Topic: General Political discussion with kesey-style vibes & tantric breathing stuff...

[Lush is the best medicine...]

He's a twat and anybody who went out of their way to be at that speech is a wanker 

i hope the ones who were bussed in were at least given sandwiches and panda pops

[WhereAngelsPlay]

i hope the ones who were bussed in were at least given sandwiches and panda pops

The sandwiches were made but Corbyn ate the lot on the way.

[Dr. Beaker]

The sandwiches were made but Corbyn ate the lot on the way.

And then raped and murdered them all so they didn't have to bus them back hehehe.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

And then raped and murdered them all so they didn't have to bus them back hehehe.

All to help the Co2 emissions.

[Red Beret]

All to help the Co2 emissions.

Now now. There are good Co2 emissions on both sides.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

The sandwiches were made but seumas ate the lot on the way.

fixed

[Lush is the best medicine...]

https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1099315656003108865?s=21

So stupid it hurts

[classycarra]

https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1099315656003108865?s=21

So stupid it hurts

Can just imagine some of the sad bastards cheering along with that. How embarrassing for all of them.

[Zeb]

Tables not yet available.

CON  40 (+3)
LAB   32 (-5)
UKIP   7 (-)
TIG      6
LD       5 (-3)


Opinium polled 2,008 people online, Feb 20-22.

(via Observer's Michael Savage)

Results should be in Observer tomorrow too.

[BoRed]

CON  40 (+3)
LAB   32 (-5)
UKIP   7 (-)
TIG      6
LD       5 (-3)

Great. So Article 50 gets extended, we get a new general election, a Tory landslide, and a hard Brexit. TIG playing a blinder.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Great. So Article 50 gets extended, we get a new general election, a Tory landslide, and a hard Brexit. TIG playing a blinder.

Yeah it is all their fault 

[Sangria]

Great. So Article 50 gets extended, we get a new general election, a Tory landslide, and a hard Brexit. TIG playing a blinder.

Corbyn just push for a second referendum you know. As the members directed him to. He was supposed to have done so after the vote of no confidence in the government, which was over a month ago. More time has passed since that vote than is left until we leave. Labour policy is, as Corbyn fans have proudly been telling us, made by members. So why is this an exception?

[Team Sleep]

Brutal critique of Theresa May by Matthew Parris:

https://twitter.com/arusbridger/status/1099331886348947456

[Zeb]

Anyone overly concerned that Labour will be unable to fend off TIG's appeal to potential voters could always join the Conservatives. That way they'd be assured of a say on the next Tory leader and the course of Brexit. That TIG is even mentioned is worthy of note, it's not like it's actually a 'thing' yet even, just people saying of their own initiative that's who they'd like to vote for. As Red Berry said, anti-UKIP.

edit: words are hard.

[TepidT2O]

Brutal critique of Theresa May by Matthew Parris:

https://twitter.com/arusbridger/status/1099331886348947456

matthew Parris is a superb political comentator.

When he puts the boot in, you know it’s really bad.

[RobinHood]

Word on Twitter is that EU and People’s Vote flags were banned from Corbyn’s Broxtowe rally today.

[John C]

Brutal critique of Theresa May by Matthew Parris:

That is fucking damning, but more so annoyin. We're on the precipice of changing our nation and our children's future irreversibly and before this week most people on both sides of the House remain locked in their own cuntish, selfish, affluent bubbles.

[TepidT2O]

If only there were some explanation?



Still, getting rid of Corbyn won’t help if you get McDonnel or similar in return. And given the change in selection rules it’s almost impossible not to have a fuckwit going up

[Alan_X]

https://twitter.com/jamin2g/status/1099301508418596864?s=21

A skinny bearded vegan trump here, the life long anti racism campaigner that doesn’t want to talk about racism

Corbyn: As you may have noticed, the MSM can be hostile. I did an interview for Sky and they kept asking me about racism and why people were leaving the party, rather than things I wanted to talk about.

How very dare they! Asking him questions about things he didn't want to talk about. You don't get that on RT or Iranian State TV or when you do a phone in with the Venezuelan President... Scandalous behaviour by the MSM state  Jewish-controlled media.

[west_london_red]

If only there were some explanation?



Still, getting rid of Corbyn won’t help if you get McDonnel or similar in return. And given the change in selection rules it’s almost impossible not to have a fuckwit going up

McDonnel does seem to be conducting himself rather well of late in comparison to the others. He’s definitely positioning himself as the heir I think.

[Alan_X]

I'll just leave this here....

[Alan_X]

and this...

[TepidT2O]

McDonnel does seem to be conducting himself rather well of late in comparison to the others. He’s definitely positioning himself as the heir I think.

Hes far worse than Corbyn.  If you are fooled by his act then you haven’t read much about him.

