Author Topic: Pro Evolution Soccer Series (Read 50710 times)

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #120 on:** December 6, 2017, 03:38:30 pm »

I never bought it this year because I thought the demo felt too much like FIFA, could just sprint through defences. Seems the opposite is true for the final version, such a shame I do miss playing footy games. Saying that, stuck PES2017 on a few weeks back with my mate and had a blast on it, brilliant game.

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #121 on:** December 6, 2017, 11:14:22 pm »

It’s just practice in fairness. I find superstar is pretty straightforward. Just beat Porto 7-0, beat United 3-0, got six wins and three draws in 9 league games. Only loss in my first 14 games is to Barce in the CL which is realistic enough.

Try Legend difficult

I can’t play a master league on it, best I’ve done is two or three wins in my first 10 games.

wadey-LFC · « **Reply #122 on:** December 7, 2017, 05:48:56 pm »

Havent bothered with Master league after everybody basically saying its shite, shame because I enjoyed 17s. Need a win in my last game on myclub to be promoted to division 2. Dont seem to get as many blackballs this year aswel.

wadey-LFC · « **Reply #123 on:** December 13, 2017, 12:06:21 am »

Sick of lag cheaters on this game now, dont understand why you can't report it and they ban people who constantly do it.

S · « **Reply #124 on:** February 23, 2018, 05:44:48 pm »

How does this compare to last years game then? It's on sale so considering picking it up. Will mainly be playing Master League.

GiorgosCarraGoonies · « **Reply #125 on:** February 23, 2018, 05:47:25 pm »

Quote from: S on February 23, 2018, 05:44:48 pm

How does this compare to last years game then? It's on sale so considering picking it up. Will mainly be playing Master League.

It's good to play although online is touch and go, sometimes can't find an opponent on MyClub

S · « **Reply #126 on:** February 23, 2018, 05:51:12 pm »

Quote from: GiorgosCarraGoonies on February 23, 2018, 05:47:25 pm

It's good to play although online is touch and go, sometimes can't find an opponent on MyClub

Yeah that's okay, I won't really be playing online. I loved the gameplay last year, my only complaint was Master League scripting. There were ridiculous handicaps which meant I regularly beat teams like Barcelona 5-0 and then struggled against dross.

Down to £15. I was hoping it would reach the absurd price of £7 from last year but apparently not.

wadey-LFC · « **Reply #127 on:** February 26, 2018, 02:07:35 am »

Theres alot of potential in the game for it to be great, really gets let down by Konami though. Just too much bullshit going on to enjoy it for too long.

Golden_Child · « **Reply #128 on:** May 23, 2018, 03:28:56 pm »

Just smacked Southampton 4-0 on master league first season.

Hattrick and an own goal. Hattrick scorer for LFC - Marcus Rashford

Reckon he'd be boss for us in real life tbf

KOP1975 · « **Reply #129 on:** May 31, 2018, 10:06:51 am »

This game was awful.

PES died after PES6

wampa1 · « **Reply #130 on:** May 31, 2018, 07:36:30 pm »

Quote from: KOP1975 on May 31, 2018, 10:06:51 am

PES died after PES6

Ryde-On · « **Reply #131 on:** June 2, 2018, 05:30:04 pm »

Quote from: KOP1975 on May 31, 2018, 10:06:51 am

This game was awful.

PES died after PES6

Nope. Plays the best game of football out there.

KOP1975 · « **Reply #132 on:** June 7, 2018, 10:30:34 am »

I see theyve lost the CL and Europa licence to Fifa.
Also Dortmund ended their agreement early to jump to fifa.

Both games need a major overhaul imo - both are dead as single player games and its all about My team or FUT - ££££££.

KOP1975 · « **Reply #133 on:** June 7, 2018, 10:31:37 am »

Quote from: Ryde-On on June 2, 2018, 05:30:04 pm

Nope. Plays the best game of football out there.

Not for me.
No fouls
back heel pinpoint passing
no midfield
Poor AI
Keeper animations are still poor - still include some from ISS on SNES 25 years ago.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #134 on:** June 7, 2018, 11:22:13 am »

Quote from: KOP1975 on June 7, 2018, 10:30:34 am

Both games need a major overhaul imo - both are dead as single player games and its all about My team or FUT - ££££££.

This year has been the first time ever I've not bought a footy game. They're both shite.

