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Re: International Watch
« Reply #480 on: November 20, 2019, 10:25:55 am »
We'd have to transfer Estonia and Belarus to the Premier League.
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Re: International Watch
« Reply #481 on: November 20, 2019, 12:00:43 pm »
I'm sure one of them could easily masquerade as the blueshite.

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Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #482 on: October 4, 2020, 04:01:55 pm »
Salzburg have announced they won’t be releasing players for internationals due to having 3 positive COVID tests in the squad. Should we not be doing the same as we’ve had atleast 2 positive tests( that we know of) ?

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #483 on: October 4, 2020, 04:08:18 pm »
It's a farce having internationals friendlies during this but I'm not sure many of our players would agree to missing out.

I would be surprised if there weren't some coronavirus cases post-international break but generally people are kept in tight bubbles and tested fairly regularly. The only exception are when Foden and Greenwood try and meet girls in their hotel room or whatever which could risk the entire two squads if they're somehow infected and there's enough time.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #484 on: October 4, 2020, 04:08:47 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #485 on: October 4, 2020, 04:18:01 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.

Forever. International football is shit and England is for racists.

But covid would be a nice excuse.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #486 on: October 4, 2020, 04:26:22 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.
Completely agree. International games are always tedious affairs anyway but to have them in the midst of a second wave of COVID and have players flying around the world and mixing with players from several different clubs is insane.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #487 on: October 4, 2020, 04:30:11 pm »
Where do clubs stand in terms of being able to play those players, usually UEFA/FIFA ban them from playing for their clubs for a period if they don’t go on international duty don’t they?

And yes International football at the moment is complete madness as I’ve mentioned elsewhere 
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #488 on: October 4, 2020, 04:33:39 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.

I hate internationals anyway and would love them to be canned., however, the knock on effect could be the cancellation of the CL and Europa too.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #489 on: October 4, 2020, 04:37:02 pm »
An International friendly behind closed doors....how fuckin appealing is that!

Absolute zero interest in international footy at the best of times but to hold them now is a joke.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #490 on: October 4, 2020, 04:38:04 pm »
Where do clubs stand in terms of being able to play those players, usually UEFA/FIFA ban them from playing for their clubs for a period if they don’t go on international duty don’t they?

And yes International football at the moment is complete madness as I’ve mentioned elsewhere 

10 days after international window I think

Talk is they can refuse this time if players have to quarantine on return.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #491 on: October 4, 2020, 04:38:58 pm »
Salzburg have announced they won’t be releasing players for internationals due to having 3 positive COVID tests in the squad. Should we not be doing the same as we’ve had atleast 2 positive tests( that we know of) ?
I don't know what we are going to do, but Salzburg have at least set a precedent I expect more teams to follow them. I would be happy if we would follow and I would be happier if every other team would follow because this is bullshit

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #492 on: October 4, 2020, 05:42:26 pm »
I don't know what we are going to do, but Salzburg have at least set a precedent I expect more teams to follow them. I would be happy if we would follow and I would be happier if every other team would follow because this is bullshit
It truly is. People have compared it to European club football , however I disagree with that as it’s still only players from two clubs involved . Internationals could easily include players from around 20 or so clubs.
Complete madness.
I really hope more clubs start withholding players.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #493 on: October 4, 2020, 06:17:44 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.

The continent wide Euros should have been cancelled rather than rearranged.

Then there's the catch up they're playing because of this Qatar World Cup which is going to further fuck up the schedule for the next few years.

UEFA going ahead with the utterly pointless Nations League took the biscuit.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #494 on: October 4, 2020, 06:21:49 pm »
International football should be binned off for the foreseeable. Simple as that.

This. Makes zero sense during a global pandemic with wildly different standards and infection rates all over the place.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #495 on: October 4, 2020, 06:57:24 pm »
This. Makes zero sense during a global pandemic with wildly different standards and infection rates all over the place.

