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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #840 on: November 30, 2021, 10:19:31 am »
Yeah mate. Send her out for the weekly shop whilst you're at home.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #841 on: November 30, 2021, 10:35:25 am »
Yeah mate. Send her out for the weekly shop whilst you're at home.

Thank you for the helpful response…

The reason I’m asking is I have no issue in keeping her at home, but don’t then want grief from the school for an unauthorised absence because she’s quarantining for a trip that was during school holidays.
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #842 on: November 30, 2021, 10:45:03 am »
Thank you for the helpful response…

The reason I’m asking is I have no issue in keeping her at home, but don’t then want grief from the school for an unauthorised absence because she’s quarantining for a trip that was during school holidays.

It was an attempt at levity.

In all likelihood, if you don't require a PCR test for whatever reason then you can't be expected to self-isolate until the non-existent result comes back.

Unless the guidance specifically addresses this scenario, that's how I'd interpret it.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #843 on: November 30, 2021, 11:26:43 am »
It was an attempt at levity.

In all likelihood, if you don't require a PCR test for whatever reason then you can't be expected to self-isolate until the non-existent result comes back.

Unless the guidance specifically addresses this scenario, that's how I'd interpret it.

Sorry, I took in a completely different way.

Thanks for the response, and confirming my logic.
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #844 on: November 30, 2021, 07:08:03 pm »
After all the worry of COViD, PCR tests cancelling my holiday, it turns out the fucking dog has done it for me. My girlfriend brought the passports downstairs last night to put the numbers into the PCR test form, left them down here, the dog ripped hers to fucking shreds. Unbelievable that in 2021 you can’t get a passport replacement on the same day despite all the vital details of the damaged one being visible but that apparently is the case.

Absolutely gutted, having to reschedule for January.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #845 on: November 30, 2021, 07:35:45 pm »
After all the worry of COViD, PCR tests cancelling my holiday, it turns out the fucking dog has done it for me. My girlfriend brought the passports downstairs last night to put the numbers into the PCR test form, left them down here, the dog ripped hers to fucking shreds. Unbelievable that in 2021 you can’t get a passport replacement on the same day despite all the vital details of the damaged one being visible but that apparently is the case.

Absolutely gutted, having to reschedule for January.
Nightmare. I'm holding off until tomorrow to pay for my day 2 test in case anything changes in the next 24 hours. I don't have a dog to destroy anything, just a cat who would be quite happy to push me out the door and wave me off.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #846 on: November 30, 2021, 10:38:22 pm »
Going to cancel our trip to Reykjavik. Four days coming back 22nd Dec. Just too many risks of what could go wrong. I say cancel but its with tui so it will most likely be a case of them holding onto our money to use on another trip next year.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #847 on: December 1, 2021, 04:18:14 pm »

Looks like an announcement is imminent from the US regarding new rules for arrivals . Looking like a 24 hr. pre-travel negative test and possibly a further test 3 to 5 days after arrival .

Also talk of a possible 7 day quarantine for arrivals but just a rumour at the moment .

Travelling over with the family on 15th December , but will cancel if the quarantine rules do come in .
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #848 on: December 1, 2021, 04:25:25 pm »
We got back from the US last Wednesday and I feel so lucky already. It feels like things are going to change very quickly again. Nightmare time of the year with people travelling to see family.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #849 on: December 2, 2021, 08:31:49 am »
I fly to Lanzarote in 25 hours so I'm hoping for no last minute restrictions / testing changes. Squeaky bum time.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #850 on: December 2, 2021, 09:06:05 am »
Think any trips for me next year will be a late/last minute booking based on wherever seems accessible.

Not putting £500 odd into flights with a constant worry in the run-up to the holiday whether it'll go ahead.

Ideally was hoping for a February city break for my birthday but I reckon Europe will be in the midst of high case numbers as they're all socialising indoors whilst the weather is poor.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #851 on: December 2, 2021, 09:43:19 pm »
We are heading to Tenerife on January 2nd. Tried to change it to a bit later in the year earlier, but they want £1700 extra to do so. So we go as planned, at the moment.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #852 on: December 3, 2021, 10:27:09 am »
Confused by the wording of the day 2 test: "on or before day 2". So does "before" mean you can just test on day 1? I assume not, but am I the only one that finds that confusing?
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #853 on: December 3, 2021, 10:31:50 am »
Confused by the wording of the day 2 test: "on or before day 2". So does "before" mean you can just test on day 1? I assume not, but am I the only one that finds that confusing?

The test you have to do when you get home?

If so you can do it any time up to day 2. We took ours soon after we arrived back home and logged it all without any issues.

Edit - That was when the requirement was for a Lateral Flow. But we ordered the kits before we went away, put the references on the UK Passenger Locator forms etc.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #854 on: December 3, 2021, 10:34:51 am »
The test you have to do when you get home?

If so you can do it any time up to day 2. We took ours soon after we arrived back home and logged it all without any issues.

Edit - That was when the requirement was for a Lateral Flow. But we ordered the kits before we went away, put the references on the UK Passenger Locator forms etc.

