.

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« Reply #58252 on: October 10, 2019, 02:23:18 am »


And in video form:
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/1182037763648036867

Really makes you think. Specifically it makes you think 'He's dumber than my stupid dumb cat, and he's been dead 7 years'.

Where were the South Korean's and the Japanese during Normandy?
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« Reply #58253 on: October 10, 2019, 02:27:29 am »
Where were the South Korean's and the Japanese during Normandy?

Don’t even bother mate, seriously it’ll do your head in.

Has to be one the stupidest comments he’s ever made and that’s saying something

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« Reply #58254 on: October 10, 2019, 05:03:35 am »
Making my way through his podcast series on rome(superb listen¡) and I'm constantly struck at the parallels with the rise of modern populists and Caesar. First as tradegy then as farce eh!

Death Throes of the Republic by Dan Carlin amazing on that front mate.

This kind of thing is so depressing and the perfect answer to people who don't think they cant get anything valuable from learning about our collective history. 

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« Reply #58255 on: October 10, 2019, 05:08:26 am »
Where were the South Korean's and the Japanese during Normandy?

Maybe that's why he's got such a problem with China.  Nowhere to be seen in the European theatre those slackers!

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« Reply #58256 on: October 10, 2019, 07:37:24 am »
Harry Dunn crash: Parents 'let down' by UK and US governments


Speaking after his conversation with the prime minister, President Trump said: "The woman was driving on the wrong side of the road, and that can happen.

"You know, those are the opposite roads, that happens. I won't say it ever happened to me, but it did.

"So a young man was killed, the person that was driving the automobile has diplomatic immunity, we're going to speak to her very shortly and see if we can do something where they meet.

"It was an accident, it was a terrible accident."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49986700

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« Reply #58257 on: October 10, 2019, 08:20:04 am »
Where were the South Korean's and the Japanese during Normandy?

I`m reminded of this story, doesnt matter if it`s true or not:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Kyoungjong
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« Reply #58258 on: October 10, 2019, 09:31:26 am »
"Accident"?!?! It's criminal negligence!!!!! Fucking hell......

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« Reply #58259 on: October 10, 2019, 09:36:14 am »
"Accident"?!?! It's criminal negligence!!!!! Fucking hell......

Be interesting the next time an undocumented immigrant is involved in a fatal car crash in the US.
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Be interesting the next time an undocumented immigrant is involved in a fatal car crash in the US.
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« Reply #58261 on: October 10, 2019, 10:13:44 am »
They'll be fine if they have............



Haha - everytime I see or read about it the past week all I hear in my head is that actor  ;D

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« Reply #58262 on: October 10, 2019, 10:51:25 am »
Haha - everytime I see or read about it the past week all I hear in my head is that actor  ;D

Same. But I also think of his spunky backpack.
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« Reply #58263 on: October 10, 2019, 10:58:07 am »
FOX News
Fox News Poll: Record support for Trump impeachment
 Dana Blanton
2 hrs ago


Just over half of voters want President Trump impeached and removed from office, according to a Fox News Poll released Wednesday.

A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment.
These numbers are incredible, for a process that’s only just started.  And it’s not like anything he’s doing right now is likely to reduce them.

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« Reply #58264 on: October 10, 2019, 11:37:50 am »


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Mr Dunn's mother Charlotte Charles said the US's apparent approach was "beyond any realm of human thinking".

Speaking to Sky News about the photograph of the notes, Mrs Charles said: "I'm just disgusted.

"I don't see the point in Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson talking to President Trump, or President Trump even taking a call from Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.

"If he'd already made his decision that if it were to be asked and if it were to be raised, the answer was already going to be no."

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« Reply #58265 on: October 10, 2019, 11:44:10 am »
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“The feeling we all got was that he didn’t know his arse from his elbow…it was a catastrophically bad meeting.”

Raad Seiger, the lawyer acting as an advisor to Harry Dunn’s family commenting on their meeting with @DominicRaab yesterday.

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« Reply #58266 on: October 10, 2019, 11:44:24 am »
Apparently, US forces took custody of two ISIS beheaders known as "The Beatles" before Turdogan invaded.

A bragging point for re-election, no doubt, that will have terrible consequences.
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« Reply #58267 on: October 10, 2019, 12:04:38 pm »
Here's another story for the "Donald Trump Is A Piece Of Shit" list...

He told a long-winded story yesterday about "people that were smiling saying, 'Oh Mr. President, thank you for being here'” when he visited Dover Air Force Base in the past to greet the coffins of returning deceased American soldiers.

