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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15280 on: September 3, 2020, 12:12:51 pm »
Graham said something like this on the Season ticket fan update thread- seems as though members with max credits will be recognised as equal to season ticket holders.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15281 on: September 3, 2020, 12:20:12 pm »
Graham said something like this on the Season ticket fan update thread- seems as though members with max credits will be recognised as equal to season ticket holders.

When you say max, do you mean 19 or 13+

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15282 on: September 3, 2020, 01:39:37 pm »
When you say max, do you mean 19 or 13+

I'm not sure- this is the quote I'm referring to:

I think you'll see Members will get the same pro-rata chance to get in as STHs and Hospitality.And an effort for anyone wanting to go getting the same number of games during this situation.

I always assumed it would be 15 (number of home games last season), but sounds as though the club will have about 25% of season ticket holders and 25% of members with a certain number of games in the ground. Therefore, to make sure everyone in the ballot gets to the same number of games they will have to adjust the number of games from last season members require. If they decide that everyone on the ballot goes to 1 in 4 games, and this doesn't change even when capacity is increased, then the credits required will get lower. Or, the club might decide to increase the number of games people in the ballot get to go to, which would mean credits needed would go up/ stay the same. Graham also says later that it's not decided yet what the credit requirements for members is going to be, so I guess we've just got to wait to see what the club decide.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15283 on: September 3, 2020, 01:53:55 pm »
Can't see them allowing fans back in on the date they suggested a few months ago with them banging on about cases going up

Personally expect an announcement postponing the relaxation of these current restrictions to come in the next 2-3 weeks

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15284 on: September 3, 2020, 04:36:08 pm »
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/407371-supporter-update-on-preparations-for-new-season

Absolutely spot on from the club, this

I'm amazed members will even get a chance this season, but a very welcome surprise.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15285 on: September 3, 2020, 04:38:20 pm »
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/407371-supporter-update-on-preparations-for-new-season

Absolutely spot on from the club, this

I'm amazed members will even get a chance this season, but a very welcome surprise.

Impressive from the club

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15286 on: September 3, 2020, 04:40:04 pm »
I had a txt yesterday somebody saying  season tickets & members with 13+ will get to 1 in 4 league games...also like Manchester City no ST money will be taken only game by game.....like the auto scheme...supposed to be starting Sheff Utd at home....
pretty gutting sitting on 12 now if true, should have chance at cups tho if we are allowed back

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« Reply #15287 on: September 3, 2020, 04:46:48 pm »
Wonder what the criteria will be. STHs + 13s as priority as suggested above would be fair. I'd imagine a fair chunk of those probably will swerve it (especially games against smaller clubs). Seems to suggest it will just be a ticket sale and not a ballot.
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« Reply #15288 on: September 3, 2020, 04:49:53 pm »
Wonder what the criteria will be. STHs + 13s as priority as suggested above would be fair. I'd imagine a fair chunk of those probably will swerve it (especially games against smaller clubs). Seems to suggest it will just be a ticket sale and not a ballot.
ticket sale seems really unfair, when tickets are so limited, rotating ballot is clearly the best option, even a standard ballot for each game is better

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« Reply #15289 on: September 3, 2020, 04:54:44 pm »
ticket sale seems really unfair, when tickets are so limited, rotating ballot is clearly the best option, even a standard ballot for each game is better

Definitely, it'll only advantage those with the technical know-how / ability really. I'd have hoped for a ballot but I guess added administration for the ticket office isn't a good thing  ;D

I'm probably going to give it a miss for now and take stock in January. Out of my usual group it's a bit of a 50/50 split on whether people intend to go or not.
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« Reply #15290 on: September 3, 2020, 05:05:16 pm »
People who are uneasy with going will probably be more comfortable with not going with it now confirmed no game this season will count as a credit.

As for the know-how, it's a brand new ticket system this season. No-one will know the short cuts (unfortunately :( ), well apart from the bot-builders.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15291 on: September 3, 2020, 05:06:13 pm »
I think that's about as fair as it could be. I live quite far away and I have written off next season. Would rather people nearer the ground get to go, but know that I won't lose out with any credits by doing so.