[Alan_X]

Brutal critique of Theresa May by Matthew Parris:

https://twitter.com/arusbridger/status/1099331886348947456

And Corbyn is her mirror image on the left.

What a time to be alive. Possibly the two shittest leaders ever in the history of British politics as leaders of the two main parties...

[Alan_X]

Hes far worse than Corbyn.  If you are fooled by his act then you haven’t read much about him.

I had as brief moment when I thought he might be a better leader than Corbyn. I'm over it now.

[Red-Soldier]

and this...

That's fucking brilliant 

[Red Beret]

Great. So Article 50 gets extended, we get a new general election, a Tory landslide, and a hard Brexit. TIG playing a blinder.

Hes far worse than Corbyn.  If you are fooled by his act then you haven’t read much about him.

Think the point there was that McDonnell is just playing things much smarter than Corbyn, which is what makes him dangerous.

[ShakaHislop]

and this...

[ShakaHislop]

Labour resignations: Defectors betrayed seats, says Thornberry

A group of MPs who left Labour have "betrayed" their seats and would be "crushed" if by-elections were held, the shadow foreign secretary has said.

Emily Thornberry accused eight MPs who quit the party to form The Independent Group in the Commons of going to "cuddle up to Tories on the benches".

She told a Labour rally in Broxtowe she would rather die than join a new party.

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson has said the defections are a cause for regret and reflection, not anger.

But Ms Thornberry accused the Labour MPs of having had "the cheek to reject our new manifesto and our new leader".

She said: "It was our manifesto and our leader that gave them the huge majorities that they now have in their seats - those seats they have betrayed by their actions."

"If our new independent splitters have got the guts to have by-elections, we will crush them."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47346008

#notacult
#notacult
#notacult

[Alan_X]

Labour resignations: Defectors betrayed seats, says Thornberry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47346008

#notacult
#notacult
#notacult

Personally, I am made up that the Labour leadership are having rallies in marginal seats five weeks before we crash out of Europe. It's great to see that they have their eyes on the prize and aren't being distracted by self-inflicted internal party issues...

#utterc*nts

[Zeb]

Labour resignations: Defectors betrayed seats, says Thornberry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47346008

Hmmm.

From:

https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/17/state-hate-2019-executive-summary/

A narrative of ‘betrayal’ and ‘traitors’ increasingly dominates the far right’s discourse, with much of their anger focused on MPs – and female MPs in particular.

Continued decline of the traditional ideological far-right and the rise of an emotionally driven, conspiratorial populist message

This isn't good.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Some bad dickheads in wavertree

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/23/liverpool-wavertree-labour-constituency-antisemitism-luciana-berger-derek-hatton

Stephen Brown, who supplements his pension by selling sausages to the local pubs, also said he was sad Berger was gone. “She didn’t deserve to be treated that way,” he said, adding as an unthinking afterthought, “even though she is Jewish.”

Like most people I encountered, Brown is a diehard Labour supporter, but not one particularly aware of antisemitic issues, including his own. “I’ve got nothing against Jeremy Corbyn,” he said, “but he got into bed with the wrong Jews.” What did that mean? “The high rollers,” he explained.

Clare McIntyre, one of Labour’s three councillors in Wavertree, told me that she dreaded going to party meetings because she had been subjected to a campaign of harassment. Though an avowed socialist who has twice voted for Corbyn, she says she has fallen foul of the Momentum group which, according to her, has a stranglehold on the CLP executive.

Her crime, she said, was to have supported Berger against antisemitic attacks – “I’ve seen up close the sheer level of abuse and racism she’s suffered” – and to question why Corbyn wasn’t doing more to tackle the issue.

She has also been a vocal critic of Hatton, pointing to his proposal that rape victims should be named in court if their alleged attackers were found not guilty as a sign of deep-seated misogyny. She sees his attempted return as symbolic of a larger and more disturbing trend.

“There are plenty of other Derek Hattons in the Wavertree constituency party but nothing seems to happen despite numerous complaints. I think Momentum in Liverpool is a mask for Militant. There are decent Momentum people and then there are the others who have their own agenda. … Militant haven’t gone away. They’re just the same people with bus passes now.”

Anne Maloney, a retired teacher who lives in one of the elegant houses, is not a party member, but she’s a loyal Labour voter. What did she make of Berger as an MP? “I wrote to her once,” she told me.

What about? “Palestine. I firmly believe Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian territories. She wrote back saying she supported the Palestinian people. But I didn’t think she was campaigning for the Palestinians. The problem is any criticism of Israel is always seen as antisemitism.”

Her neighbour, a woman in her 40s who didn’t want to give her name, concurred. She said that she voted Green and had never agreed with Derek Hatton but, as a supporter of the Palestinians, she couldn’t see what was wrong with his tweet. Had she read it? “A summary of it, yes.”

