Topic: General Manchester City thread

[kaesarsosei]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

[Schmidt]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

The bitterness at that club runs from top to bottom, I'd put his comments in the same bucket as those "the league is more important than the CL" shouts of theirs from last season.

[MJD-L4]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

He's just trying to one-up us and give his squad a boost that's all. He's an excellent CB but obviously not on the same level as our Virg. Let them have their "Best CB" claims. We'll just have the best team...

To be fair to Pep though, what's he supposed to say? "Yeah Aymeric is good but VVD pisses all over him doesn't he?"

[redk84]

Think he's trying to overplay how good Laporte is to give an excuse for how bad their results have been in comparison to previous seasons. Try and recapture some of that fear the opposition had before a ball is kicked so that they dont drive at City's soft underbelly and expose them

As opposed to trying to compare him to VVD

[slaphead]

He's just trying to one-up us and give his squad a boost that's all. He's an excellent CB but obviously not on the same level as our Virg. Let them have their "Best CB" claims. We'll just have the best team...

To be fair to Pep though, what's he supposed to say? "Yeah Aymeric is good but VVD pisses all over him doesn't he?"

And the best CB, and right back, and left back, and midfield, and front 3, and manager,  oh and fans 

[Dim Glas]

You do realise you’ve sparked about four pages of discussion about some ‘hacking’ nonsense which was sorted seven years ago by trying to ‘strip it of any power’?

And it’s not just you, it’s anyone who is obsessed with going on Bluemoon or GOT or redcafe and bringing that shite back here and infesting threads with it. If it’s something genuinely funny then fair enough, but invariably it’s not. It’s normally something about corruption, or deals with the devil, or Heysel, or how over rated we are, or how there must be some deep seated reason we’re so good. The ‘ridiculing it to strip it of any power’ is nonsense. Whatever these lunatics write exist in a forum that you’re then spreading. ‘Look how they’re reacting to Pickford last night’ is pretty funny. ‘Look at this detailed post about some conspiracy theory about hacking’ not so much.

You wouldn’t go out of your way to go and step in dog shit and then tread it through your own house so everyone can get a whiff.

spot and indeed on 

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

[Dull Tools]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

Its one of those where someone gets better through absence when your team is struggling.

It has happened to us with lots of players over the years.

[El Lobo]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

Don’t think you can really compare the two teams in terms of positional importance like that. We’ve got better depth at CB and they have better depth in attack. He’s definitely one of their more important players.

But fuck it, they screwed themselves. He tried being a smart arse bringing in Rodri for mega bucks to replace Fernandinho so he could then use Fernandinho at CB like he has with other DMs. That was his Kompany replacement. It just hasn’t worked.

[thaddeus]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

It's a classic case of a player getting better each day they're unavailable.  We had it recently with Sturridge and going further back Redknapp was always going to be the answer to our midfield problems if only he could get a run of games.

When they edged us 2-1 at the Etihad last season they had Laporte playing at left-back with Kompany and Stones as the central defensive pairing.  Effectively the title decider and Pep picked the "world's best central defender" at left-back!

Anyway, now Man City have their full squad to choose from (I'm not counting Sane as he would be playing for Bayern now but for Pep bizarrely picking him in the Charity Shield) we can all sit back and marvel as they win the rest of their games this season.  Surely?!

[Romford_Red]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

[reddebs]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

Wow mate them's cold, hard facts your talking about there, don't you realise everything connected with the blue mancs having a bad season is about conspiracies.

The ONLY reason they aren't topping the league is due to the FA, PL, UEFA, FIFA, ISAF, WADA, NASA and every other worldwide organisation that's in on the LET LIVERPOOL WIN campaign.

[kaesarsosei]

No question Laporte is good. He and VVD are clearly the two names you would pick in an all-PL team. I still think an extended-run Gomez is challenging Laporte for that spot - like if Gomez keeps his place until the end of this season and keeps his current form, that's enough for me to say we have the two best in the league.

I hope we as fans never become complacent about how good VVD is though. After watching him for a year I had no hesitation saying he's the best in the world, and best to play for Liverpool I've seen (I'm mid-40's so remember Hansen/Lawro).

Ironically, the only other CB who has played in the PL that I can compare to him is Jaap Stam. Unless something mad happens, then by the end of this season with our current defensive record and the PL in the bag, it will be easy to say VVD is the best CB in the history of the PL.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

You wouldn’t go out of your way to go and step in dog shit and then tread it through your own house so everyone can get a whiff.