“I’ve seen people that I thought were really incredible the way they were, I didn’t even understand how they could take it so well, scream like I’ve never seen anything before,” Trump said. “Sometimes they’ll run to the coffin. They’ll break through military barriers, they’ll run to the coffin and jump on the coffin.”

“Crying mothers and wives, crying desperately,” Trump said. And he went on and on and on with an increasingly dramatic story of what he'd seen.

The key line: "Sometimes I call the parents. Sometimes I see the parents. I go to Dover when I can."

Care to guess how many times Trump has gone to Dover to greet coffins in his 34 months as President?







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« Reply #58268 on: October 10, 2019, 12:18:40 pm »
Bet he whines like a bitch when told he has to go.
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« Reply #58269 on: October 10, 2019, 12:59:45 pm »
He probably likes to see them suffering.

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« Reply #58270 on: October 10, 2019, 01:11:16 pm »
He probably likes to see them suffering.

No.  He hates that all the attention is on somebody else.

That said it wouldn't surprise me if any number of families are asking that he doesn't attend.
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« Reply #58271 on: October 10, 2019, 01:29:03 pm »
He probably likes to see them suffering.
He's probably intrigued by human displays of emotion.
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« Reply #58272 on: October 10, 2019, 01:38:03 pm »
USA TODAY
Impeachment: Chief Justice John Roberts would be Senate's umpire
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WASHINGTON – The late Chief Justice William Rehnquist was a busy man on Jan. 20, 1999. The impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton was in its second week, and Rehnquist had to stop presiding over an oral argument at the Supreme Court, cross the street, and preside over the Senate.

One of the lawyers arguing before the high court that day was John Roberts. Once one of Rehnquist's law clerks at the high court, Roberts could be juggling the same two jobs as his former boss soon.

If President Donald Trump is impeached by the House of Representatives and tried by the Senate, it will be Roberts, nominated by President George W. Bush to succeed Rehnquist as chief justice in 2005, running the show. Those who know him best say he's a perfect fit for the job.

"I've argued in front of him 39 times, and I think what comes across is that he cares deeply about institutions," says Neal Katyal, a former acting U.S. solicitor general who, like Roberts before him, heads appellate litigation at Hogan Lovells.

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Like Rehnquist – who once quipped that as the Clinton impeachment trial's presiding officer he "did nothing in particular and did it very well" – Katyal says Roberts would "work hard to be scrupulously fair in carrying out a unique constitutional function."

Roberts, 64, this week began his 15th term as chief justice of the United States with a bang. The high court heard three major civil rights cases that will determine if gay and transgender people are protected by a 1964 federal law barring employment discrimination based on "sex."

In the next few months, his day job will include hearing cases on abortion, immigration, religion and gun rights, all on the eve of the 2020 presidential election.

New term: Supreme Court, trying to remain above the partisan fray, opens 2019 term with a debate about insanity

Last term: Supreme Court in transition: Conservatives ascendant but Roberts, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh prove unpredictable

What's more, Roberts now sits in the middle of the Supreme Court figuratively as well as literally. With the retirement of Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy last year, he has become the closest thing to a swing vote between four conservative and four liberal justices.

Roberts' last tango with the Senate came in 2005, when he defined the chief justice's role as that of an umpire calling balls and strikes en route to his 78-22 confirmation. Since then, he has tried to keep the Supreme Court out of politics – not always with success.

When Trump criticized an "Obama judge" last year over an immigration ruling, Roberts issued a rare rebuke. "We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges," he said. "What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them."

During an appearance in New York City late last month, Roberts said that appraisal applies to the justices as well.

“When you live in a politically polarized environment, people tend to see everything in those terms," he told about 2,000 people at Temple Emanu-el in Manhattan. "That’s not how we at the court function.”

In absentia, it would be Trump appearing before Roberts in a Senate impeachment trial, but the chief justice's role is more umpire than judge or jury. The Senate would acquit or convict the president; Roberts would rule on procedural matters and might break tie votes, but not on conviction, which requires a two-thirds majority of the 100-member Senate.

“I believe his presence would have a positive influence on the tenor of any debate,” says Walter Dellinger, a former acting U.S. solicitor general during the Clinton administration who argued the other case before the Supreme Court on Jan. 20, 1999. He recalls the marshal advising the advocates that Rehnquist would be leaving promptly at 11:50 a.m., and "not to take it personally."

"It would be fortunate to have Chief Justice Roberts preside over an impeachment trial, because I think he’ll be perceived to be fair and restrained," Dellinger says.