The original wasn’t long. It stated: “Jewish people with any sense of humanity need to start speaking out publicly against the ruthless murdering being carried out by Israel!”

Essentially, Hatton did what the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance defines as a concrete example of antisemitism: “Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.”

His tweet rendered them guilty until proven innocent. If they didn’t condemn Israel, they had no humanity. And what happens in history when we strip a minority of its humanity?

“Well, yes,” said the woman. “Perhaps he went too far, but there are two sides to every story.”

It’s been often said that Corbyn has to find a way of uniting the metropolitan middle class and the disaffected northern working-class Labour voters. In Wavertree, there are signs of an unholy alliance taking shape between those on the wrong end of austerity, who associate Jews with wealth and power, and bourgeois radicals who view Jews through the prism of Palestine.

Not one person I spoke to would think of themselves as antisemitic, but perhaps it’s the unreflective denial that is enabling antisemitism to thrive in the shade.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Hmmm.

From:
This isn't good.

hes the trump of the hard left, thankfully the mask is slipping

If only there were some explanation?



Still, getting rid of Corbyn won’t help if you get McDonnel or similar in return. And given the change in selection rules it’s almost impossible not to have a fuckwit going up

if corbyn goes it’ll likely be one of McDonnell (very dangerous person, just look up his past), long Bailey (thick as fuck), Rayner (thinks vegetarians can eat fish), thornberry (utter fucknugget who’s a liability and a smug twat as well), burgon (genuinely impressed that he can tie his own shoelaces, or so I hear) or even Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis - someone like starmer would have no chance amongst the current membership so it’s that death spiral continuing

[Alan_X]

Some bad dickheads in wavertree

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/23/liverpool-wavertree-labour-constituency-antisemitism-luciana-berger-derek-hatton

"Not one person I spoke to would think of themselves as antisemitic, but perhaps it’s the unreflective denial that is enabling antisemitism to thrive in the shade."

As I've said before. The definition of institutional racism.

[classycarra]

Word on Twitter is that EU and People’s Vote flags were banned from Corbyn’s Broxtowe rally today.

Was wondering if there’d be a lot of the gammon, as Trada used to term his fellow brexiteers (but from the right). Can imagine there’s a share hatred for the remain MP

[Lush is the best medicine...]

"Not one person I spoke to would think of themselves as antisemitic, but perhaps it’s the unreflective denial that is enabling antisemitism to thrive in the shade."

As I've said before. The definition of institutional racism.

its all a bit ‘I’m not racist but I’d rather my daughter not bring home a black man’

[Alan_X]

hes the trump of the hard left, thankfully the mask is slipping
if corbyn goes it’ll likely be one of McDonnell (very dangerous person, just look up his past), long Bailey (thick as fuck), Rayner (thinks vegetarians can eat fish), thornberry (utter fucknugget who’s a liability and a smug twat as well), burgon (genuinely impressed that he can tie his own shoelaces, or so I hear) or even Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis - someone like starmer would have no chance amongst the current membership so it’s that death spiral continuing

I think it's between McDonnell or Long-Bailey. McDonnell is desperate to be leader. He clearly thinks Corbyn is a useless c*nt but daren't say it. Long-Bailey is as you say, thick as fuck, but given the uncritical brain-dead cult that the Labour party membership has become that is unlikely to be seen as a problem.

[ShakaHislop]

hes the trump of the hard left, thankfully the mask is slipping
if corbyn goes it’ll likely be one of McDonnell (very dangerous person, just look up his past), long Bailey (thick as fuck), Rayner (thinks vegetarians can eat fish), thornberry (utter fucknugget who’s a liability and a smug twat as well), burgon (genuinely impressed that he can tie his own shoelaces, or so I hear) or even Clive ‘on your knees bitch’ Lewis - someone like starmer would have no chance amongst the current membership so it’s that death spiral continuing

Pidcock is more likely than Burgon or Lewis.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

I think it's between McDonnell or Long-Bailey. McDonnell is desperate to be leader. He clearly thinks Corbyn is a useless c*nt but daren't say it. Long-Bailey is as you say, thick as fuck, but given the uncritical brain-dead cult that the Labour party membership has become that is unlikely to be seen as a problem.

i reckon it’ll be long Bailey (who is female and doesn’t have the baggage of McDonnell) will get it and the likes of Milne and McDonnell can work in the background knowing they can do what they like as she’s not exactly the sharpest as McDonnell would fail bigtime as leader as the public would detest a man like him where his act is so obviously transparent now

Pidcock is more likely than Burgon or Lewis.

If she became leader after two years and no major brief (which the other two have had) then it would show what a terrible place they’re in

[Dr. Beaker]

That's fucking brilliant 

And people say he's the left's Trump. Bollocks.

If it had been a growler shot, fair enough.