Great analogy 

[Bobbyf9kungfu]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

Who cares? He can say foden is better than Messi if he wants everyone knows the truth

[12C]

Don't understand how Laporte is back from an ACL after less than 5 months, but after his first game back Pep has claimed he is the best left-sided CB in the world.

Honestly, what do we think is the motivation for someone like Pep to make a statement like that? It can't be any form of mind-games since the league has long-gone. He's clearly not stupid. But there isn't a single aspect of play where Laporte is better than VVD. VVD is quicker, bigger, better in the air, better on the ball, more imposing to be up against, a better leader, scores more.

I would honestly have enjoyed an argument about who is better between Laporte and Gomez - thats a much fairer comparison.

Pep is the petulant kid in your class. He is the only child who has the latest toys. Of course his Action Man is better than anyone else’s because his has gripping hands. Laporte didn’t improve their defence that much. Fernandinho still had to foul about 4 people before being finally booked. Otamendi is a liability and Walker just runs up and down. Agüero is keeping them in it at the moment because Sterling looks like he is still fretting about Gomez. The whole outfit looked shit until Agüero added a bit of class. Even KDB was struggling to impose himself.
He is a great coach but does have some very childish moments when he can’t buy his own way. He nearly upset the Sheffield bench last night with a tantrum until he realised Wilder was harder than him. His tantrum against Wigan, Wigan ffs, and of course his meltdowns against us.

He is going to find it hard to replace Agüero, Silva, and Fernandinho, as he hasn’t replaced Kompany yet.

[lobsterboy]

Wow mate them's cold, hard facts your talking about there, don't you realise everything connected with the blue mancs having a bad season is about conspiracies.

The ONLY reason they aren't topping the league is due to the FA, PL, UEFA, FIFA, ISAF, WADA, NASA and every other worldwide organisation that's in on the LET LIVERPOOL WIN campaign.

and so much hacking its like Mr Robot..

[Scottymuser]

The Laporte wankathon is so annoying. He's a good player, but as I've said before, he is their Gomez/Matip. The reason they've declined this season isn't because he's been injured, it's because they didn't replace Kompany (their Van Dijk).

What most people forget is that Laporte didn't join them until January 2018, so he was missing for 6 months of their record breaking 100 point season. They also performed worse in terms of PPG after he signed.

the problem with using that logic is Kompany himself wasn't ever first choice last season (in the sense of starting most matches) due to his age; and it seems unfair to judge a player new to a league, coming in Jan, on the first 4 months of his spell in the country.  Laporte is a way, way better CB than him nowadays for my money - Last season Laporte played over 3000 mins, Stones 2nd choice with 1800ish, and then both Ottamendi AND Kompany joint 3rd with about 1200.  And even the season before Ottamendi played almost 3000 mins as 1st choice, and Stones and Kompany both had about the same number, being rotated between them.  Laporte then came in towards the end of the season, and started 9 of the 14 matches - Kompany himself only started 8, most of them *with* Laporte

For my money, Laporte is easily in the top 3-5 CBs in the league, with my personal thoughts is he is currently #2 marginally ahead of Gomez (but that will change if Gomez can stay fit till the end of the season maybe - it is only Gomez's 10+ months of the past 12 being injured keeping him at #3 for now).  It's just VVD is *that* much better, it seems a crazy boast

[PoetryInMotion]

You do realise you’ve sparked about four pages of discussion about some ‘hacking’ nonsense which was sorted seven years ago by trying to ‘strip it of any power’?

And it’s not just you, it’s anyone who is obsessed with going on Bluemoon or GOT or redcafe and bringing that shite back here and infesting threads with it. If it’s something genuinely funny then fair enough, but invariably it’s not. It’s normally something about corruption, or deals with the devil, or Heysel, or how over rated we are, or how there must be some deep seated reason we’re so good. The ‘ridiculing it to strip it of any power’ is nonsense. Whatever these lunatics write exist in a forum that you’re then spreading. ‘Look how they’re reacting to Pickford last night’ is pretty funny. ‘Look at this detailed post about some conspiracy theory about hacking’ not so much.

You wouldn’t go out of your way to go and step in dog shit and then tread it through your own house so everyone can get a whiff.