My work are insisting I will need to take the two days off when I get home. I plan to get the rapid test at the airport on the way back but they want one done after the second day as well. I think it makes sense, just in case you catch it on the plane and it doesn't show up until the second, but I too am confused a bit now.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #855 on: December 3, 2021, 10:41:49 am »
Confused by the wording of the day 2 test: "on or before day 2". So does "before" mean you can just test on day 1? I assume not, but am I the only one that finds that confusing?
We’re going to book one at the airport about an hour after we land. Need the results back asap so we can go back to work.

To clear up what ‘on or before day 2’ means, quote from govt site:-

“To count the days:

the day you arrive in England is day 0
the day after you arrive is day 1, and so on”

So it needs to be done on day 0, 1 or 2
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #856 on: December 3, 2021, 10:45:04 am »
The test you have to do when you get home?

If so you can do it any time up to day 2. We took ours soon after we arrived back home and logged it all without any issues.

Edit - That was when the requirement was for a Lateral Flow. But we ordered the kits before we went away, put the references on the UK Passenger Locator forms etc.

Thanks, so they actually mean "before"?

For the day 8 test, they specify that you have to wait a full 8 days before registering, or it won't count. (I know you don't have to do a day 8 at the moment, but its still in the same guidance.)

So you think I can just test on the way home, and not waste a couple of extra days?
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #857 on: December 3, 2021, 10:46:10 am »
We’re going to book one at the airport about an hour after we land. Need the results back asap so we can go back to work.

To clear up what ‘on or before day 2’ means, quote from govt site:-

“To count the days:

the day you arrive in England is day 0
the day after you arrive is day 1, and so on”

So it needs to be done on day 0, 1 or 2

Sweet, if that works, I'll do the same! There'll be enough delays with all the extra bank holidays over Christmas.
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #858 on: December 3, 2021, 10:59:55 am »
Thanks, so they actually mean "before"?

For the day 8 test, they specify that you have to wait a full 8 days before registering, or it won't count. (I know you don't have to do a day 8 at the moment, but its still in the same guidance.)

So you think I can just test on the way home, and not waste a couple of extra days?

Yes. We tested the day after we got back from Cyprus. You now have to isolate until you get the result, so earlier the better.
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #859 on: December 3, 2021, 11:22:13 am »
Yes. We tested the day after we got back from Cyprus. You now have to isolate until you get the result, so earlier the better.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #860 on: December 3, 2021, 08:31:16 pm »
The last two euro aways we done we landed afternoon and had tests booked at randox in Liverpool one for six that evening , results usually just after midnight ...after Porto though I was positive

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #861 on: December 4, 2021, 07:00:46 pm »
Fucks sake...Javid just said you'll need a pre-departure covid test, as well as the day 2 test from Tuesday. So that means do a covid test, fly for one hour, do another covid test. That'll make it safer ::)
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #862 on: December 4, 2021, 08:07:56 pm »
So they’re saying either a LTF or PCR before departure back to the UK.

Is this done in a test centre abroad or can you purchase and take an LTF from the UK? Can’t see it mentioned anywhere.

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« Reply #863 on: December 4, 2021, 08:23:56 pm »
So they’re saying either a LTF or PCR before departure back to the UK.

Is this done in a test centre abroad or can you purchase and take an LTF from the UK? Can’t see it mentioned anywhere.

They likely haven't thought about that yet. Also how close to departure do you have to do your test?
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #864 on: December 4, 2021, 10:14:47 pm »
So they’re saying either a LTF or PCR before departure back to the UK.

Is this done in a test centre abroad or can you purchase and take an LTF from the UK? Can’t see it mentioned anywhere.

You’ll need the result before you leave the country your in I suppose , when in sorrento earlier this year similar rules applied so had one done in a chemist the day before travel , if your only going and returning within 48 hours apparently the one in the uk pre departure will suffice

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #865 on: December 4, 2021, 10:19:27 pm »
Also how close to departure do you have to do your test?
Max. 48 hours before apparently.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #866 on: December 4, 2021, 11:29:47 pm »
Fucks sake...Javid just said you'll need a pre-departure covid test, as well as the day 2 test from Tuesday. So that means do a covid test, fly for one hour, do another covid test. That'll make it safer ::)
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #867 on: December 5, 2021, 04:32:38 pm »
Anyone have experience with these pre-departure tests? Who is checking them, the staff at the airport abroad, or the border guards when you land? Can you take one of these randox LFTs with you, can they read the randox app, and how do they know you've not used an NHS test?
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #868 on: December 5, 2021, 05:18:09 pm »
Anyone have experience with these pre-departure tests? Who is checking them, the staff at the airport abroad, or the border guards when you land? Can you take one of these randox LFTs with you, can they read the randox app, and how do they know you've not used an NHS test?

When we flew to Cyprus, my lad had to have a PCR which then was used to create his Cyprus Flight pass, their equivalent of our passenger locator form, we all had one each and we had to show the Cyprus Flight Pass at Manchester before we were allowed to drop our bags and again at Pafos before we were allowed into the terminal to go through passport control.

