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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #760 on: October 24, 2011, 10:05:39 am »

Another reference to the mysterious Knotty Ash ales from way earlier in the thread.

From Google it seems the Parrot has shut down though streetview shows it still open having been taken a few years ago. Don't remember ever going in there myself.

That last photo of the RC Cathedral under construction brought back memories.

I'm sure we were told at the time that the crane was the largest ( maybe tallest?) of that type in Europe.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #761 on: October 24, 2011, 10:24:03 am »
Not old, but an interesting collection of photo's here ... http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/liverpool/liverpool.htm
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #762 on: October 24, 2011, 01:22:49 pm »
Not old, but an interesting collection of photo's here ... http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/liverpool/liverpool.htm

Love the one of the tobacco warehouse. My great uncle used to work at the furnace (king's pipe) after he retired from the merc.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #763 on: October 24, 2011, 09:31:02 pm »
Another reference to the mysterious Knotty Ash ales from way earlier in the thread.

From Google it seems the Parrot has shut down though streetview shows it still open having been taken a few years ago. Don't remember ever going in there myself.

This is how the Parrot looks now.

Like many of our City's pubs, down on it's luck and a bit worse for wear.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #764 on: October 27, 2011, 12:14:01 pm »
For the train spotters.....c/o  here  http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #765 on: October 27, 2011, 05:55:41 pm »

The Titfield Thunderbolt!

Took part in the 150th at Edge Hill but now never to steam again but it's going to be on display at The Liverpool Museum this December ... http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/galleries/portcity/
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #766 on: October 29, 2011, 07:47:39 pm »
Hi all, these are photos of my fathers grandfather's fruit shop in smithdown rd from the 1920s.
my fathers Dad then moved to Anglesey as a young man and that where we have stayed lol.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #767 on: October 29, 2011, 09:34:15 pm »
cheers for that dyfs, love seeing the old shop fronts and their wares.

 It sells ladies undies now !
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #768 on: October 29, 2011, 09:44:14 pm »
does it!

ill tell my Dad tomorrow!

He came  to the docks on friday to the new Liverpool life musuem.
thinks i might go sometime.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #769 on: November 3, 2011, 09:25:37 pm »
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #770 on: November 14, 2011, 08:02:27 pm »
Found this on wiki.  A 1938 503 train on the New Brighton route.  These trains weren't retired until the 1980s.  I actually remember getting them to New Brighton when I was a kid so it stirred up some good memories for me.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #771 on: November 15, 2011, 12:30:45 pm »
Could do with some of that 'age regression' stuff for these...I must know them..but I don't  :(


taken from here, http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #772 on: November 15, 2011, 01:21:48 pm »
Could do with some of that 'age regression' stuff for these...I must know them..but I don't  :(


taken from here, http://streetsofliverpool.co.uk/

That's the Playhouse in the background of that top pic mate.  Williamson Square will be just out of shot on the right; the picture itself was probably taken from Hood Street, roughly where the Merseytravel rotunda is now.  Straight ahead would be roughly where the escalator is to St John's Market, so to the left the building with the 'Bristol' sign on it is probably where the Lloyds Bar/Wetherspoons is today.

Everything looks so much simpler and cleaner and happier in those pictures.  It saddens me. :(
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #773 on: November 15, 2011, 01:27:58 pm »


Everything looks so much simpler and cleaner and happier in those pictures.  It saddens me. :(
and more quiet.
Judging by the lack of life, I reckon that picture had to have been taken on a Sunday after the mid - afternoon pub locks..

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #774 on: November 15, 2011, 01:33:10 pm »
Looking at that top pic again I reckon the shadow is from the old Theatre Royal that was knocked down during the construction of St John's Market.  That's about where the LFC shop is now.  :-[

http://www.old-liverpool.co.uk/theatres.html
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #775 on: November 15, 2011, 04:33:19 pm »
Fab pictures Terry.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #776 on: November 15, 2011, 04:36:33 pm »
Not always old photo's but an interesting site:

http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #777 on: November 15, 2011, 04:43:35 pm »
Fab pictures Terry.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #778 on: November 16, 2011, 08:19:45 pm »
Found this on wiki.  A 1938 503 train on the New Brighton route.  These trains weren't retired until the 1980s.  I actually remember getting them to New Brighton when I was a kid so it stirred up some good memories for me.



I remember going on those when I was a kid too
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #779 on: November 16, 2011, 09:13:58 pm »
Vic used to get these on the Southport line when he was a kid....



 ;D

Those 503's I rarely got on, wrong side of the water for me, I was on the ex LMS 502's on the Southport line, proper trains with buffers and screw link couplings....

Back in the 60's they were great, all green with small yellow end panels, and they had 1st class compartments that you could go in provided you nipped out of them at the stops if it looked like an inspector was coming.

In late 69 or so, the line went all 2nd class and the rolling stock got painted blue, but there was a changeover period of a couple of years when the 1st class upholstery was still in situ in them. Luxury....