Live television

Restraint might be difficult in the current political environment, however. Richard Lazarus, a Harvard Law School professor and Roberts' roommate when both were students there in the 1970s, says Senate Democrats and Republicans worked together to set rules for the Clinton trial. That may be harder this time around.

“He knows that when he crosses First Street, he's going to be putting himself right in the middle of the workings of the political branch," Lazarus says. "He’s going to work hard to keep above the fray.”

In addition to partisan rancor, Roberts also would have to get used to being on live television – "the very thing that all the justices, certainly the chief, have not wanted to happen in the Supreme Court," Lazarus says.

There was no live TV in 1868, when Chief Justice Salmon Chase presided over the Senate's first impeachment trial of President Andrew Johnson. That was a good thing for Chase, who had two of his procedural rulings overruled.

Rehnquist did not meet that fate in the Senate's second impeachment trial, but his most significant ruling was to stop House members serving as managers, or prosecutors, from calling senators "jurors."

In a third Senate presidential impeachment trial, Roberts similarly would hope to avoid substantive rulings, Dellinger says. But he could be drawn into disputes over the admission of evidence or other matters.

"While they may be overturned by the vote of the Senate," Dellinger says, the chief justice's rulings "nonetheless would come with some moral force.”

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« Reply #58273 on: October 10, 2019, 01:46:08 pm »
He's probably intrigued by human displays of emotion.
Sort of like Spock in Star Trek.

Except Spock had a functioning brain.

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« Reply #58274 on: October 10, 2019, 02:00:22 pm »
If it comes down to the rule and application of the law rather than a simple vote, then Trump's toast.

If Trump is adjudged to have acted illegally and unconstitutionally, even if that ruling cannot be applied directly, it puts the GOP in a very awkward position if they want to ignore it and vote for aquittal.

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« Reply #58275 on: October 10, 2019, 02:12:40 pm »
If it comes down to the rule and application of the law rather than a simple vote, then Trump's toast.

If Trump is adjudged to have acted illegally and unconstitutionally, even if that ruling cannot be applied directly, it puts the GOP in a very awkward position if they want to ignore it and vote for aquittal.

Especially now more and more people are supporting impeachment. You can only imagine that will increase as the facts are laid out during / after the investigations.

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« Reply #58276 on: October 10, 2019, 02:17:59 pm »
Trump Urged Top Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing DOJ Charges

President Donald Trump pressed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to three people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.

Tillerson refused, arguing it would constitute interference in an ongoing investigation of the trader, Reza Zarrab, according to the people. They said other participants in the Oval Office were shocked by the request.

Tillerson immediately repeated his objections to then-Chief of Staff John Kelly in a hallway conversation just outside the Oval Office, emphasizing that the request would be illegal. Neither episode has been previously reported, and all of the people spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the conversations.

The White House declined to comment. Kelly and Tillerson declined to comment via representatives. Another person familiar with the matter said the Justice Department never considered dropping the criminal case.

Zarrab was being prosecuted in federal court in New York at the time on charges of evading U.S. sanctions against Iran’s nuclear program. He had hired former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and Giuliani, who has said he reached out repeatedly to U.S. officials to seek a diplomatic solution for his client outside the courts.

The president’s request to Tillerson -- which included asking him to speak with Giuliani -- bears the hallmarks of Trump’s governing style, defined by his willingness to sweep aside the customary procedures and constraints of government to pursue matters outside normal channels. Tillerson’s objection came to light as Trump’s dealings with foreign leaders face intense scrutiny following the July 25 call with Ukraine’s president that has sparked an impeachment inquiry in the House.

The episode is also likely to fuel long-standing concerns from some of Trump’s critics about his policies toward Turkey and his relationship with its authoritarian president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Zarrab’s release was a high priority for Erdogan until the gold trader agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in New York.

It isn’t clear whether Trump considered his request for Tillerson to intervene to be improper or was just testing the bounds of what he could do as president on an issue that could provide diplomatic benefits while also helping Giuliani, a longtime supporter. The Oval Office meeting occurred in the second half of 2017 and Giuliani wasn’t the president’s personal lawyer at the time, as he is now.

In a phone interview this month, Giuliani initially denied that he ever raised Zarrab’s case with Trump but later said he might have done so. He said he’d been speaking with U.S. officials as part of his effort to arrange a swap of Zarrab for Andrew Brunson, an American pastor jailed in Turkey who was later released in 2018.

“Suppose I did talk to Trump about it -- so what? I was a private lawyer at the time,” Giuliani said. “Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe at some point I dropped his name in a conversation. Or maybe one of his people talked to him about it because I was trying to do a prisoner swap.”

