Topic: Premier League fixtures 14-16th October

[rafathegaffa83]

Truly embarrassing stuff from Chelsea today.

Arsenal?

Yep, I could see him being at Arsenal, if Tuchel isn't. He turned down offers from bigger clubs outside of the PL to join Watford. I think he prefers the level of control he has in the PL.

[Gerry Attrick]

wouldnt need to move house as their training grounds are nearby

Deeney is spot on here

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/919285963901239297

He's just earned himself a nice reducer the next time he faces them.

[Something Worse]

He's just earned himself a nice reducer the next time he faces them.

From an Arsenal player!? Possibly the only nicer team than us in this league.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

He's just earned himself a nice reducer the next time he faces them.

from who on that team??

[Gerry Attrick]

from who on that team??

Xhaka likes a tackle.

[Statto Red]

wouldnt need to move house as their training grounds are nearby

Deeney is spot on here

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/919285963901239297

Nearby to meaning next door, staff from both clubs can use a ladder & long lense video & record each others training sessions.

[Nick110581]

He's just earned himself a nice reducer the next time he faces them.

Denney is a bit of a prick. But he sums it up perfectly.

[Gerry Attrick]

Denney is a bit of a prick. But he sums it up perfectly.

I don't disagree with him, but why give the media a quote like that? Take the high ground and deflect the question.

[Nick110581]

I don't disagree with him, but why give the media a quote like that? Take the high ground and deflect the question.

Because he is a prick. Why is he even in studio?

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I don't disagree with him, but why give the media a quote like that? Take the high ground and deflect the question.

seem to remember when they beat us 3-0 a few seasons ago he called skrtel a soft shite (paraphrasing a bit there), not wrong but probably not a great idea to say it

Xhaka likes a tackle.

hed also find new ways to fuck it up, would probably do his acl in attempting to do the tackle

[puroresu_kid]

De Bruyne's passing today was ridiculously good. Not sure there is a better player in the league when it comes to weight of pass.

[Iska]

Deeney is spot on here

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/919285963901239297

Great little clip that, it's excellent to have an actual participant giving some unvarnished truth.

[Nick110581]

De Bruyne's passing today was ridiculously good. Not sure there is a better player in the league when it comes to weight of pass.

He's on a different level at the moment.

They have two great strikers too.

[bird_lfc]

Because he is a prick. Why is he even in studio?

he’s not a prick - he’s just saying it how it is. i’d much rather that than some generic shit like ‘yeah arsenal are a good team, they showed their quality etc’ 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

he’s not a prick - he’s just saying it how it is. i’d much rather that than some generic shit like ‘yeah arsenal are a good team, they showed their quality etc’

Deeney is an absolutely snidey shithouse, and shit

[Hazell]

Deeney is an absolutely snidey shithouse, and shit

And he looks like a cartoon.

[darragh85]

he’s not a prick - he’s just saying it how it is. i’d much rather that than some generic shit like ‘yeah arsenal are a good team, they showed their quality etc’

who is he to say that though?  The arsenal players have won more football games than he has.

reminds me of that time the Bournemouth defender had a pop at Mignolet after they beat us last season. These players need to know their place

[RyanBabel19]

who is he to say that though?  The arsenal players have won more football games than he has.

reminds me of that time the Bournemouth defender had a pop at Mignolet after they beat us last season. These players need to know their place

Don't like that though, just because a side wins more than yours why shouldn't you tell the truth about how you see things

Football has become boring enough as it is without needing to have fucking robots all giving the same generic answers to questions. Fair fucks to him, he's fucking right. Arsenal for years have looked a side with a soft centre, of the top sides they're the ones i'd love to play against if i was a player for a smaller side, take the game to them and watch their prima donnas look to the referee for help instead of giving as good as they get

One particular passage of play always comes to mind when people talk about Arsenals character and strength. The game we obliterated them in the first 20 mins. The Sturrdige goal from Coutinhos through ball. Ozils in that passage of play sums up their problems for me, outmuscled... doesn't want to fight for the ball, would rather complain to the ref and watch us wheel away with the ball and score.