KOP1975 · « **Reply #135 on:** June 7, 2018, 12:06:28 pm »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on June 7, 2018, 11:22:13 am

This year has been the first time ever I've not bought a footy game. They're both shite.

Agree
Both companies have a lot of work to do.
When you think how good PES 1-6 was im amazed the last few PES's have been so dire considering the power of a PS4/XBOX1X

Ryde-On · « **Reply #136 on:** June 8, 2018, 03:25:55 pm »

Quote from: KOP1975 on June 7, 2018, 10:31:37 am

Not for me.
No fouls
back heel pinpoint passing
no midfield
Poor AI
Keeper animations are still poor - still include some from ISS on SNES 25 years ago.

No midfield? That's the key part! It's also so much better than FIFA, in which you don't need much strategy at all...

Purple Red · « **Reply #137 on:** July 31, 2018, 06:30:55 pm »

Fucking boss this. Obsessed with it at the moment. Genuinely feels like the real thing especially when you make full use of the option files. Each match feels different depending on your tactics and how you decide to play. It's very challenging but fantastic fun too. Definitely the best I've ever played in the series.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #138 on:** August 3, 2018, 08:16:32 pm »

I’m recovering from surgery so have a few weeks off and basically bed bound, so been playing 2017 again, having never bought 2018.

It’s great, although not without it’s annoying idiosyncrasies. It’s defintiely too easy to build a great side in Master League and some of the players who pop up out of contract are ridiculous. Fun nonetheless and plays far, far superior to FIFA.

I may actually get 2019, although Master League is the only mode I really play. I’m not sure which PES it was where you started with the default players but a budget to immediately be able to sign a few players, like several decent cheap ones, loads of shit ones who were still better than the default, or one or two marquee players to rely on, all before you even entered the mode proper.

I may be imagining it but I vividly remember the names of those I used to rely on - Atiba Hutchinson, Jay Seilna, Loni, Diego, Park Ji Sung, Emile Mpenza etc. Beats playing that rock-hard nutter Dodo and the Olympic sprinter with eyesight issues, Castolo.

S · « **Reply #139 on:** August 3, 2018, 09:24:16 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on August 3, 2018, 08:16:32 pm

I’m recovering from surgery so have a few weeks off and basically bed bound, so been playing 2017 again, having never bought 2018.

It’s great, although not without it’s annoying idiosyncrasies. It’s defintiely too easy to build a great side in Master League and some of the players who pop up out of contract are ridiculous. Fun nonetheless and plays far, far superior to FIFA.

That was my main problem with an otherwise fairly solid game.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #140 on:** August 4, 2018, 01:04:44 pm »

Quote from: S on August 3, 2018, 09:24:16 pm

That was my main problem with an otherwise fairly solid game.

Yeah I thought it ridiculous that you could take on a poor Ligue 2 side with default Master League players for example and be signing players like Payet and Kenedy on free transfers within the first season/start of the second. A small gripe and I guess you can self-impose not to make ‘unrealistic’ signings, but when there’s low hanging fruit it’s difficult.

I remember on the old PES you used to be buzzing to sign someone who could merely
control a football competently 😂 Glory days when Iouga and Ximelez were no longer first choices. Minanda was also a favourite. Magic would happen when the ball was at his feet. Admittedly that didn’t happen often as he wasn’t a fan of moving about, but what lovely feet he did possess 😂

keano7 · « **Reply #141 on:** August 5, 2018, 07:43:55 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on August 4, 2018, 01:04:44 pm

Yeah I thought it ridiculous that you could take on a poor Ligue 2 side with default Master League players for example and be signing players like Payet and Kenedy on free transfers within the first season/start of the second. A small gripe and I guess you can self-impose not to make ‘unrealistic’ signings, but when there’s low hanging fruit it’s difficult.

I remember on the old PES you used to be buzzing to sign someone who could merely
control a football competently 😂 Glory days when Iouga and Ximelez were no longer first choices. Minanda was also a favourite. Magic would happen when the ball was at his feet. Admittedly that didn’t happen often as he wasn’t a fan of moving about, but what lovely feet he did possess 😂

Minanda was like Xavi and Iniesta combined. He had his faults but my word what a player. Miss those days!,

wampa1 · « **Reply #142 on:** August 5, 2018, 08:01:07 pm »

Quote from: Drinks Sangria on August 3, 2018, 08:16:32 pm

Fun nonetheless and plays far, far superior to FIFA.