Euros, Copa America and AFCON can all be cancelled if needed (all were this year, albeit they've tried to reschedule them but can be cancelled again and might have to be). Issue is the World Cup in Qatar which is worth too much for FIFA - and by the time of late 2022 things should be more back to normal - and they've got to fit all the qualifiers in somehow.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #496 on: October 4, 2020, 09:15:18 pm »
Cancel their travel plans. Straight to Melwood for 9am tomorrow.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #497 on: October 4, 2020, 09:16:36 pm »
Cancel their travel plans. Straight to Melwood for 9am tomorrow.

Fuck that, I'd take them straight there.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #498 on: October 4, 2020, 09:16:37 pm »
Cancel their travel plans. Straight to Melwood for 9am tomorrow.


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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #499 on: October 6, 2020, 11:44:51 am »
In my opinion, all non-domestic competition should be off for the foreseeable. Of course, this would never happen - especially the postponement of the Champions League - due to the money involved. I say this even though I love the Champions League as a competition and watch as much as I can of many of the games.

We should not be exposing the players to anything outside of their 'bubbles' to such an extent.

If the CL has to go ahead, modify the format to be more like the back end of last season and have teams involved all in isolation in the same location prior to games. Of course there is the issue of the calendar actually allowing this.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #500 on: October 6, 2020, 12:11:59 pm »
Salzburg have announced they won’t be releasing players for internationals due to having 3 positive COVID tests in the squad. Should we not be doing the same as we’ve had atleast 2 positive tests( that we know of) ?

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #501 on: October 6, 2020, 12:20:10 pm »
All it takes is for a few players to come back with positive results and the next round of league fixtures could be in jeopardy. I would love to hear the big wigs explain their reasoning as to why players are travelling across the globe for meaningless International fixtures during a pandemic. Just as you thought the likes of Fifa couldnt outdo themselves in terms of stupidity they go and remind us just why they are a corrupt and useless organisation.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #502 on: October 6, 2020, 12:30:12 pm »
It's an utter joke that internationals are going ahead. Some of them friendlies and that's if you are classing the nations league as competitive, if you don't they are all friendlies.

How many players in an international squad? 24. So potentially an international team could have 24 players from 24 different clubs in 24 different countries travelling internationally to another different country to face another international team which hypothetically could also have 24 players from 24 different clubs in 24 different countries.

When you think of the number of interactions there just between the players and the staff of 2 International teams and that's without taking into consideration the interactions of 24 players from 24 different clubs in 24 different countries up to 5 days prior to travelling. 24 players who up to 5 days prior would have had interactions with a whole club squad, staff, family and friends, family and friends of each club player and staff member, in a different country and that's just 1 player in 1 international squad.

Atleast the Champions League there is club bubble protection.


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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #503 on: October 6, 2020, 12:41:11 pm »
Internationals are even more pointless than before. The fact that they're still on, tells you how much UEFA/FIFA give a fck

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #504 on: October 6, 2020, 01:09:35 pm »
The club are often a soft touch. Always have been. Put the players first ffs
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #505 on: October 6, 2020, 01:16:45 pm »
Stupid international football, it’s absolutely shite. All about making the FAs more money.

I reckon a lot more players might have been ill last week

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #506 on: October 6, 2020, 03:54:37 pm »
I think Klopp said he would only have 2 days with the players once they return from international duty before the Everton match which isn't great.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #507 on: October 6, 2020, 04:00:21 pm »
It’s genuinely the most laughable thing I’ve ever known in football to be having an international break at this point.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #508 on: October 6, 2020, 04:00:22 pm »
I think Klopp said he would only have 2 days with the players once they return from international duty before the Everton match which isn't great.

We always seem to have Everton right after international breaks. Then they stick it at lunchtime to make it even worse.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #509 on: October 6, 2020, 04:02:46 pm »
There is a global pandemic currently ravaging the world with case numbers having increased from where they were just a couple of weeks ago. And they still insist these internationals to go ahead. It's like something out of the Trump administration.

This will have consequences. It's going to hit some club very hard. Not necessarily in the Premier League, but it'll happen.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #510 on: October 6, 2020, 04:16:58 pm »
I know it's not the case for English players, but playing for their national team is a huge deal for many players. It's bigger than club football, and their performances for their country is what defines their career back home.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #511 on: October 6, 2020, 04:17:34 pm »
It’s genuinely the most laughable thing I’ve ever known in football to be having an international break at this point.