Giuliani said he discussed the Zarrab case with State Department officials and disclosed that two years ago, although he declined to say if he ever spoke directly to Tillerson about the case, saying “you have no right to know that.”

Concerns about Trump’s close alliance with Erdogan were exacerbated this week after Trump abruptly announced on Sunday that he would clear U.S. troops from the path of a planned Turkish invasion in northeast Syria. The weekend announcement drew quick criticism from top Republican lawmakers, who said it endangered Kurdish forces the U.S. relied on to defeat Islamic State. Those Kurdish-led forces are now under attack.

Trump followed his weekend decision with an announcement Tuesday that he has invited Erdogan to the White House in November.

As he was with Ukraine, Giuliani was so steeped in events in Turkey that State Department officials grew increasingly alarmed. Earlier in 2017, he had traveled to the country and met with Erdogan as part of his effort to seek a resolution in Zarrab’s case.

He and Mukasey said in a letter to the judge in Zarrab’s case that they notified then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions of their plans before holding a meeting with Erdogan.

Erdogan repeatedly spoke with Trump and, before 2017, Obama administration officials about Zarrab’s case when it was before the Southern District of New York as part of a broader investigation into a scheme to evade sanctions on Iran.

At one point, the State Department under Tillerson got involved in discussions over possibly swapping Zarrab for Brunson, the jailed pastor, but the matter was eventually dropped because Turkey kept escalating its demands, according to another person familiar with the timeline of events.

Tillerson has said publicly that the president frequently asked him to do things that were illegal.

“So often, the president would say ‘Here’s what I want to do and here’s how I want to do it,’ and I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can’t do it that way,”’ Tillerson said in an on-stage interview with Bob Schieffer in Texas last year. “It violates the law, it violates treaty you know and he just, he got really frustrated when we’d have those conversations.”

Zarrab, a one-time gold trader in his mid-30s, had lived an opulent lifestyle in Turkey, with a private plane, yacht and a Turkish pop-star wife. After his arrest in early 2016, prosecutors alleged he had “close ties” with Erdogan. They accused Zarrab of using his network of companies to move money through the U.S. financial system to help Iran evade sanctions as the U.S. was stepping up economic pressure on the country.

Zarrab later pleaded guilty and testified against Mehmet Hakan Atilla, who headed international banking at state-owned Turkiye Halk Bankasii AS, known as Halkbank. Zarrab said Erdogan knew of and supported the laundering effort on behalf of Iran. Erdogan and other senior Turkish officials repeatedly rejected the accusations, saying they were fabrications.

Atilla was eventually convicted of helping Iran evade economic sanctions on billions of dollars of oil revenue and served 28 months in U.S. prison before returning to Turkey in July to a hero’s welcome. Turkey has so far managed to avoid U.S. penalties over the sanctions-evasion scheme.

Despite Erdogan’s demands and Giuliani’s efforts, Zarrab was never sent back to Turkey. Once he agreed to testify, he was moved to a county jail for safekeeping, and he stayed there until after Atilla’s trial was over. By then, Zarrab’s home and assets in Turkey had been seized by Erdogan.

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« Reply #58277 on: October 10, 2019, 03:20:13 pm »
This is different to the post directly above. I know its hard to keep track of all the crimes:

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Breaking news from CNN: “Two associates of Rudy Giuliani, connected to efforts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on Democratic candidate Joe Biden were arrested Wednesday on criminal charges for violating campaign finance rules, according to the SDNY spokesman.”



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« Reply #58278 on: October 10, 2019, 03:31:48 pm »
This is different to the post directly above. I know its hard to keep track of all the crimes:

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Breaking news from CNN: “Two associates of Rudy Giuliani, connected to efforts to dig up dirt in Ukraine on Democratic candidate Joe Biden were arrested Wednesday on criminal charges for violating campaign finance rules, according to the SDNY spokesman.”



I, for one, am shocked that World's Dumbest Criminal Rudy Giuliani hired two people who may not have been entirely on the level.

Imagine being so desperate for a job that you'd be hired by Rudy Giuliani and he's the brains of the operation...

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« Reply #58279 on: October 10, 2019, 03:35:11 pm »
Imagine being so desperate for a job that you'd be hired by Rudy Giuliani and he's the brains of the operation...

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Well this seems significant, part of the charges against Parnas and Fruman relate to funneling illegal contributions to a US Congressman and seeking his aid in getting Ambassador Yovanovitch removed.

(Now former) Congressman is Pete Sessions, who got $3m from a Trump SuperPAC.
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