A number of their fans used to wheel out this narrative that they were some sort of english Barcelona. At barca they view losing the ball as something you should feel shame about, Arsenal are a side everyone knows don't want to battle you if you go at them from the off, stoke used to love that and fast became their bogey team for that exact reason. I don't even like Deeney to be honest but fair play to him for just being honest

[Gerry Attrick]

It's a bit disrespectful, I doubt he'd be lapping it up if an Arsenal player said "Well, Watford lack quality" after belting the shit out of them at Vicarage Road last year.

[RyanBabel19]

It's a bit disrespectful, I doubt he'd be lapping it up if an Arsenal player said "Well, Watford lack quality" after belting the shit out of them at Vicarage Road last year.

Maybe i need to watch it back as i did listen to it as kind of background noise but i didn't think it was personally

Its telling that its said time and time again season after season about them, even Martin Keown seems to go on to pretty much agree with him after which says a lot considering the sides he played in for Arsenal

As a player/manager surely you target oppositions weaknesses, to highlight them isn't disrespectful to me unless you are wording it in a certain way. I don't see it as disrespectful when people talk about targeting our weakness on set pieces as its true and everyone can see it.

He probably wouldn't be lapping it up but i also doubt he would disagree wholeheartedly with it

[Thats So Dimitar]

It's a bit disrespectful, I doubt he'd be lapping it up if an Arsenal player said "Well, Watford lack quality" after belting the shit out of them at Vicarage Road last year.

He had a whinge about it a couple years ago when we played them, Ake got sent off for putting his studs in to the inside of of Lamela's thigh, an easy red card but apparently for him it was because we "disrespect Watford", he's an idiot.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/watfords-troy-deeney-accuses-tottenham-7088526.amp

Despite TV pictures proving the dismissal was justified, Deeney has accused the Spurs players of pressuring referee Anthony Taylor to show a straight red card.

The striker said: “The thing that frustrated me was 10 people running around the referee screaming for him to be sent off.

“But apparently we’re 'little Watford' and you’re supposed to be running all over us, so why do you need a man sent off?

“People are going to know what we do. Tottenham tried three at the back. People will show you respect. But you’ll still get people who come here expecting to beat us.

“We’re still classed as ‘little Watford’. I find it quite cute. But we cause people problems. We’ve held our own and shaken up the league a little bit.

“The only reason we’re not getting more credit is because of how well Leicester have done. But we’re happy to be lowish under the radar.”

[johnybarnes]

I've watched all of this 17 min interview with Deeney - quite refreshing to hear a footballer talk without the pre-set template.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48KTftAmeo

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

I've watched all of this 17 min interview with Deeney - quite refreshing to hear a footballer talk without the pre-set template.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48KTftAmeo

Aye. After some of the posts above, I was about to post that video.

[TheShanklyGates]

I've watched all of this 17 min interview with Deeney - quite refreshing to hear a footballer talk without the pre-set template.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_48KTftAmeo

The reaction in here shows exactly why most do talk in boring generic cliches though.

[Anywhichwayicant]

I have new found respect for Deeney.

[Anywhichwayicant]

The reaction in here shows exactly why most do talk in boring generic cliches though.

It no surprise though. It's the reason why the rich get richer and the poor get poor.

People like to live in a bubble. They don't like hearing stuff that goes against what they think. Even a bloody footballer giving an interview.

Our species really is doomed.

[Ken-Obi]

No way will Palace win today, not a hope in hell.

[AndyMuller]

Kevin De Bruyne is something else.

[b_joseph]

It no surprise though. It's the reason why the rich get richer and the poor get poor.

People like to live in a bubble. They don't like hearing stuff that goes against what they think. Even a bloody footballer giving an interview.

Our species really is doomed.

In this instance, he said something that everyone already believed/knew. I think people would describe our team in similar ways but thats for another day.

As for a ''reducer''.
1) Does he look like someone who is bothered by that?
2) He called Arsenal soft for a reason.

[Nick110581]

he’s not a prick - he’s just saying it how it is. i’d much rather that than some generic shit like ‘yeah arsenal are a good team, they showed their quality etc’ 

Why does he need to say it though?

I am not saying he's wrong but just keep your head down.

[Rush 82]

he’s not a prick - he’s just saying it how it is. i’d much rather that than some generic shit like ‘yeah arsenal are a good team, they showed their quality etc’

He is a prick - at the same time, I'm glad he said it - should give our lads some pause for thought so that we don't fall into the same trap.