Spot on.

[MolbyLovesGravlax]

City's problem this season is not injuries. It is their player's mentality. Every time they drop points they bounce back, win a few on the trot, hand out a pasting or two and then the players relax again and drop points against a motivated team.
The moment to me when I really began thinking this was finally going to be the year wasn't after a Liverpool match, it was after a City one, and not when they dropped points, but when the celebrated beating Burnley away in the dressing room after the match.
That is exactly the wrong mentality, they thought they were on for an unbeaten 20 game streak or something because they bounced back from a prior game and beat Burnley. As soon as they relax they trip up, done it multiple times this season.
Compare that to us.

[Dim Glas]

Why are you all having a go at me for having a laugh?

I like it here and don't mean any harm

Don't think anyone thinks you do Tone!

The point is I think, that bringing over Manchester City fans angry and often libelous conspiracies accusing Liverpool of cheating or of getting help from the FA with VAR etc etc is doing exactly what they want to happen - giving publicity and airtime to their mad ramblings.

The last thing a Liverpool fan would surely want to do is help the nutters achieve what they are trying to achieve.   

[rodderzzz]

It’s more hilarious that you think posting on this forum is giving them any sort of reach publicly other than the poster on this forun

[Samie]

RAWK has huge, huge, HUGE reach mate. We've got people in the government and everything.

[rebel23]

RAWK has huge, huge, HUGE reach mate. We've got people in the government and everything.

Civil servants?  I'd rather they read RAWK than watch porn I guess.

[El Lobo]

It’s more hilarious that you think posting on this forum is giving them any sort of reach publicly other than the poster on this forun

Oh no doubt, but it does give it to the one audience that they actually care about (us). Just let them smolder over there in the corner on their own.

[Dim Glas]

It’s more hilarious that you think posting on this forum is giving them any sort of reach publicly other than the poster on this forun

 'publicity' is likely the wrong word, but I couldn't think of the right one, so apologies.

but RAWK isnt a closed forum.  It's ridiculously popular, not just with Liverpool fans, there's a massive number of non registered users who must spend half their lives on here the amount of stuff that gets regurgitated eleswhere from RAWK!

I'm all for reading the daft tweets and nonsense some of them come out with, be it Evertonians or Mancs.  The stuff about Liverpool cheating, nah, pathetic to spread it, and even odder to be ok with having it infect here. But whatever rocks your boat.

[Son of Spion]

'publicity' is likely the wrong word, but I couldn't think of the right one, so apologies.

but RAWK isnt a closed forum.  It's ridiculously popular, not just with Liverpool fans, there's a massive number of non registered users who must spend half their lives on here the amount of stuff that gets regurgitated eleswhere from RAWK!

I'm all for reading the daft tweets and nonsense some of them come out with, be it Evertonians or Mancs.  The stuff about Liverpool cheating, nah, pathetic to spread it, and even odder to be ok with having it infect here. But whatever rocks your boat.

It's funny that. A few times I've spotted things written in the Echo and thought they'd been on here, read our stuff then basically tweaked it then put it on their website as their own.

I think all sorts of media trawl through places like this for angles and rumour.

A few days back this 'long ball' nonsense narrative popped up. A few on here commented on how 60 yard, pinpoint accurate crossfield balls to feet are a lot different to Wimbledonesque hoofing and hoping someone can run onto the end of it. Also how Liverpool are the most versatile and adaptable side in the league and can win in many ways and by quickly adapting tactics. Not long after, an article appeared on the Echo website highlighting all the same points. I'm not so sure it's a coincidence.  Stuff off here pops up all over the place.

[afc tukrish]

RAWK has huge, huge, HUGE reach mate. We've got people in the government and everything.

We deny Pickford membership to maintain that huge reach...

[Samie]

 

It's funny that. A few times I've spotted things written in the Echo and thought they'd been on here, read our stuff then basically tweaked it then put it on their website as their own.





That's not a surprise, mods say we've got nearly 40k registered users, never mind those who just view it as they can.

[MJD-L4]

FWIW I'm guilty of copying & pasting a few of their insane ramblings in the past. I find them amusing. If people are getting pissed off by it though, rather than laughing at them, I'll stop doing so going forward.

[davidlpool1982]

Civil servants?  I'd rather they read RAWK than watch porn I guess.