The compartments were even lined with more exotic wooden panels with little plaques telling you where in the world the wood was from, and also had pictures in frames on the walls inside.



All destroyed and burnt when they got withdrawn.

We seem to be quite adept on Merseyside at destroying our heritage.

It seems a shame that the sole survivors of the 502's seem to be now in this condition....



The NRM purchased them off the Southport steamport when it closed years back but then left them outside unloved and exposed to the elements for years so they crumbled quite quickly with no maintenance.

It seems they are now up in Cumbria and hopefully will get restored to their former glory sometime.

More here for anyone interested ... http://www.class502.org.uk/history/  and... http://www.railwayforum.net/showthread.php?t=7715


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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #780 on: November 17, 2011, 12:01:04 pm »


THAT'S the interior I remember.  It was just so damned classy and it was all part of the magic of a trip to New Brighton for an 8 year old.  I remember the the little light fixtures fitted to the bulkhead behind the cabs.  Really elegant little fluted glass, like snowdrops.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #781 on: November 17, 2011, 12:13:58 pm »
Vic used to get these on the Southport line when he was a kid....



 ;D

Those 503's I rarely got on, wrong side of the water for me, I was on the ex LMS 502's on the Southport line, proper trains with buffers and screw link couplings....

Back in the 60's they were great, all green with small yellow end panels, and they had 1st class compartments that you could go in provided you nipped out of them at the stops if it looked like an inspector was coming.

In late 69 or so, the line went all 2nd class and the rolling stock got painted blue, but there was a changeover period of a couple of years when the 1st class upholstery was still in situ in them. Luxury....

The compartments were even lined with more exotic wooden panels with little plaques telling you where in the world the wood was from, and also had pictures in frames on the walls inside.



All destroyed and burnt when they got withdrawn.

We seem to be quite adept on Merseyside at destroying our heritage.

It seems a shame that the sole survivors of the 502's seem to be now in this condition....



The NRM purchased them off the Southport steamport when it closed years back but then left them outside unloved and exposed to the elements for years so they crumbled quite quickly with no maintenance.

It seems they are now up in Cumbria and hopefully will get restored to their former glory sometime.

More here for anyone interested ... http://www.class502.org.uk/history/  and... http://www.railwayforum.net/showthread.php?t=7715



Vic used to get these on the Southport line when he was a kid....



 ;D

Those 503's I rarely got on, wrong side of the water for me, I was on the ex LMS 502's on the Southport line, proper trains with buffers and screw link couplings....

Back in the 60's they were great, all green with small yellow end panels, and they had 1st class compartments that you could go in provided you nipped out of them at the stops if it looked like an inspector was coming.

In late 69 or so, the line went all 2nd class and the rolling stock got painted blue, but there was a changeover period of a couple of years when the 1st class upholstery was still in situ in them. Luxury....

The compartments were even lined with more exotic wooden panels with little plaques telling you where in the world the wood was from, and also had pictures in frames on the walls inside.



All destroyed and burnt when they got withdrawn.

We seem to be quite adept on Merseyside at destroying our heritage.

It seems a shame that the sole survivors of the 502's seem to be now in this condition....



The NRM purchased them off the Southport steamport when it closed years back but then left them outside unloved and exposed to the elements for years so they crumbled quite quickly with no maintenance.

It seems they are now up in Cumbria and hopefully will get restored to their former glory sometime.

More here for anyone interested ... http://www.class502.org.uk/history/  and... http://www.railwayforum.net/showthread.php?t=7715


You´re not wrong Gully mate, Southport, Ainsdale, loved going on that train, I also loved the overhead railway, me grandad used to take me on it, showed me the docks he worked in and protected during the second world war when he was in the home guard, putting out the fires. You know somebody on here said something that is a terrible shame, the Liverpool authorities have a wonderful knack of fucking up our history and sadly it is true.
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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #782 on: November 17, 2011, 12:16:27 pm »
Ta Gayle. I see you're finding your way around..  ;)

So that's your new fit mate then eh!? ;)

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« Reply #783 on: November 17, 2011, 04:26:31 pm »

You´re not wrong Gully mate, Southport, Ainsdale, loved going on that train, I also loved the overhead railway, me grandad used to take me on it, showed me the docks he worked in and protected during the second world war when he was in the home guard, putting out the fires. You know somebody on here said something that is a terrible shame, the Liverpool authorities have a wonderful knack of fucking up our history and sadly it is true.

That may have been me lol.  Been going on for centuries - like when they demolished the remains of Liverpool Castle because vagrants were sleeping in there - a lot of important people protested that at the time as well.  And when they wanted to knock down all but the tower of the bombed out church so they could put in a flyover.  :butt

On the subject of the overhead railway, there's some cracking videos on You tube.  Including the world's first tracking shot by the French Lumiére Brothers (link only, as embed doesn't seem to work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5ApsjD46o

Film of the OR in t he 50s:

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Then there's this, which is a rather neat CG version of the OR (again, linke only as the embed doesn't seem to work): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyycp23Tuqs

And just some random film of old Liverpool:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/LHs-CgWfT3U&amp;feature=fvsr" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/LHs-CgWfT3U&amp;feature=fvsr</a>

I think it's criminal that so little footage of the Overhead Railway actually exists.