It's why I was pleased to see Moreno getting stuck in in a couple of games and glad to know that Naby Keith has a bit of that needle too - there's many on this League who will simply bully you if you're seen as soft.

[Rush 82]

Why does he need to say it though?

I am not saying he's wrong but just keep your head down.

'cos he's a prick and a stupid one to boot - a clever player does what he does without advertising - instead he's put a nice target on his back

[Nick110581]

'cos he's a prick and a stupid one to boot - a clever player does what he does without advertising - instead he's put a nice target on his back

It's just not very bright.

Never like players mouthing off in the press.

[Hij]

I did laugh at Arsenal fans calling him out on Twatter like you have to win back to back Premier League titles to have any say on anything. One Watford fan was like "He's a legend to Watford fans for what he's done over the years" and an Arsenal fan retorted 'Well that's something to tell the grandkids about'. Well it is, yeah. He probably scored one of the most dramatic goals in a Championship Play Off Semi Final, I would say that was a tale pretty worthy of recanting to grandchildren- as would be any career high points in professional football in the upper echoleans of English football for most players. I find that elitism so funny, especially from fans who by location/fortune support one of the biggest clubs in the world. It's easy for millions of people to support Arsenal, coz they're successful and are always at or near the top, but it's a lot lot harder for individual players to make it to those sort of clubs because only so many players are needed in a squad of Arsenal's but it certainly doesn't make them shit or not worthy of talking football.

Football is so fucking sanitised now. He said some truthful shit about Arsenal after they'd beaten them, big deal! They'll get a chance to put it right at the Emirates in the second half of the season. Perhaps he's even done them a favour, because it's a pretty disappointing allegation that you'd want to go out and prove wasn't true isn't it?

[Gerry Attrick]

I see Danny Murphy has said Gabriel Jesus is the best young player he's seen since Messi. No pressure there then!

[CowboyKangaroo]

I don't disagree with him, but why give the media a quote like that? Take the high ground and deflect the question.

I do disagree with him. "There's a reason they lost and it wasn't because of one penalty". Yes, they did. That's how football works. If you win by one goal, and that goal is a penalty, the penalty is why you lost, same as any other goal conceded.
And while the whole "Cajones" rubbish is mostly just puff without any substantial claims made, its under lying philosophy and understanding of football its totally off base.
Football is not just about wanting it more, or having more grit and determination than the other side, and the fact that most English players think it is, is why England will never win anything of note.
Arsenal lost because some of their players didn't play very well, the tactics weren't right, and because a softish penalty was given.

[b_joseph]

'cos he's a prick and a stupid one to boot - a clever player does what he does without advertising - instead he's put a nice target on his back

And the consequences will be what? Is he going to lose his job? No...will his teammates not back him up? No.

He plays for a team that will be happy to finish mid table. There is little that can be done to bother him and thats why its easier to come out and speak in that manner.

Of course winning matches goes deeper than ''who wants it more''. But, that a player would openly say, what he said, about a team that will finish 20+ points ahead of his club, is quite telling of how the league views Arsenal.
Its the Ferguson ''lads, its Tottenham''. Yes, United were better than TH but some teams just garner a reputation for being weak...rightly or wrongly.

[Nick110581]

Any streams for Everton?

[Rush 82]

And the consequences will be what? Is he going to lose his job? No...will his teammates not back him up? No.

He plays for a team that will be happy to finish mid table. There is little that can be done to bother him and thats why its easier to come out and speak in that manner.

Of course winning matches goes deeper than ''who wants it more''. But, that a player would openly say, what he said, about a team that will finish 20+ points ahead of his club, is quite telling of how the league views Arsenal.
Its the Ferguson ''lads, its Tottenham''. Yes, United were better than TH but some teams just garner a reputation for being weak...rightly or wrongly.

It's 'trash talk' - WWE style or Floyd - Mayweather

Each to their own I suppose

[sms1986]

Any streams for Everton?

https://www.reddit.com/r/soccerstreams/comments/76ievz/1230_gmt_brighton_hove_albion_fc_vs_everton_fc/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=soccerstreams has some.