The porn gets me through the interminable "should have been a email" meetings. Don't touch it! (I hear that phrase a lot)

[Doc Red]

This thread was so much better when it was about the club, players, manager, current+past+future financial doping, etc.
Ever since it became a thread about trolling City supporters on another forum dedicated to their club, its gotten tedious, in my opinion.

No offense meant for anyone that shared posts from there, but it feels like we're talking more about their supporters than the club and the fact that we've got them, a club that's won back to back titles +domestic treble+most points in a season, firmly in our rear view mirror.

[Mighty Zeus]

This thread was so much better when it was about the club, players, manager, current+past+future financial doping, etc.
Ever since it became a thread about trolling City supporters on another forum dedicated to their club, its gotten tedious, in my opinion.

Speaking as the worst culprit of this just about, I totally agree

[Dim Glas]

It's funny that. A few times I've spotted things written in the Echo and thought they'd been on here, read our stuff then basically tweaked it then put it on their website as their own.

I think all sorts of media trawl through places like this for angles and rumour.

A few days back this 'long ball' nonsense narrative popped up. A few on here commented on how 60 yard, pinpoint accurate crossfield balls to feet are a lot different to Wimbledonesque hoofing and hoping someone can run onto the end of it. Also how Liverpool are the most versatile and adaptable side in the league and can win in many ways and by quickly adapting tactics. Not long after, an article appeared on the Echo website highlighting all the same points. I'm not so sure it's a coincidence.  Stuff off here pops up all over the place.

I wouldn't be surprised at all!

And for viewing figures, only need to go to the forum homepage here to see how many 'guests' are viewing the forum at any one time, it's not just one or two put it that way!  OK, I am presuming that may include bots, but regardless, there's a lot of lurking and reading going on by people who aren't actually members. 

But that;s actually pretty cool too, as I like that RAWK is open, unlike many forums.

Funny thing is, I am sure these copied posts from Blue Loon get more 'views' on here than they do on their actual forum.

[rob1966]

It’s more hilarious that you think posting on this forum is giving them any sort of reach publicly other than the poster on this forun

Have you forgotten about

It's funny that. A few times I've spotted things written in the Echo and thought they'd been on here, read our stuff then basically tweaked it then put it on their website as their own.

I think all sorts of media trawl through places like this for angles and rumour.

A few days back this 'long ball' nonsense narrative popped up. A few on here commented on how 60 yard, pinpoint accurate crossfield balls to feet are a lot different to Wimbledonesque hoofing and hoping someone can run onto the end of it. Also how Liverpool are the most versatile and adaptable side in the league and can win in many ways and by quickly adapting tactics. Not long after, an article appeared on the Echo website highlighting all the same points. I'm not so sure it's a coincidence.  Stuff off here pops up all over the place.

Loads from RAWK ends up on the media sites, I posted on here a few months ago when I saw a post on I think the BBC

[rebel23]

Have you forgotten about
Loads from RAWK ends up on the media sites, I posted on here a few months ago when I saw a post on I think the BBC

Most journos just use twitter these days.  There's very little on RAWK for them to copy..

[rodderzzz]

Yes it seems mightily impossible that a journalist for the 'local' paper who probably watches us most weeks couldn't have come up with the accurate description of our play and versatility without bob from Essex on Rawk explaining it him first! lol

[rob1966]

Most journos just use twitter these days.  There's very little on RAWK for them to copy..

If you want to regurgitate shite that any dickhead could come up with, copy twatter, if you want to sound like you know what you are talking about copy from RAWK 

[Kashinoda]

This thread was so much better when it was about the club, players, manager, current+past+future financial doping, etc.
Ever since it became a thread about trolling City supporters on another forum dedicated to their club, its gotten tedious, in my opinion.

No offense meant for anyone that shared posts from there, but it feels like we're talking more about their supporters than the club and the fact that we've got them, a club that's won back to back titles +domestic treble+most points in a season, firmly in our rear view mirror.

I don't think that's fair mate, this thread also contains people complaining that they don't like what people are posting. It's a right mix.

[Son of Spion]

Yes it seems mightily impossible that a journalist for the 'local' paper who probably watches us most weeks couldn't have come up with the accurate description of our play and versatility without bob from Essex on Rawk explaining it him first! lol

I think it's well know that sites like this get trawled. When you see stuff that seems almost lifted word for word you do wonder.