I'm a sucker for the licences so I'll be getting FIFA but would get PES in a heartbeat if they went to town with create options. Bring back create-a-stadium, allow us to upload ANYTHING from faces to boots to balls to even adboards and scoreboards.

The best fun I've had with a football game as a Legends patch for PES6. Let us create that without the need to 'hack' the game and I'd never buy FIFA again.

Drinks Sangria · « **Reply #143 on:** August 6, 2018, 01:16:34 am »

Quote from: wampa1 on August 5, 2018, 08:01:07 pm

I'm a sucker for the licences so I'll be getting FIFA but would get PES in a heartbeat if they went to town with create options. Bring back create-a-stadium, allow us to upload ANYTHING from faces to boots to balls to even adboards and scoreboards.

The best fun I've had with a football game as a Legends patch for PES6. Let us create that without the need to 'hack' the game and I'd never buy FIFA again.

I do get you, I like a good license and it does come across as shoddy when you’re playing on the lower divisions on PES and can’t really decipher who the other team is meant to be. I like playing lower league football so often am tempted by FIFA for that particular reason. A fully licensed PES would be a dream.

They’ve lost the UEFA competitions but got some fairly decent licenses this year. Liverpool and Arsenal are there, both the Milan clubs too. Russian League, Argentinian League, Swiss, Belgian, Danish are all fully realised this time too. Doesn’t really make up for losing the Spanish and Italian licenses though, in my eyes.

It’ll likely be fun nonetheless.

Quote from: keano7 on August 5, 2018, 07:43:55 pm

Minanda was like Xavi and Iniesta combined. He had his faults but my word what a player. Miss those days!,

A great player

Tbe one who would infuriate me was Ivarov in goal. The amount of needless, pathetic goals you’d concede due to his lack of basic competency was painful. When building a side in the old PES’s, the first three signings you absolutely had to make were a striker, goal keeper and wide player. You could sort of mumble by for a time with the defence you were given.

redan · « **Reply #144 on:** August 6, 2018, 10:40:17 am »

I didn't buy 2018 as i was still really into 2017 when it came out but I'm really looking forward 2019!

I am ashamed to say i brought FIFA 18 a few months ago when it was £15 on PS Store and they released the WC add-on but the novelty wore off after about a week and i haven't gone back since. Whilst I still play Pro Evo 17 from time to time, I need a new game,

Whilst originally i was a little gutted about the UEFA License, what they've done to compensate has more than made up for it. This game will have so much more depth now having add 8 entirely new, licensed leagues will give more longevity compared with just having two Competitions. Yes they're not the Premier League or Bundesliga but Pro Evo has never been about that and it's nothing a quick option file doesn't fix anyway. The annoying thing was always them having the Official License but having fake teams and league competing in it. Now with these leagues the roster is huge!

One thing i do agree with, is the ridiculous transfer system in ML. As well as the 'Youth System'. Yes it's my choice to promote these players but it's far too tempting. I'm in my 4th season with Preston North End and my team is below

(Regenerated) Buffon

(RG) Dani Alves (RG) Barzalgi Rugani Mario Rui

(RG) Thiago Motta Kante

Lo Celso

Bale Gabriel Jesus
Vietto

Jesse Pinkman · « **Reply #145 on:** August 8, 2018, 05:23:59 pm »

The demo is up on PS4. We are in it. Salah had been deservedly upgraded to 90. You can play online in the demo, which is a bonus.

This is very promising.. Its how a football game should play. Passes can and will go loose, ball physics have improved. Gone are the laser guides through balls. Try it out lads, this has the makings of a proper footy game.

Konami have a tendency to fuck it up post demo but if it stays like this, I'm buying it.

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Upinsmoke · « **Reply #146 on:** August 8, 2018, 06:04:58 pm »

Gonna download it soon. For me they need to change the menu's, too clunky and dated.

I was dissapointed in the lack of updates last year from the community, the only way to get them quickly was to sign up to Pes Universe and get the membership which is complete horse shit. I mean other people do there own option files but there's usually a few mistakes in there.

Anyhow I'll give it a go.

jackh · « **Reply #147 on:** August 8, 2018, 11:20:59 pm »

Quote from: Jesse Pinkman on August 8, 2018, 05:23:59 pm

The demo is up on PS4. We are in it. Salah had been deservedly upgraded to 90. You can play online in the demo, which is a bonus.

