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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6160 on: April 12, 2024, 02:34:29 pm »
I found it utterly mental we decided to keep trying to put Elliot in behind with his lack of pace, then Salah came on and we didn't do it once.
Because they adapted their tactics to the players we had on the pitch.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6161 on: April 12, 2024, 02:51:07 pm »
Because they adapted their tactics to the players we had on the pitch.

Nope they man marked all game.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6162 on: April 12, 2024, 02:55:35 pm »
Nope they man marked all game.
They dropped deeper when Mo came on.

Tactically, they were very good. It was clear that they did their homework.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6163 on: April 13, 2024, 09:12:44 am »
At this present moment in time, he's not a starter. He is far more effective from the bench whether he likes it or not.

It's not that black and white for me, and I said the same when people were arguing he should be starting every game.

He suits certain types of games, those that are more open and those where the opposition doesn't leave their box for 90 minutes. That's why he's really good off the bench, usually when he comes on either the game is stretches or the other team are penned into their own defensive third.

The Atalanta game was pretty much the worst fit for him, and moving him into the front three just compounded the issue as we left ourselves with little space to exploit on the rare occasion that we beat their press.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6164 on: April 13, 2024, 09:19:07 am »
He was inches away from scoring and he created a good chance that was skied. If the scoreline was favourable then the narrative changes.I would start him in the middle but he did a lot better than some of our out of form players. Szobo, for example, came into the game and stunk the gaff out while Grav is still adapting and Jones is rusty.

On the balance of performances,  he deserves to start when the alternatives are considered. Losing 3-0 doesn't mean everybody played poorly but performances are seen in a more negative light when we lose just like how felt Gakpo had a poor game.
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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6165 on: April 13, 2024, 10:29:47 am »
I just think its proper weird to play him where Salah plays, how Salah plays and expect Salah levels.

If Elliot is playing right forward you need your right back overlapping creating the width allowing Elliot to come inside and use his brilliant crossing ability and through the lines passing. Inverting Gomez and playing Elliot on the wing was another of the bizzare set ups we've seen too many times.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6166 on: April 14, 2024, 04:27:37 pm »
The under use of him in midfield the last couple of months has made no sense

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6167 on: April 14, 2024, 04:29:07 pm »
What this fella needs to do for a run of games in midfield, I have no idea. Don't understand him being behind Endo, Szobo and Jones in the pecking order, given his recent performances.

And the idea of being a Salah deputy in this system, with his skill set, is completely lost on me.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6168 on: April 14, 2024, 04:29:55 pm »
The under use of him in midfield the last couple of months has made no sense
Yep been baffling to me. Not really been given the chance to show his great sub appearances can be prolonged over 90 mins. So no one can say he’s better off the bench, he’s not had chance to prove that one way or the other
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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6169 on: April 14, 2024, 04:33:29 pm »
The under use of him in midfield the last couple of months has made no sense

Just all round weird use - started games he probably shouldn't and in positions he's not great in as well, but in games you think he'd excel in he's not getting a sniff.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6170 on: April 14, 2024, 10:41:11 pm »
harvey used to be klopps go to sub whenever he made changes

strange how he didnt come on sooner today

we need more creativity from midfield next season

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Re: Harvey Elliott (Harvey Daniel James Elliott)
« Reply #6171 on: April 14, 2024, 10:47:38 pm »
Bizarre utilisation of him to be honest (and Gakpo at the moment IMO), he’s always showing positive drive, influence on the game and decisive actions but he ends up back on the bench hoping to get afforded enough time to change the game

It’s 100% born out of frustration but I was so annoyed seeing him coming on with 10 to go, just felt a bit like he was being tasked with way too much with way too little time to pull it off