I may do the same as RainbowFlick - see what the situation is like in January. Maybe I get to go to a game or two in the season. But if not it's no worries, just hopefully the entire coronavirus situation improves for everyone the world over.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15292 on: September 3, 2020, 05:07:14 pm »
Echo reckons Sheff Utd game on 24th October will have 12,500 fans. All four stands open

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« Reply #15293 on: September 3, 2020, 05:10:30 pm »
Definitely, it'll only advantage those with the technical know-how / ability really. I'd have hoped for a ballot but I guess added administration for the ticket office isn't a good thing  ;D

I'm probably going to give it a miss for now and take stock in January. Out of my usual group it's a bit of a 50/50 split on whether people intend to go or not.
it'll end up being the same people going everytime though, not fair given the circumstances

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« Reply #15294 on: September 3, 2020, 05:18:51 pm »
Very fair and clever by the club. This initiative will boost the membership sales now that its every man for himself for both league and cup games. I hope the new ticketing system can handle 100,000+ fighting for 10,000 or so tickets  ;D

The only thing that doesn’t sit right with me is that someone who’s never been to a match before has as much opportunity of going to a European semi final than someone who hasn’t missed a game in 30-40 years.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15295 on: September 3, 2020, 05:20:30 pm »
Very fair and clever by the club. This initiative will boost the membership sales now that its every man for himself for both league and cup games. I hope the new ticketing system can handle 100,000+ fighting for 10,000 or so tickets  ;D

The only thing that doesn’t sit right with me is that someone who’s never been to a match before has as much opportunity of going to a European semi final than someone who hasn’t missed a game in 30-40 years.

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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15296 on: September 3, 2020, 05:33:40 pm »
You will need credits....

Apologies missed that. So they’re going to pluck a figure of xx amount of credits from last season who will have a shot? Which means basically if you haven’t been to that xx figure of games then you haven’t got a chance at all (on the premise that the majority of ST holders pursue tickets).
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« Reply #15297 on: September 3, 2020, 05:34:00 pm »
Apologies missed that. So they’re going to pluck a figure of xx amount of credits from last season who will have a shot? Which means basically if you haven’t been to that xx figure of games then you haven’t got a chance at all (on the premise that the majority of ST holders pursue tickets).
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« Reply #15298 on: September 3, 2020, 05:37:33 pm »
I had 13 last year which doesn’t include the 3 that got refunded based on the virus. Wasn’t expecting a sniff at all but now a small glimmer of hope maybe.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15299 on: September 3, 2020, 05:54:08 pm »
I’m guessing season tickets will be in a ballot and a certain amount say 10% will be held back for members with x amount of credits.  There’s far too many ticket holders and members that qualify and I suspect they want season tickets holders to all get some games. Furthermore I can’t imagine we do it different to what Arsenal and Leicester are doing.

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« Reply #15300 on: September 3, 2020, 05:54:33 pm »
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15301 on: September 3, 2020, 05:59:53 pm »
Am I right in thinking those who got 13+ credits in the season just gone by will be guaranteed games when the 21/22 season starts?


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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15302 on: September 3, 2020, 06:03:40 pm »
Am I right in thinking those who got 13+ credits in the season just gone by will be guaranteed games when the 21/22 season starts?

Yes if 13 remains the magic number

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« Reply #15303 on: September 3, 2020, 06:27:38 pm »
Thinks that's a great update from the club, should be some other info available soon too.

Only question that remains - behind closed doors games, yay or nay for credits? The wait continues hahaha
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« Reply #15304 on: September 3, 2020, 06:36:55 pm »
According to James Pearce in the Athletic, a ballot seems likely.

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« Reply #15305 on: September 3, 2020, 06:43:12 pm »
My guess is a ballot giving one game in three based on 27,000 STH’s and between 5,000 and 10,000 members with the required credits, will be interesting to see the hospitality split though
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« Reply #15306 on: September 3, 2020, 06:45:24 pm »
According to James Pearce in the Athletic, a ballot seems likely.
has to be a ballot

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« Reply #15307 on: September 3, 2020, 06:45:53 pm »
Am I right in thinking those who got 13+ credits in the season just gone by will be guaranteed games when the 21/22 season starts?

