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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1000 on: November 28, 2008, 05:34:05 pm »
You mean you didnt trawl through threads to see where i said he played well? i think i actually did. But then again even bruno cheyrou scored a few important goals.

he's injured...again......really neil, is this the type of player that you think is one of the best LBs in the PL?? I dont think so.

has been very good for us, top player.  he cannot prevent his injuries.  it's like saying Torres is useless because he's been injured 3 times this season, maybe we should sell him out of this frustration? or maybe we recognise he's a class player who's worth his place in the team when fit



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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1001 on: November 28, 2008, 05:40:59 pm »
You mean you didnt trawl through threads to see where i said he played well? i think i actually did. But then again even bruno cheyrou scored a few important goals.

he's injured...again......really neil, is this the type of player that you think is one of the best LBs in the PL?? I dont think so.
I'm inclined to agree. As much as I like the guy, you can never rely on him to stay fit throughout the season. Finally proving his worth and he's out again.
I wouldn't sell him, but you need a very good no.2 to replace hime which and we don't have one.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1002 on: November 28, 2008, 05:47:40 pm »
You mean you didnt trawl through threads to see where i said he played well? i think i actually did. But then again even bruno cheyrou scored a few important goals.

he's injured...again......really neil, is this the type of player that you think is one of the best LBs in the PL?? I dont think so.

You didn't post it in this thread, where we normally talk about Aurelio. I didn't trawl through your posts, because I didn't see the point - I know you don't rate him. 

But now you've mentioned it I've just had a look now at your post history and I can't see where you have given him any praise since we last discussed him. So after two very good games where he got two assists you said nothing, not one remark, not one bit of praise, or even "I don't rate him but fair enough he has been playing well and that was a lovely assist today". So it looks like you didn't say he played well and you're a liar, as well as a poor judge of a player.

Injuries have no bearing on the quality of a player - the example of Torres this season proves that, or Ronaldo, one of the best strikers the world has ever seen, who has been plagued by recurring injuries his whole career.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1003 on: November 28, 2008, 06:47:14 pm »
Azer does not give praise because I believe that he is too proud to back down.

As for injuries, it happens to the best of them. Has no bearing on what kind of a player they are or how much ability they have. It's like saying that Playstation that you've adored for years is 'shite' when it gives up the ghost. Just because it broke doesn't mean it's any less good. It just means that it broke. When it's fixed it'll still be good...

...just like Fabio will still be good when he's fixed. Of course, he will in all likelihood break down again but that's not his fault. As Rafa said today, they try not to play him for more than two or three games in a row and that works for him. He's more or less played for six because needs must, because Dossena has been poor, because we've needed him.  If his back up was better and more reliable we would not need him to play so many games, allowing him to maintain his fitness and offer the team the vast amounts he offers it and minimising the risk of injury to what we all know is an injury prone player.

To say he's second rate simply because he cannot be trusted to stay fit makes no sense, though. It really doesn't.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1004 on: November 30, 2008, 08:52:42 pm »
You didn't post it in this thread, where we normally talk about Aurelio. I didn't trawl through your posts, because I didn't see the point - I know you don't rate him. 

But now you've mentioned it I've just had a look now at your post history and I can't see where you have given him any praise since we last discussed him. So after two very good games where he got two assists you said nothing, not one remark, not one bit of praise, or even "I don't rate him but fair enough he has been playing well and that was a lovely assist today". So it looks like you didn't say he played well and you're a liar, as well as a poor judge of a player.

Injuries have no bearing on the quality of a player - the example of Torres this season proves that, or Ronaldo, one of the best strikers the world has ever seen, who has been plagued by recurring injuries his whole career.

Thanks for re-reading all my posts, hopefully you were able to absorb something. I honestly thought i had given him credit, must have been on another forum.

when he provides his annual Assist next season i'll be sure to come on here and give him credit.

you well know my arguement on aurelios ability is not just down to his injury record. thats only secondary to his poor ability to defend, lack of drive, barely there contributions on an attacking sense and overall in-ability.