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« Reply #784 on: November 17, 2011, 04:37:05 pm »
Found another one:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/2913oZVvkL8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/2913oZVvkL8</a>

And here's a few piccies I have on facebook of some of the few remaining chunks I've found.  They're on my facebook so I hope you can see them:







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« Reply #785 on: November 17, 2011, 06:42:56 pm »
So that's your new fit mate then eh!? ;)

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #786 on: November 17, 2011, 10:24:42 pm »
The winter of '63, never to be forgotten by those 'lucky' enough to have been there...this is from Wavertree.org.uk. and shows Sefton Park lake. click to enlarge





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« Reply #787 on: November 17, 2011, 10:36:30 pm »
another one from the same site as above, link attached ..http://www.wavertree.org.uk/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,121/



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« Reply #788 on: November 18, 2011, 09:43:59 am »
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« Reply #789 on: November 19, 2011, 02:29:49 pm »
I think it's criminal that so little footage of the Overhead Railway actually exists.

this vid never ceases to fascinate me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyycp23Tuqs
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« Reply #790 on: November 19, 2011, 02:56:48 pm »
this vid never ceases to fascinate me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyycp23Tuqs
Brilliant  :thumbup

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« Reply #791 on: November 19, 2011, 06:24:42 pm »
nice one Richie...still can't work out how to embed vids!
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« Reply #792 on: November 19, 2011, 07:04:45 pm »

...still can't work out how to embed vids!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyycp23Tuqs

Surround the Youtube id, the bit I've bolded in your post above ie nyycp23Tuqs  and put it in the following line like this..
 
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Take out the space immediately between the first [ and the word flash at the beginning of that line, (I've only put a space in it so you can actually see the code displayed in this post and I've also ^ arrowed it on the line below) and when you then post or preview it, magically it becomes...

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You can save that line in a text file on your desktop or wherever you want, then in the future if you want to post an embedded video, simply copy the youtube id part from your browser, paste it into the line in your text file, then copy the whole line from your text file and simply paste it into your rawk post.

Try it....



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« Reply #793 on: November 19, 2011, 07:45:24 pm »
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« Reply #794 on: November 19, 2011, 08:22:09 pm »
I think I'm one of the few on here that can legitimately lay claim to having been on the Overhead, although unlike Vic, sadly I have no memory of it as I was just too young.

According to my Mum, my Dad took me on it just before it closed forever in '56.

I don't even think I was one at the time but he thought it might be important some day for me to have known I'd travelled on it.

I do clearly remember a lot more wreckage though after the closure. We used to go to the beach at Waterloo in the summer back in the late 50's and early 60's, seems daft now but it was a big day out for us from West Derby back then.

On a few occasions for some reason we drove back along the dock road into town before heading off back home to L12. I have pretty clear memories of seeing many of the supporting pillars for the OH still being in situ back then, looking like an opened ribcage down the road, though none of the decking was in place by then.  I guess it would be around '58 or so. The only reason I remember it so vividly is because as a little child I was fascinated by all aspects of engineering, ships, trains, trams, bridges, cranes, aircraft etc, and I was playing with meccano from almost when I could first talk, and so things like the OH remains were visually rather important to me.

I'm not sure now if they are good memories to have any more, that of the dismantling of so much of what made the Liverpool of my childhood, the OH, the docks, the busy railways everywhere, the hustle and bustle of a city with industries and seemingly with a purpose, so much now gone by the wreckers crane and ball.

 
 
I don't do polite so fuck yoursalf with your stupid accusations...

Right you fuckwit I will show you why you are talking out of your fat arse...

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #795 on: November 19, 2011, 09:19:23 pm »
Can anyone recommend a good book / dvd to buy me dad for crimbo, he loves looking at old photos n that of Liverpool (as do i!!) I bought him of time and the city recently.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #796 on: November 21, 2011, 12:30:45 am »
Ta Gayle. I see you're finding your way around..  ;)


yeah, getting there i reckon  ;)

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #797 on: November 21, 2011, 06:38:13 pm »
Can anyone recommend a good book / dvd to buy me dad for crimbo, he loves looking at old photos n that of Liverpool (as do i!!) I bought him of time and the city recently.
What part of Liverpool is originally from, himself?

I bought - The Lost Tribes Of Everton -  for my arl fella, last year, which is a good book.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #798 on: November 21, 2011, 08:10:33 pm »


Everything looks so much simpler and cleaner and happier in those pictures.  It saddens me. :(

Know what you mean mate but compare it to that picture from the same site of the girl lying in bed covered in newspapers, made me want to weep that.

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Re: Old photos of and around Liverpool
« Reply #799 on: November 21, 2011, 11:14:10 pm »

yeah, getting there i reckon  ;)

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i doubt Terry has had time to mention this but it's traditional for a new member to post a piccie of themselves Gayle, normally in swimwear  8)