When you do the Randox tests, they create a certificate amd email it to you. This has your passport number on it, the NHS one doesn't, so you cannot use the NHS ones.

I just printed off loads of copies of our covid travel vaccination certificates, our flight passes and my lads PCR test, and took them everywhere with us.
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #869 on: December 5, 2021, 05:52:54 pm »
Great, thanks!
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« Reply #870 on: December 5, 2021, 06:53:50 pm »
Planning to get out to the Asda cashie on Smithdown next week, it's horrible weather though and unlike my friends I don't have a Himalayan Bridal Hat to keep me cosy and alluring.
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« Reply #871 on: December 5, 2021, 08:27:26 pm »
In Lanzarote currently, woke up and saw the news about the pre-departure test, went straight to reception and I've got someone coming to test me in my room tomorrow. 30 Euros, so not so bad.

Presumably if it's positive they'll lock me in and come back in 10 days.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #872 on: December 9, 2021, 08:24:16 am »
So Cancun is now more like holidaying in Beirut. Gunmen opening fire from Jet Skis on another gang and Marines patrolling the beach  :o





https://news.sky.com/story/tourists-run-for-cover-after-gunmen-on-jet-skis-open-fire-on-the-beachfront-of-cancun-12490424
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #873 on: December 9, 2021, 08:51:05 am »
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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #874 on: December 10, 2021, 06:09:58 pm »
Flew from the US to UK (via Iceland) a couple weeks ago and back to the US (via Iceland) yesterday.

Would happily never fly again, or maybe just one trip, to fly me out of here for good  ;D

Icing on the shitcake was my bag getting lost by Icelandair  :-\

By the way, one very noticable thing - US security and immigration, casual as anything. Easiest in and out of the country I’ve ever had.  At JFK, going through security - everything left in bags, no interest whatsover.  Coming back, quick glance at the passports, and off you go.

And the forms you have to sign to attest you have tested negative and have been vaccinated, not arsed about that, no one asked to see them.

On the way out of the UK, they where more ‘on the ball’, or at least Icelandair where, needing to upload results of a negative test a few hours before departure and then showing them again at check-in.

As for the tests, it was still just lateral flow that was needed after we arrived. Then on the way back, US changed it form needing it 72 hours or less before, to 24 hours or less. That was a bit stressful, thanks to the company we got tests form - medicspot.co.uk, and their contrasting info. We got an email after registering the tests saying they had to be ‘observed’. NO mention of this before, and we litterally where doing them 23 hours before leaving. So after panicing for a bit, we just did them and followed the on screen instructions. And all was find. So they don’t need to be observed  ::)  Idiots.

Oh we also switched tests by mistake, cos we where doing two at once, and no fucker at Medicspot noticed, being automated and oh so easy to abuse the system of course

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #875 on: December 10, 2021, 06:13:25 pm »
Flew from the US to UK (via Iceland) a couple weeks ago and back to the US (via Iceland) yesterday.

Would happily never fly again, or maybe just one trip, to fly me out of here for good  ;D

Icing on the shitcake was my bag getting lost by Icelandair  :-\

By the way, one very noticable thing - US security and immigration, casual as anything. Easiest in and out of the country I’ve ever had.  At JFK, going through security - everything left in bags, no interest whatsover.  Coming back, quick glance at the passports, and off you go.

And the forms you have to sign to attest you have tested negative and have been vaccinated, not arsed about that, no one asked to see them.

On the way out of the UK, they where more ‘on the ball’, or at least Icelandair where, needing to upload results of a negative test a few hours before departure and then showing them again at check-in.

As for the tests, it was still just lateral flow that was needed after we arrived. Then on the way back, US changed it form needing it 72 hours or less before, to 24 hours or less. That was a bit stressful, thanks to the company we got tests form - medicspot.co.uk, and their contrasting info. We got an email after registering the tests saying they had to be ‘observed’. NO mention of this before, and we litterally where doing them 23 hours before leaving. So after panicing for a bit, we just did them and followed the on screen instructions. And all was find. So they don’t need to be observed  ::)  Idiots.

Oh we also switched tests by mistake, cos we where doing two at once, and no fucker at Medicspot noticed, being automated and oh so easy to abuse the system of course

I could be wrong but it seems like the UK and it's 'friends' are doing a reciprocal approach whereby the country you leave does the heavy lifting so to speak and the country you're travelling to takes it on face value that they've gone through their processes already. Hence why you had more scrutiny leaving Britain than you would arriving I think.

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Re: Holidays - UK or abroad?
« Reply #876 on: December 12, 2021, 07:13:15 pm »
Came back to ireland from Zambia last week under a wee bit of stress due to possible pending restrictions. Got a local PCR test for $30 (paid $140 in Ireland for the same test before I went so guess someone is making a nice margin on that) and was asked to show the negative results before boarding at Zambia then again at Ethiopa and again in Sweden. Yep my ass was killing me at this stage but on arrival into Dublin all they wanted to know was did I have alcohol or cigarettes in my luggage. :butt Beggars to belief when all I was reading on RTE the week prior was I better have the PCR results in hand and dont be surprised if I would be isolating at home or even in a hotel in quaratine.
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