Once again i will state there isnt a team in the top half of the PL who would play aurelio. and if there is i would like to hear who the team is and whose place he would take.

btw, i take offense to that poor judge of player thing you said.
If you look back through my posts(and you have) you will see the list of players who i rated as sub-liverpool standard: cisse, zenden, sissoko, krompkamp, djimi cant really remember anymore off the top of my head but im sure you can dig it up for me!
 
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1005 on: December 1, 2008, 12:18:59 pm »
when he provides his annual Assist next season i'll be sure to come on here and give him credit.
See, it's things like this that let you down. Two assists in his last two games.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1006 on: December 2, 2008, 12:03:40 am »
Thanks for re-reading all my posts, hopefully you were able to absorb something. I honestly thought i had given him credit, must have been on another forum.

when he provides his annual Assist next season i'll be sure to come on here and give him credit.

you well know my arguement on aurelios ability is not just down to his injury record. thats only secondary to his poor ability to defend, lack of drive, barely there contributions on an attacking sense and overall in-ability.


Once again i will state there isnt a team in the top half of the PL who would play aurelio. and if there is i would like to hear who the team is and whose place he would take.

Two assists in two games on the bounce. Clean sheets aplenty.

Please, for the love of God, stop embarassing yourself.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1007 on: December 2, 2008, 01:12:27 am »
Thanks for re-reading all my posts, hopefully you were able to absorb something. I honestly thought i had given him credit, must have been on another forum.

when he provides his annual Assist next season i'll be sure to come on here and give him credit.

you well know my arguement on aurelios ability is not just down to his injury record. thats only secondary to his poor ability to defend, lack of drive, barely there contributions on an attacking sense and overall in-ability.

Once again i will state there isnt a team in the top half of the PL who would play aurelio. and if there is i would like to hear who the team is and whose place he would take.

btw, i take offense to that poor judge of player thing you said.
If you look back through my posts(and you have) you will see the list of players who i rated as sub-liverpool standard: cisse, zenden, sissoko, krompkamp, djimi cant really remember anymore off the top of my head but im sure you can dig it up for me!
 

Mate that is bullshit
Ok top 4 no - but now lets look:

Villa: Luke Young - Take Aurelio
Hull: Higginbotham - Take Aurelio
Everton: Baines - Take Aurelio this season
Portsmouth: Belhadj - Take him
Bolton: Samuel - Take Aurelio
Fulham: Koncheskey - Take Aurelio

Point proven - you talk shite

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1008 on: December 2, 2008, 12:25:44 pm »
Mate that is bullshit
Ok top 4 no - but now lets look:

Villa: Luke Young - Take Aurelio
Hull: Higginbotham - Take Aurelio
Everton: Baines - Take Aurelio this season
Portsmouth: Belhadj - Take him
Bolton: Samuel - Take Aurelio
Fulham: Koncheskey - Take Aurelio

Point proven - you talk shite

just talked to my mate who supports bolton, he was asking who aurelio was in the first place. You find actual fans of those teams and ask them.......

Two assists in two games on the bounce. Clean sheets aplenty.

Please, for the love of God, stop embarassing yourself.
whop de do.... two assists. Bruno Cheyrou had more of an impact - and you obviously did not get the point of my post. the fact that you are championing him because he has 2 assists shows the straws that you are clutching at.....

Dossena even out shone him last night. showing a willingness to get forward. id love to see a stat on how many crosses dossena got into the box last night compared to how many aurelio got in against fulham.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1009 on: December 2, 2008, 12:52:15 pm »
would you 2 stop arguing like a pair of girls....

Lets end it now and admit that aurelio will either be amazing or absoloute turd!

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1010 on: December 2, 2008, 12:58:15 pm »
WHY SELL RIISE! He was immense for years!
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1011 on: December 2, 2008, 01:15:20 pm »

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1012 on: December 2, 2008, 01:16:49 pm »
just talked to my mate who supports bolton, he was asking who aurelio was in the first place. You find actual fans of those teams and ask them.......

 :lmao

Well there you go then. Conclusive proof!

whop de do.... two assists. Bruno Cheyrou had more of an impact - and you obviously did not get the point of my post. the fact that you are championing him because he has 2 assists shows the straws that you are clutching at.....

Dossena even out shone him last night. showing a willingness to get forward. id love to see a stat on how many crosses dossena got into the box last night compared to how many aurelio got in against fulham.