This is very promising.. Its how a football game should play. Passes can and will go loose, ball physics have improved. Gone are the laser guides through balls. Try it out lads, this has the makings of a proper footy game.

Konami have a tendency to fuck it up post demo but if it stays like this, I'm buying it.

They've been right on track with Pro Evo for a few years now (3?), but on first impressions this seems particularly good - really impressed after a quick go on the demo.

Quote from: Upinsmoke on August 8, 2018, 06:04:58 pm

Gonna download it soon. For me they need to change the menu's, too clunky and dated.

I was dissapointed in the lack of updates last year from the community, the only way to get them quickly was to sign up to Pes Universe and get the membership which is complete horse shit. I mean other people do there own option files but there's usually a few mistakes in there.

Anyhow I'll give it a go.

I thought this too, despite not really wanting much more than all the teams who exist in the game bringing to life. Thatsaid, I also always though it a bit poor that Konami didn't do a 'near fake' of all the teams reaching the UEFA competitions proper, despite badging the game with their licenses.

Some other lingering frustrations are the baffling removal of Community Mode some 6/7 years ago now, which really added a lot to 'local' multiplayer. I also find it frustrating the the online matches are restricted to 15 (is it?) minutes, when 20 is surely the best way to play

Anyhow, I've somehow managed to turn a positive post negative here...

Devon Red · « **Reply #148 on:** August 9, 2018, 09:22:24 am »

Anyone else got the PC demo of 2019? I'm finding it runs like crap, even on low settings. Very juddery and terrible frame rate. I'm playing on an i5 and 960 so should have no problem running it.

EDIT - actually, just checked frame rates and they are solid 60, but every second or two there is a stutter. It's like lag, but I'm playing offline. Weird.

S · « **Reply #149 on:** August 9, 2018, 01:10:38 pm »

Quote from: jackh on August 8, 2018, 11:20:59 pm

Some other lingering frustrations are the baffling removal of Community Mode some 6/7 years ago now, which really added a lot to 'local' multiplayer. I also find it frustrating the the online matches are restricted to 15 (is it?) minutes, when 20 is surely the best way to play

Community was brilliant. Never made any sense to me to get rid of a feature which takes up almost zero space. It essentially just gathered statistics on games you played, which was such a great idea for local multiplayer.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #150 on:** August 10, 2018, 10:41:04 am »

Played a few matches last night and it’s not bad actually. I did what I call the ‘sprint test’ where you take the best players (Salah, Messi etc.) and just try and sprint through the whole team, was very difficult!

Did it last year in the demo and it was too similar to FIFA so never bought it in the end.

Now the only thing stopping me getting this game is the efficiency of the option files. I used the PES Universe ones for 2017 and they were excellent. But due to errors with kits when setting up, Konami updates etc. I think I repeated the process 4 or 5 times and I can’t be arsed doing that again. If it’s just a one off spend an hour and import all the kits/leagues I might get this when it comes out. Gameplay is good though really enjoyed the few matches I played yesterday.

ArthurDooley82 · « **Reply #151 on:** August 10, 2018, 10:58:02 am »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on August 10, 2018, 10:41:04 am

Played a few matches last night and it’s not bad actually. I did what I call the ‘sprint test’ where you take the best players (Salah, Messi etc.) and just try and sprint through the whole team, was very difficult! Did it last year in the demo and it was too similar to FIFA so never bought it in the end.

Now the only thing stopping me getting this game is the efficiency of the option files. I used the PES Universe ones for 2017 and they were excellent. But due to errors with kits when setting up, Konami updates etc. I think I repeated the process 4 or 5 times and I can’t be arsed doing that again. If it’s just a one off spend an hour and import all the kits/leagues I might get this when it comes out. Gameplay is good though really enjoyed the few matches I played yesterday.

I used the pes option files from pes universe last year and it literally took 10 mins and never had any problems when the was a update.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #152 on:** August 10, 2018, 12:33:43 pm »

Quote from: ArthurDooley82 on August 10, 2018, 10:58:02 am

I used the pes option files from pes universe last year and it literally took 10 mins and never had any problems when the was a update.

Fair enough, Konami have probably improved importing option files since 2017.

Upinsmoke · « **Reply #153 on:** August 10, 2018, 05:38:02 pm »

Quote from: ArthurDooley82 on August 10, 2018, 10:58:02 am

I used the pes option files from pes universe last year and it literally took 10 mins and never had any problems when the was a update.