Thats how I read it mate yes.  Fantastic news for me I have to say
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« Reply #15308 on: September 3, 2020, 06:46:14 pm »
My guess is a ballot giving one game in three based on 27,000 STH’s and between 5,000 and 10,000 members with the required credits, will be interesting to see the hospitality split though
Hospitality will be the hospitality areas in the main and Kenny stands. Can’t imagine offsite crap will be sold etc.

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« Reply #15309 on: September 3, 2020, 06:47:47 pm »
I’m guessing season tickets will be in a ballot and a certain amount say 10% will be held back for members with x amount of credits.  There’s far too many ticket holders and members that qualify and I suspect they want season tickets holders to all get some games. Furthermore I can’t imagine we do it different to what Arsenal and Leicester are doing.

Have the hospo managers been in touch with people for what they're doing?
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15310 on: September 3, 2020, 07:15:40 pm »
James Pearce’s article mentions 500 away fans!, sorry but none should be allowed in any ground until things get back to normal, there are so many fans already missing out it’s a joke they are even considering it
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« Reply #15311 on: September 3, 2020, 07:27:04 pm »
it'll end up being the same people going everytime though, not fair given the circumstances

It won't, I'm guessing you'll be able to attend one in every 3 or 4 games or so.

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« Reply #15312 on: September 3, 2020, 07:38:37 pm »
James Pearce’s article mentions 500 away fans!, sorry but none should be allowed in any ground until things get back to normal, there are so many fans already missing out it’s a joke they are even considering it

Disagree. It would be amazing to be able to go to away games again.

Obvious argument against is extra travel = extra spread of virus. In which case they should just sell home tickets based on the 12,500 STs and members on 19 who live closest to the ground.
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« Reply #15313 on: September 3, 2020, 08:00:14 pm »
Disagree. It would be amazing to be able to go to away games again.

Obvious argument against is extra travel = extra spread of virus. In which case they should just sell home tickets based on the 12,500 STs and members on 19 who live closest to the ground.

This is how I thought they would have done it to be honest.

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« Reply #15314 on: September 3, 2020, 08:12:15 pm »
Have the hospo managers been in touch with people for what they're doing?

Nope nothing yet, suppose we will know in the coming weeks

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« Reply #15315 on: September 3, 2020, 08:27:39 pm »
I never thought we'd get to away games this season, or the first half at least, that's pretty surprising if it happens.
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« Reply #15316 on: September 3, 2020, 08:34:37 pm »
Correct me if I’m wrong but after reading the clubs latest update re tickets for forthcoming games, will it not be season ticket holders first before members get a sniff?
I can’t see anything specific with regard to ratios of season ticket holders to members with required credits?

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« Reply #15317 on: September 3, 2020, 08:48:22 pm »
Correct me if I’m wrong but after reading the clubs latest update re tickets for forthcoming games, will it not be season ticket holders first before members get a sniff?
I can’t see anything specific with regard to ratios of season ticket holders to members with required credits?

No mention either way, but given several references to Members in the release, it’d suggest Members with certain criteria will at least get an opportunity at some point.
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Re: Members Sales
« Reply #15318 on: September 3, 2020, 09:00:40 pm »
Great move by the club. I'll be absolutely made up if I can get back to the game this side of xmas. Think this is honestly the best outcome for regular members and STH's. Greta that 2021/22 season will be based on 19/20 credits too.

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« Reply #15319 on: September 3, 2020, 09:24:12 pm »
Great move by the club. I'll be absolutely made up if I can get back to the game this side of xmas. Think this is honestly the best outcome for regular members and STH's. Greta that 2021/22 season will be based on 19/20 credits too.

Anyone not renewed their membership now thinking they should do?

Still waiting for actual ticket news to come out before I renew. There's no rush or time limit.