You obviously did not get the point of my post - your assertion that he gets one assist a year was wrong. I am championing him after a run of great performances including assists AND clean sheets. Aurelio puts great crosses in all the time - but sadly just like Dossena's last night nobody gets on the end of them.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1013 on: December 2, 2008, 01:41:02 pm »
Seeing a specialist in Spain today. For an apparent non serious two week problem one has to ask why.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1014 on: December 2, 2008, 01:49:14 pm »
Seeing a specialist in Spain today. For an apparent non serious two week problem one has to ask why.

It's recurring, so maybe they're trying to get it fixed properly?

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1015 on: December 13, 2008, 11:24:27 pm »
Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1016 on: December 13, 2008, 11:41:21 pm »
Fabio should be back no?

"Journalist: There is a suggestion that Aurelio has been training?
 
He is running now but he's not available for today's game. "

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1017 on: December 13, 2008, 11:43:55 pm »
Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.

Amen to that.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1018 on: December 14, 2008, 01:08:24 am »
Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.  Please be fit for the Arsenal game.
I hope he is not. Incredibly overrated. Much prefer Dossena and Insua, and Arbeloa as well at Left-Back. Walcott will overrun him.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1019 on: December 14, 2008, 01:14:05 am »
I hope he is not. Incredibly overrated. Much prefer Dossena and Insua, and Arbeloa as well at Left-Back. Walcott will overrun him.
I doubt very much that Walcott will overrun him.  For one Walcott is shit, secondly he's out for several months with a shoulder injury.  Fabio is easily the best left back at the club and to even suggest that Dossena is currently preferable is laughable.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1020 on: December 14, 2008, 01:18:53 am »
Fabio is easily the best left back at the club.
Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1021 on: December 14, 2008, 01:19:45 am »
I hope he is not. Incredibly overrated. Much prefer Dossena and Insua, and Arbeloa as well at Left-Back. Walcott will overrun him.

do some research before firstlt joining RAWK and secondly posting stupid posts about an injured player over running one of our full backs. dossena better? if so give me 4 performances you think have been better then aurelios since he joined? think before posting!
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1022 on: December 14, 2008, 01:21:06 am »
Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

He wont be here after this season. Fact.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1023 on: December 14, 2008, 01:22:35 am »
Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1024 on: December 14, 2008, 01:26:27 am »
Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

He wont be here after this season. Fact.

You can argue about Insua but at the moment although injury prone, Aurelio is miles ahead of Dossena when it comes to defending.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1025 on: December 14, 2008, 01:27:28 am »
You can argue about Insua but at the moment although injury prone, Aurelio is miles ahead of Dossena when it comes to defending.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1026 on: December 14, 2008, 01:30:43 am »
Aurelio is miles ahead of Dossena when it comes to defending.
Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1027 on: December 14, 2008, 01:32:19 am »
our left side looks the part when aurelio links up with reira, aurelio is clearly our best left back imo.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1028 on: December 14, 2008, 01:32:24 am »
Fabio has put in consistantly good performances for us inbetween his injuries, I'd go as far to say if he could have kept himself fit he'd have been one of the top 3 left backs in the league.  Unfortunately he's made of cardboard.  He's solid defensively, one of our most composed players on the ball and capable of providing assists and the occasional goal here or there.

You can argue about Insua...
Not really, Aurelio is twice the left back Insua is at the moment.  (Hopefully Insua has the potential to be even better than Fabio).
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1029 on: December 14, 2008, 01:34:04 am »
Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.
 

out of curiosity, what games give you this impression? i can think of two games he has attacked well, but sure give me your point of view
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1030 on: December 14, 2008, 01:34:11 am »
Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.

a left back who cant defend is about as much use as a chocolate teapot.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1031 on: December 14, 2008, 01:37:20 am »
That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio.
Is he?  A couple of decent crosses in the last couple of games does not mean he's better going forward.  In the last 4 seasons Dossena has 3 assists....Aurelio has 3 already this season alone.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1032 on: December 14, 2008, 01:46:44 am »
Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.

Dossena's more attacking minded but you can't say that Aurelio exactly hugs the lefthand corner down beside Pepe all game either. He does his 1-2's with Riera/Babel, sets them off and supports them and he can cross a good ball, it's just a pity there aren't many targets in the box.

