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News and Current Affairs / Re: Never mind 'Stop the Boats' - STOP THE TORIES
« Last post by oldfordie on Today at 02:13:52 pm »The numbers will inevitably drop in the winter due to the weather. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Tories try and time the first flights so that they can point at that drop as evidence that the policy is working.Some good points, not sure how many come for economic reasons but am sure that must be at the back of the Torys minds. something to think about.
FWIW I think the policy will work to an extent as it will likely discourage the proportion of migrants who are travelling for economic reasons. The problem then though is that the policy ends up being targeted at the most vulnerable migrants who are either desperate enough to still make the crossing or isolated enough from any information that they are not aware of the risk of being sent on to Rwanda. Then you also have the issue of whether it is right that the policy should be used retrospectively on people who have already arrived in the UK before its introduction.
One other thought - whilst the Tory rhetoric on this is grim I think it is important to acknowledge that this issue is one where a great deal of the responsibility lies with Western Europe as a whole rather than just the UK Tories. You never hear a lot of talk about what responsibility France bears for making its country so inhospitable and hostile that people are forced into small boats to cross the channel to escape from there.
What annoys me is this stop the boats dates back to when we left the EU, the Torys incompetence created a new opportunity for criminal gangs to make real money, we are stuck with that for many years to come. the Torys attitude towards France and the rest of the EU caused a lot of friction, Labour were saying this a few yrs back, the Torys were insulting France, they needed to ask for Frances co-operation to stop people leaving in the boats. something the Torys looked at as crawling to the EU, Patel lied many times over setting up Visa application posts when Labour were telling them people are coming on boats because you haven't set up visas application posts, Patel lied and said she had done, all she did was talk nasty and tough instead of actually solving the problem. Braverman carried it on, talk nasty and tough while doing nothing to stop it. I couldn't blame France if they told us to piss off after the way the Torys Brexit nutters ridiculed them.
I think you maybe jumping to a few conclusions though, some already have family here, some can speak English better than French but yeah. afaik. benefits are given quicker here.
Am not going to look for the stats right now but don't France take in far more refugees than us?
). we should worry about how we play in it. 