To be fair, there are play offs which need to be played but the other games are a fucking nonsense.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #512 on: October 6, 2020, 04:19:45 pm »
We always seem to have Everton right after international breaks. Then they stick it at lunchtime to make it even worse.

Yep, or after a lockdown as with last season. That game is going to be shite to watch again, as both sides will have had about a day to prepare.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #513 on: October 6, 2020, 04:19:59 pm »
I am no fan of international footy generally, or England more specifically, but I get that many are around the world. However, given current events and the fact that the domestic season has only just started up again, it is absolute madness for players to be going off all over the place. The PL need to take action to stop it. You can`t have individual clubs imposing a ban on their players at that potentially puts the player in a difficult position. It needs to be a league wide thing. Use the 2 weeks as a break if you want, but internationals - nah
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #514 on: October 6, 2020, 04:21:34 pm »
It’s genuinely the most laughable thing I’ve ever known in football to be having an international break at this point.

Yep, it's fucking idiotic.

Who thought that sending players who are in a club bubble on planes all over the world to stay in close proximity with 20+ other players and countless more staff members, and then return back to their clubs, is a fucking idiot.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #515 on: October 6, 2020, 04:23:51 pm »
In the current climate, I think it's madness having international games taking place.

I loathe international football anyway and dread our players going away and getting injured. That's bad enough, but the way things are currently, I think international football should be on hold for the foreseeable future. We have enough players down with covid as it stands.

Whoever decided that international breaks were a good idea seriously needs to look long and hard at themselves.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #516 on: October 6, 2020, 04:39:53 pm »
In the current climate, I think it's madness having international games taking place.

I loathe international football anyway and dread our players going away and getting injured. That's bad enough, but the way things are currently, I think international football should be on hold for the foreseeable future. We have enough players down with covid as it stands.

Whoever decided that international breaks were a good idea seriously needs to look long and hard at themselves.
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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #517 on: October 6, 2020, 08:52:11 pm »
The trouble with most of you lot is that you live in England  ;)

International football is great if it's not all focussed around the England team. I even like the Nations League - so much better than qualifying tournaments for World Cup or Euro Champs as teams only play against teams about their own level. During the last international break I watched a high quality game each day, including one where Portugal took Croatia apart, and I watched Portugal's left-sided attacker and wondered if he might just be a good player for Liverpool to buy...

But leaving aside for a moment the merits of international games at all, the better question is about playing them in a Covid world. I'd imagine the top countries will have good bubble policies (although doesn't prevent idiots like Foden and Greenwood) and will only have players from clubs that have lots of testing. Where it gets trickier is when our players have to mix with players who don't get lots of testing - Robbo with Scotland perhaps, or Williams and Wilson for Wales. Tsimikas came down with it last time, didn't he?

It really would have been smarter to have no international breaks this season, and then end the season in about mid-April and play all the internationals then. The only trouble would be if the domestic season then got delayed for Covid. I guess UEFA will have TV contracts they're legally obliged to meet too.

No easy answers that would make everyone happy. Really, I'd have preferred for Jurgen to be able to get our lads on the training ground after Sunday's game, but he always knew that wouldn't be possible. I suppose the best we can hope for is that all our lot come home uninfected and with Villa completely out of their system.

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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #518 on: October 6, 2020, 09:04:56 pm »
There's plenty of us who don't live in England and think that international matches are a waste of time. I'm one of them. Especially now in the midst of a pandemic.


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Re: Releasing players for internationals.
« Reply #519 on: October 6, 2020, 09:21:11 pm »
To be fair, there are play offs which need to be played but the other games are a fucking nonsense.

The worst international break ever was September. Called so the absolutely useless Nations League could go ahead in the middle of a pandemic.

I can understand 'why the show must go on' now because they're already well behind on World Cup qualifiers, so if you stop the qualifiers you might as well stop the World Cup and FIFA exists on its World Cup money. Same reason why the Premier League is going ahead and the Champions League is going ahead. None of it should be really, but financial realities take precedent. Nations Leagues, EFL trophies and Carabao Cups going ahead is just being ridiculous though.
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