My argument is that when the attack breaks down and there's a counter-attack, Aurelio manages to get back, doesn't allow himself to get beaten by the opponent either. Dossena so far manages to get beaten on the turn and doesn't seem to have the game intelligence of marking that the rest of the back 4 have.

His game could improve if he's given more chances but I'd rather stick with a rather good defensive LB who can keep Boswinga and Wayne Rooney under his control pretty much for all 90 minutes especially for Arsenal next week.

Not really, Aurelio is twice the left back Insua is at the moment.  (Hopefully Insua has the potential to be even better than Fabio).

I would say Insua close though Art, I think a couple more appearances this season and he could be a regular on the bench by next season.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1033 on: December 14, 2008, 01:50:08 am »
Dossena is better going forward than he is defending, but better than Aurelio? Why? Because of a couple of crosses? I've seen Aurelio play left wing as if he was a top class winger. Let be it was a while ago, but we're making Dossena's crosses sound like they're some of the best we've ever seen in the game.

Aurelio has decent delivery too and he can get past his man. IMO Aurelio is better than Dossena in defence AND in attack. Aurelio's only disadvantage is that he's injured a lot.

I haven't given up on Dossena, but let's be honest, so far he's not shown that he's worth anywhere near the money we paid for him. I'd have Riise back in a direct swap if it was offered. No doubt about it. I'd play Aurelio ahead of Dossena. I'd play Insua ahead of Dossena. I'd play Arbeloa ahead of Dossena. Unfortunately, we haven't got another option at RB, so that's a no go for now.

Yet from my point of view, we have spent 7M on a player who is 4th pick for his only position and he's no improvement on the one he replaced. We should question that deal. Let's support him and let's not give up on him just yet, but the signs are not good.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1034 on: December 14, 2008, 01:53:11 am »
Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

He wont be here after this season. Fact.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1035 on: December 14, 2008, 11:45:37 am »
I hope he is not. Incredibly overrated. Much prefer Dossena and Insua, and Arbeloa as well at Left-Back. Walcott will overrun him.

Laughable. Insua and Dossena are both better than him. Arbeloa could do a better job than him even if played out of position, and I'd even go as far as to include Kuyt if he is played left back. Fucking hell - Threlfalls better than him!

He wont be here after this season. Fact.

Fucking hell that's a whole lot of nonsense in one post two posts

Aurelio is our best left back. He's had a cracking season, and we've not looked as solid defensively since he got injured.

Err... FACT.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1036 on: December 14, 2008, 11:50:01 am »
Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.

Biggest load of cock I've ever read and that takes some beating on here.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1037 on: December 14, 2008, 05:59:46 pm »
I hope he is not. Incredibly overrated. Much prefer Dossena and Insua, and Arbeloa as well at Left-Back. Walcott will overrun him.

You are taking the piss, surely You must be. Either that or you are incredibly clueless. I have loved Riera and Fabio when they've Linked Up. Can't say the same for Dossena and Insua is nowhere near ready, it seems.

Arbeloa is a right back at the end of the day so that is an irrelevant comparison.
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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1038 on: December 14, 2008, 06:35:32 pm »
Dossena even out shone him last night. showing a willingness to get forward. id love to see a stat on how many crosses dossena got into the box last night compared to how many aurelio got in against fulham.

Did i say defending? NO. I said left-back as a whole. That involves going forward as well - Dossena is much better attacking than Aurelio. What Dossena may not have in defence he makes up for by going forward. Think before you post.


Surely there couldn't be two different people in this world silly enough to actually believe this? Dossena.... Pfft.

Come back for Arsenal Fabio, we need you.

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Re: Fabio Aurelio
« Reply #1039 on: December 14, 2008, 06:48:56 pm »

Surely there couldn't be two different people in this world silly enough to actually believe this? Dossena.... Pfft.

Come back for Arsenal Fabio, we need you.

Well, Azer is as stubborn as the night is long and I actually consider him a joke, now, if he still believes the piddle he is typing up. Red Brian, well, he should think before he posts also. Surely stating that a defender cannot defend is a very, very silly thing to say? It is, after all, their job, first and foremost. Being an attacking threat is a bonus, not a necessity.
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