So you paid for the updates or just waited for the bronze release?

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #154 on:** August 10, 2018, 07:39:38 pm »

It's good, the demo. Fairly enjoyable and fun.

We'll see how it holds up in the release, though. Superstar level needs to be rock solid too. The demo doesn't give you much time to know how the game will play for an extended period, but early impressions of it are very good. Still think shooting needs a bit refining for individuals, mind.

RobinHood · « **Reply #155 on:** August 10, 2018, 08:03:56 pm »

Quote from: Devon Red on August 9, 2018, 09:22:24 am

Anyone else got the PC demo of 2019? I'm finding it runs like crap, even on low settings. Very juddery and terrible frame rate. I'm playing on an i5 and 960 so should have no problem running it.

EDIT - actually, just checked frame rates and they are solid 60, but every second or two there is a stutter. It's like lag, but I'm playing offline. Weird.

Same here, had it with 2018, the only way I could fix it was to set my monitor to 60hz.

ArthurDooley82 · « **Reply #156 on:** August 13, 2018, 07:06:11 pm »

Quote from: Upinsmoke on August 10, 2018, 05:38:02 pm

So you paid for the updates or just waited for the bronze release?

I just paid £10 for a usb stick from pes universe as I didn’t have a pc or laptop to download the files myself onto a usb stick.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #157 on:** August 18, 2018, 03:56:21 pm »

I've been finding myself with that 'itch' of wanting to play more and more of the demo. Each time is different. I don't think I've ever played a football game that feels as free or as organic as this. It doesn't feel as if you're being cheated, or like the ball does something that you know it shouldn't. The ball is completely independent to the way it reacts when it comes off players, and players react to that accordingly. It just feels right. Like for the first time in as long as I can remember playing the series right. Seriously, the gameplay is just so, so good. The passing is amazing. I now feel like I've to get the ball onto the players proper foot and put the correct amount of weight on it and then what happens next is down to how good that player is at passing it. Exactly how it should be. Shooting might need a tweak, but other than that, I'm struggling to fault the game. I say this after giving 18 a miss. Hopefully Konami don't do a Konami and fuck with the formula here before it releases, because it's a good'un.

Learpholl · « **Reply #158 on:** August 20, 2018, 01:16:25 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on August 18, 2018, 03:56:21 pm

I've been finding myself with that 'itch' of wanting to play more and more of the demo. Each time is different. I don't think I've ever played a football game that feels as free or as organic as this. It doesn't feel as if you're being cheated, or like the ball does something that you know it shouldn't. The ball is completely independent to the way it reacts when it comes off players, and players react to that accordingly. It just feels right. Like for the first time in as long as I can remember playing the series right. Seriously, the gameplay is just so, so good. The passing is amazing. I now feel like I've to get the ball onto the players proper foot and put the correct amount of weight on it and then what happens next is down to how good that player is at passing it. Exactly how it should be. Shooting might need a tweak, but other than that, I'm struggling to fault the game. I say this after giving 18 a miss. Hopefully Konami don't do a Konami and fuck with the formula here before it releases, because it's a good'un.

I've been a Pro Ev man for a long, long time and after seeing the features FIFA might have this season I was tempted to switch but I love the demo so far too. Very fun and I'm surprisingly good at it (or all the people I play online are not, which is more likely).

Jesse Pinkman · « **Reply #159 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:46:13 am »

Quote from: Learpholl on August 20, 2018, 01:16:25 pm

I've been a Pro Ev man for a long, long time and after seeing the features FIFA might have this season I was tempted to switch but I love the demo so far too. Very fun and I'm surprisingly good at it (or all the people I play online are not, which is more likely).

It's more of a 'thinking man's game' now, I think. You can't spam through-ball all the time. You have to work hard to make angles and create overloads... and tactics matter! My only gripe is they show you what tactic the opponent is using at kickoff. Some opponents leave their pacy strikers/widemen up top (using 'Counter Target') and there was a sense of achievement figuring stuff out and adjusting accordingly. Now, it tells me Mbappe and Dembele are told not to track back and makes it way too easy to counter. I'd rather figure it out myself.

I find there are many ways to win on this... I love to set up deep, men behind the ball and break with pace. Liverpool are perfect for that! You can set Hendo to 'Defensive' on advanced tactic, meaning he will sit and sweep like a proper 6. I reckon Palace will be a good team in the full game. Can't wait to sit deep like the Owl and hit teams on the break!